The (Potential) MSM Talent Scandal

[Tubedude]

However, I will crisis Kabhaals statement that the "infantilization of myself and colleagues by others has been grossly insulting" given the sheer amount of YouTubers who have lost money in the manner alleged it is reasonable to be concerned, and it's not insulting to assume such even if he himself knows better.

While true, that could also be referring to how Krimbo is saying Seth is the source of all him and his butt-buddies bad rep, painting all the talents as sheep ready to believe anything Seth says.

 

[Nigel Nigerman]

RRAT TIME!!!

Someone from MSM got grifted by Seth and is all butthurt about it so that person decided to burn all that Seth holds dear. That person commissioned Krimbo to attack Seth and his company. It's kind of easy cos MSM is SHADY AF.

Still, this whole drama is pretty gay. All I know is this:
- MSM is shady AF
- Seth is shady AF according to Krimbo
- Krimbo is a degenerate piece of shit whose friends and close contacts are sus AF so I wouldn't trust whatever is coming out of his mouth
- False is a fäggot and am not surprised he is friends with Krimbo
- We will learn the truth soon enough but it won't be from Seth or Krimbo.

 

[shipmate_F]

Kabhaal is one of the few level-headed male chuubas, he's a super cool dude.
Krimbo did another stream pushing his narrative (and ego), Meat dropped a bomb in chat as well but I'm not 100% behind it:

I think addressing to the gayops is a huge mistake, but he probably felt compelled to because some talents are jumping ship: Kwite, Grape and today it was Lucy Pyre.
He lost F1nn5ter early this year but could do with others. If Aethel, Geega, BuffPup or another reasonable-sized creator leaves it might be it for MSM for a while, even if he is blameless. Slander really do work.

Edit: Bossman was found out on the boards

 

[x Hades Stamps]

- MSM is shady AF
- Seth is shady AF according to Krimbo
- Krimbo and his friends are shady AF
- False is shady AF

Fixed it (jk)

 

[The Peanut Gallery]

RRAT TIME!!!

Someone from MSM got grifted by Seth and is all butthurt about it so that person decided to burn all that Seth holds dear. That person commissioned Krimbo to attack Seth and his company. It's kind of easy cos MSM is SHADY AF.

Still, this whole drama is pretty gay. All I know is this:
- MSM is shady AF
- Seth is shady AF according to Krimbo
- Krimbo is a degenerate piece of shit whose friends and close contacts are sus AF so I wouldn't trust whatever is coming out of his mouth
- False is a fäggot and am not surprised he is friends with Krimbo
- We will learn the truth soon enough but it won't be from Seth or Krimbo.

The s I've seen on /vt/ point to Meat and to why 3am was formed and why Tobs is missing despite the 3am color scheme has five colors even though there are four members. Also this:

Kabhaal is one of the few level-headed male chuubas, he's a super cool dude.
Krimbo did another stream pushing his narrative (and ego), Meat dropped a bomb in chat as well but I'm not 100% behind it:

I think addressing to the gayops is a huge mistake, but he probably felt compelled to because some talents are jumping ship: Kwite, Grape and today it was Lucy Pyre.
He lost F1nn5ter early this year but could do with others. If Aethel, Geega, BuffPup or another reasonable-sized creator leaves it might be it for MSM for a while, even if he is blameless. Slander really do work.

I wanna see how this all plays out though cause before all this came up I was wondering why Kirsche never considered MSM as it seemed to be the exact thing she's looking for in a management.

 

[Paladin]

I will admitt something smells about Seth's statement, and im not sure if he's being honest even with my bias being towards him, given Krimbo is about as trustorworth as 2 week old gas station sushi. There are a lot of caveats in Seth's statement, and im led to believe that we are not being shown the full picture. Given their pay structure and the promises that the talents can leave at any time, I have a hard time believing they are safe in the black thought the lack of callouts by a talent for overdue funds does lead me to believe that, at the moment, there's no crushing monitory issue. I believe we will be given more answers about this over the coming days as the drama is still relatively new, and talents may be working on statements.

 

[Thomas Talus]

What needs to happen for this to have any legs is for Krimbo and/or the original poster to actually get specific about the allegations, particularly the tax stuff, with receipts, or else shuffle off in disgrace.

