Phase Connect General

[Salado]

Gay Connect

 

[niggaphil]

Are people begging for Hololive talents to join Phase Connect for any other reason besides it being a big win for Phase Connect? Yeah, I have no doubt that Hololive talents are great idol performers, and Phase wants to do idolshit, but do the Hololive talents people are begging for have any sort of Phase Connect flavour to them? The only time we've had a Hololive collab is between Lia, Rie, Ollie (along with Flayon), and Ollie will collab with anyone. Other than that, the only interactions are extremely rare twitter interactions, so I'm not really seeing any chemistry between anyone in Hololive and Phase Connect.

If it ever happened, I'd be cheering as loud as anyone, I can tribalfag along with the rest of you. But right now this just looks like tribalfaggotry and numberfagging combined at the moment. Someone make a case for a specific ex-Hololive talent wanting to join besides "numbers numbers numbers."

The only possibility that i can think of is Raora x panko collab. But I am not sure Raora could handle Panko's racism

 

[RestlessRain]

The only possibility that i can think of is Raora x panko collab. But I am not sure Raora could handle Panko's racism

They're both Italian (black), so they get a pass.

 

[Hff201]

This will be very interesting to see. Very hot take coming in, but I feel like VShojo is just in a slow decay at this point. Melody has lost her monopoly on NSFW VTubing, Froot is nowhere to be seen and embroiled in drama, Kson has been utterly incapable of capturing the magic she had as Coco, Matara is out, and SURELY people will eventually get tired of watching a mediocre entertainer jiggle his fake anime titties around on stream as he continues to hide behind TTS and Zen will lose popularity. The only juggernauts I think they have left are Henya and Ironmouse. With Ironmouse constantly dragging normies into the scene and then picking up Amalee right as English VAs are starting to get a fraction of the hate they deserve, if someone is serious about becoming a rising star of VTubing I could definitely see them looking towards Phase over VShojo. It's imperative for their next gen to have some up and coming and actually new talent or else they'll continue to justify people calling them a retirement home.

I really think at this point Phase and VShojo are such radically different beasts it's unlikely prospective talents are deciding which to apply for based on their relative positions in the industry and are instead just looking at which company's culture appeals to them more, which is something you see reflected in the viewerbase as well. There's obviously some crossover, but for the most part I'd wage the average VShojo fan wouldn't care much for Phase's 4chan/kiwi "ick" while the average glorious Phasechad has little reason to care about VShojo's mainstream brand-friendly slop.

VShojo might not be as influential as it once was but it still has an appeal to a certain kind of chuuba, I just doubt it and Phase are dealing with the same applicant pool.

 

[Helkar]

Eimi is still streaming...

 

[Salado]

It's been more than 6 hours...

 

[RestlessRain]

It's been more than 6 hours...

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Sounds like she's just getting into her groove then, six-hour streams are not uncommon for the manic hamster.

 

[Helkar]

Sounds like she's just getting into her groove then, six-hour streams are not uncommon for the manic hamster.

Eimi streams are largely dependent on whether she finds a new obsession or not.
But yeah she actually held the numbers from other members' raids and is still streaming to 1k people.

 

[RestlessRain]

 

[Death by Dishonor]

It's been more than 6 hours...

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Eimi skipping basic necessities in favor of a batshit insane story? Say it ain't so.

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

I wouldn't be surprised if we get a phase jp invader next

Peo and "I Miss Peeba" for Phase JP invaders?

Phasebegging will continue until both Rosemi and Lisa are rescued.

Please no, both of these are cursed items, keep them away from Phase.

Jelly will absolutely get weirded out from being called senpai by these people.

I still think Remi is the weirdest one to get called senpai.

 

[Ｍｕｒｒａｙしないで]

The new talents are announced, but the phasebegging never stops, not even for a moment. There will be phasebeggars phasebegging even as the sun collapses in on itself.

As for the SO topic, I think there's a lot of reasons not to do it. I've gone into it before but I'll just bullet-point my thoughts this time.

• Talents will lose money if they do it. Yes, the money lost will mostly be from unhealthy parasocials and schizos who refuse to accept reality, but that can be a very significant amount of money sometimes, and most girls doing this at a serious level are doing it for the money.
• Also because talents will lose money if they do it, agency talents may be forbidden from doing so by their agency. I doubt anyone in PC (or Hololive or Niji or any of the Brave or Reality corpos or SVP or Ricorie or pretty much any other except for Vshojo) would be permitted to talk about it even if they wanted to.
• Indies not in such corpos might not want to do it either, as it may reduce their ability to enter such corpos, or if they do, schizos might harass them and their audiences about how she used to talk about her boyfriend.
• Remember that these girls are portraying anime characters and appealing to men. Please find me a popular male-oriented anime series or movie from the inception of the medium where the lead female characters were in a relationship, at least at the beginning. To a degree, female vtubers are "competing" with anime girls.
• It's just not done because of the traditions traced back to Japanese pop idols and groups and their management practices. You can say they're toxic and harmful but some people still really respect that stuff.

So while I don't personally care if the chuubas I'm watching are in a relationship, and I furthermore acknowledge that the odds are almost certain that they are, I don't think they should talk about it for the good of their career, and I don't think that's an inconsistent viewpoint to have.

