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Phantasm

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Very interesting that despite Elijah Miller stating multiple times on his Twitter that he's trans, Ana Valens overlooks this and refers to him with male pronouns. I guess showing a true and honest transwomyn committing crimes would be bad for the grift.
Doesn't that go against their usual policy for this sort of thing though they usually do this

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You truly do not hate vermintide/journos enough.
 

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"Yeah, f**k the normies, they don’t get it, we’re not all like this. I agree. But sponsors, businesses, academics, they’re all going to start asking, “What’s the deal with this VTubing thing anyway? Why is there so much controversy around it and politics?”"

Why Valens think that this is going to have such a great impact on Vtubing?. If some mass shooter was a fan of Marilyn Manson, no one will act like he supported this acts, and more importantly, the music scene will not be in danger, the fuck????

I think the problem with Valens is that, for some reason, she thinks people are going to judge ALL OF VTUBING because of some weirdo.

That is a reflection of this political operator belief of the "general vtuber community" that doesn't exist instead of understanding, like most people, that multiple subgroups exist separated from each other, and who common characteristic is using a virtual avatar and that is. What some subgroup does doesn't affect others.
 

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"Yeah, f**k the normies, they don’t get it, we’re not all like this. I agree. But sponsors, businesses, academics, they’re all going to start asking, “What’s the deal with this VTubing thing anyway? Why is there so much controversy around it and politics?”"

Why Valens think that this is going to have such a great impact on Vtubing?. If some mass shooter was a fan of Marilyn Manson, no one will act like he supported this acts, and more importantly, the music scene will not be in danger, the fuck????

I think the problem with Valens is that, for some reason, she thinks people are going to judge ALL OF VTUBING because of some weirdo.

That is a reflection of this political operator belief of the "general vtuber community" that doesn't exist instead of understanding, like most people, that multiple subgroups exist separated from each other, and who common characteristic is using a virtual avatar and that is. What some subgroup does doesn't affect others.
Its futile to question it, this has been his MO and deliberate attempt to elevate his petty squabbles and personal vendettas to affect more people than they should
 

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Very interesting that despite Elijah Miller stating multiple times on his Twitter that he's trans, Ana Valens overlooks this and refers to him with male pronouns. I guess showing a true and honest transwomyn committing crimes would be bad for the grift.
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Zero evidence, btw.

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Very interesting that despite Elijah Miller stating multiple times on his Twitter that he's trans, Ana Valens overlooks this and refers to him with male pronouns. I guess showing a true and honest transwomyn committing crimes would be bad for the grift.
Because when it doesnt fit the narrative, they are not trans. Had he been murdered by someone wearing a Maga hat then clearly they would've been portrayed as the strongest trans warrrior to lose the fight against trans-misogyny in Trump's America.
 

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"Yeah, f**k the normies, they don’t get it, we’re not all like this. I agree. But sponsors, businesses, academics, they’re all going to start asking, “What’s the deal with this VTubing thing anyway? Why is there so much controversy around it and politics?”"

Why Valens think that this is going to have such a great impact on Vtubing?. If some mass shooter was a fan of Marilyn Manson, no one will act like he supported this acts, and more importantly, the music scene will not be in danger, the fuck????

I think the problem with Valens is that, for some reason, she thinks people are going to judge ALL OF VTUBING because of some weirdo.

That is a reflection of this political operator belief of the "general vtuber community" that doesn't exist instead of understanding, like most people, that multiple subgroups exist separated from each other, and who common characteristic is using a virtual avatar and that is. What some subgroup does doesn't affect others.
i agree with you but thats not how media sensationalism works.

Wanna know how I know?

fan of Marilyn Manson, no one will act like he supported this acts,

Because that is literally why people were protesting his music

Why people were mad about "violence in video games" in other words mouthbreathing autists who want to ruin something for everyone else.
 

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If some mass shooter was a fan of Marilyn Manson, no one will act like he supported this acts, and more importantly, the music scene will not be in danger, the fuck????
If anyone is old enough to remember when the Columbine shooting happened, that's exactly what happened. Maybe not that he necessarily supported it, but his music and imagery were scapegoated as being a significant influence.

Now, did it have much of an impact on the music industry? No, it didn't. However, record labels have a lot more money and influence, especially back then. Not that I think that vtubing will be noticeably affected by this or anything, but it is certainly more vulnerable than the music industry was--and vtubers are ultimately beholden to the whims of the skittish platforms they stream on.
 
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Very interesting that despite Elijah Miller stating multiple times on his Twitter that he's trans, Ana Valens overlooks this and refers to him with male pronouns. I guess showing a true and honest transwomyn committing crimes would be bad for the grift.
A trans person not respecting another trans person's pronouns. It's almost as if Ana doesn't believe a man can become a woman.
 

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If anyone is old enough to remember when the Columbine shooting happened, that's exactly what happened. Maybe not that he necessarily supported it, but his music and imagery were scapegoated as being a significant influence.

Now, did it have much of an impact on the music industry? No, it didn't. However, record labels have a lot more money and influence, especially back then. Not that I think that vtubing will be noticeably affected by this or anything, but it is certainly more vulnerable than the music industry was--and vtubers are ultimately beholden to the whims of the skittish platforms they stream on.
Yup, I was 14 when Columbine happened and Drosselmeyer is right. Everything was put under the microscope after this. Marilyn Manson, Goth/Loose Clothes, violent video games like GTA, etc. It all got its turn to take the blame aside from anything else that could have actually done anything about the issue.
 

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"your mom and dad know what a vtuber is" yea cause for you, grooming fucking Yamanba buttplug fallguy bathtub hrt janny tranny """""journo""""" femboy, that is the worst thing to ever happen. For a parent to find out who YOU are.
 

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"your mom and dad know what a vtuber is" yea cause for you, grooming fucking Yamanba buttplug fallguy bathtub hrt janny tranny """""journo""""" femboy, that is the worst thing to ever happen. For a parent to find out who YOU are.
Funny you mention the parents part. Who this written for? 12 year olds who still have to answer to their parents?
 

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Funny you mention the parents part. Who this written for? 12 year olds who still have to answer to their parents?
What a coincidence, that's the same age as the kids Phil was playing Fall Guys with while using a vibrator.
 

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Funny you mention the parents part. Who this written for? 12 year olds who still have to answer to their parents?
What your guy's mom won't take away your car for a week if she finds out your watching vtubers again?
 
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"Guys, I don't hate Pippa! I respect her a lot!"


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What a fucking SNAKE. I've been waiting for him to try some shit like this.

Also, I like Armchair's tweet.
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"Guys, I don't hate Pippa! I respect her a lot!"


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What a fucking SNAKE. I've been waiting for him to try some shit like this.

Also, I like Armchair's tweet.
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Kuri appears to have posted about this, and it pissed off Ana and Saphera off so much they responded in minutes despite supposed blocks of Kuri's account -

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Edit: I also realized Kuri didn't QRT or @ them directly, so they were 100% ego searching or had Tweet alerts set up for Kuri.
 
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