 

[21st Century Pipkin Man]

The thread before that post where Krimbo did a 4 hour stream slandering a lot of people and giving info halfway to distort the narrative in his group (Southside) favor was pretty interesting to read. I didn't watch the VOD but there's people that archived it, it might show up somewhere if you look up for it. It would be an interesting stream for you to do some work, Bossman.
Thread link: https://warosu.org/vt/thread/75985864

I was sniffing around and from my perception is that this is all gayops to make the "victims" look better.
TL;DR filipino fat simp is trying to make his prospects look good.

Here are temporary links. Make local copies if you want to have them available.
Krimbo's vod https://mega.nz/file/8aF3RQ6S#Q1ryh87Ap0rhZFnwn2RCLwwzvIrn6jTyhJeSi32B8B8
Fuululuu's vod https://mega.nz/file/1X9jgShL#zeAclwPddp3djl3geSyhIbxfLMQVXtMWpxk8CFb3WEs
Bonus (?): AI generated, fairly accurate subtitles for Fuululuu's 5h 30min vod if you want to ctrl-f through it for something specific https://mega.nz/file/0D9wyIgY#nsujDem-zkxI1zYU4ffFnSNdBIxEXKeEu6kqeAmVaKk
I think Coqui is doing her own stream on the situation today.

FYI, Discussing and keeping track of situations like these largely happens in groomcord instead of the forums now. It is what it is.

Spoiler: personal take

Everything I've seen makes Seth sounds like a slimy, manipulative person and I wouldn't trust him in any capacity. I really dislike Krimbo, but he actually freely admits to everything I view as his faults here before moving onto the actual subject. He also admits to having been on 4chan in the /trash/ days a lot, and making many friends there, as well as admitting it's not nearly as bad as people say or pretend it is. I think some MSM talents are afraid to speak out, and some benefit from being favored by Seth so they have no reason to. Fuululuu's account reinforces my view, she mentions Seth isolating people and blacklisting them starting at 2:04, and favoritism at 01:55. She mentions at 01:52 that she had no access to her MSM business email for a year

What needs to happen for this to have any legs is for Krimbo and/or the original poster to actually get specific about the allegations, particularly the tax stuff, with receipts, or else shuffle off in disgrace.

He mentions that the LLCs situation is due to them not paying taxes, and encourages people to report MSM to the IRS. This is an amusing level of flaggotry I've not encountered before.

 

[kanpainiggi]

Spoiler: personal take

Everything I've seen makes Seth sounds like a slimy, manipulative person and I wouldn't trust him in any capacity. I really dislike Krimbo, but he actually freely admits to everything I view as his faults here before moving onto the actual subject. He also admits to having been on 4chan in the /trash/ days a lot, and making many friends there, as well as admitting it's not nearly as bad as people say or pretend it is. I think some MSM talents are afraid to speak out, and some benefit from being favored by Seth so they have no reason to. Fuululuu's account reinforces my view, she mentions Seth isolating people and blacklisting them starting at 2:04, and favoritism at 01:55. She mentions at 01:52 that she had no access to her MSM business email for a year

Funny how the last time he brought up 4chan was in disgust cuz muh 4chan audience bad and going on it for porn

 

[The Proctor]

New development.



Just going to lazily crosspost my take on this from the Discord.



Edit: Legal Mindset is on the case.

 

[famous artist pipkun]

What needs to happen for this to have any legs is for Krimbo and/or the original poster to actually get specific about the allegations, particularly the tax stuff, with receipts, or else shuffle off in disgrace.

youre the law guy around here right? when the principles of an llc and/or incorp are the same for multiple entities the government usually treats them the same for criminal prosecution right?

 

[Thomas Talus]

youre the law guy around here right? when the principles of an llc and/or incorp are the same for multiple entities the government usually treats them the same for criminal prosecution right?

The ultimate lawyer answer: it depends. But when did we jump to questions of criminal wrongdoing, rather than civil?

 

[The Proctor]

Krimbo is a complete retard. He stated that he consulted lawyers before starting any of this stuff against MSN Talent, now he's in LM's twitter asking him incredibly basic questions that a free 30-minute meeting with a law student would answer almost immediately.

 

[famous artist pipkun]

Krimbo is a complete retard. He stated that he consulted lawyers before starting any of this stuff against MSN Talent, now he's in LM's twitter asking him incredibly basic questions that a free 30-minute meeting with a law student would answer almost immediately.

such as?

 

[Nigel Nigerman]

All involved in this shit, especially Krimbo should heed the advice of this video.

 

[dumdum did nothing wrong]

All involved in this shit, especially Krimbo should heed the advice of this video.

I miss Norm.