 

[Salado]

Back reading suck. Did Lumi slip or am I reading everything wrong?

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

Gay Connect

Rinmama, I know you're not meant to appear on stream anymore, but just for Clio...?

 

[Death by Dishonor]

Back reading suck. Did Lumi slip or am I reading everything wrong?

You can start here and read the next 3 pages until the Invaders dropped. That's all there is.

If what was told on the Groomcord is correct, Lumi may have had a boyfriend yab today (the 30th). When she went to load a game in Oblivion, a save with a character named Oliver Tard was already there. EDIT: Actually, Oliver is Lumi's save file. The odd one out is the Fyren one. Sorry for mixing them up; I'm a bit of an Oliver Tard myself.

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Now things probably would have been fine if she said that that was her save from when she was testing the game before stream, especially since calling her "tard" is already a meme in her community, but instead apparently she tried to say the save file was due to Steam Family Sharing, but Steam does not share saves like that. (It might be that someone logged in to whatever Steam account she uses when streaming, played the game, and then made a cloud save which is being listed there, but that's not the same thing as Steam family sharing.) She's also privated or deleted the VOD for full Streisand Effecting of the incident (this is also why I'm just going by what people relayed in the Groomcord rather than checking for myself). It sure looks like she doesn't want us to know about Oliver Tard Fyren.

I know it's dumb for a 0view like me to be giving tips to 4view corpos, but just for the benefit of both the seasoned pros and my fellow nobodies, an important reminder: stream from a user account on your computer that is not used for anything else other than working under your streaming identity. Don't do anything under your IRL identity there, and certainly don't let others use it. Also, if you're using Steam, create a new Steam account for your streamer identity and use Family Sharing to share your games with that account, rather than using your personal Steam account (and don't let anyone else play anything under your streamer account). Most streamer yabs would be avoided if streamers just followed these basic principles, but none other than the almighty Mikeneko was laid low by not airgapping her streaming accounts like this (plus doing full screen video capture rather than window capture, another important step).

 

[Helkar]

Back reading suck. Did Lumi slip or am I reading everything wrong?

Lumi has accidentally loaded into a savefile with a character that has gone mini-viral on Reddit a few days prior(seriously what are the FUCKING odds) and belongs to a UK-based redditor dude obsessed with destiny2 and heavily invested in various media, but with zero interest in anime or vtubers(at least not on his reddit account).

If that is a boyfriend then this is a long-distance thing, which, uh, good luck with that.

 

[seenister]

MythicTalent is exclusively a partnership orgranization right? They don't actually offer management like Vtuber corpos? Is this why Mari went with Phase yet is still also under Mythic?

 

[Death by Dishonor]

MythicTalent is exclusively a partnership orgranization right? They don't actually offer management like Vtuber corpos?

Yes.

Is this why Mari went with Phase yet is still also under Mythic?

It is interesting how that is going to work. The funniest option is that all of Phase is going to make use of Mythic's network via Mari.

 

[Helkar]

Rie i'm not sure you can get *more* Chinese.

 

[God's Saddest Tattletail]

I really think at this point Phase and VShojo are such radically different beasts it's unlikely prospective talents are deciding which to apply for based on their relative positions in the industry and are instead just looking at which company's culture appeals to them more, which is something you see reflected in the viewerbase as well. There's obviously some crossover, but for the most part I'd wage the average VShojo fan wouldn't care much for Phase's 4chan/kiwi "ick" while the average glorious Phasechad has little reason to care about VShojo's mainstream brand-friendly slop.

VShojo might not be as influential as it once was but it still has an appeal to a certain kind of chuuba, I just doubt it and Phase are dealing with the same applicant pool.

This is a good point actually... there's probably very few people on the fence about which type of chuuba they prefer between Japanese idol inspired VTubers like Holo or Phase and Western eceleb inspired VTubers like VShojo and the big Twitch indies. I imagine the overlap among fans is close to 0 as well, so they'll just have to share the space until we can enact total Twitch whore death and send the wannabe ecelebs back to their flesh streams.

The new talents are announced, but the phasebegging never stops, not even for a moment. There will be phasebeggars phasebegging even as the sun collapses in on itself.

As for the SO topic, I think there's a lot of reasons not to do it. I've gone into it before but I'll just bullet-point my thoughts this time.

• Talents will lose money if they do it. Yes, the money lost will mostly be from unhealthy parasocials and schizos who refuse to accept reality, but that can be a very significant amount of money sometimes, and most girls doing this at a serious level are doing it for the money.
• Also because talents will lose money if they do it, agency talents may be forbidden from doing so by their agency. I doubt anyone in PC (or Hololive or Niji or any of the Brave or Reality corpos or SVP or Ricorie or pretty much any other except for Vshojo) would be permitted to talk about it even if they wanted to.
• Indies not in such corpos might not want to do it either, as it may reduce their ability to enter such corpos, or if they do, schizos might harass them and their audiences about how she used to talk about her boyfriend.
• Remember that these girls are portraying anime characters and appealing to men. Please find me a popular male-oriented anime series or movie from the inception of the medium where the lead female characters were in a relationship, at least at the beginning. To a degree, female vtubers are "competing" with anime girls.
• It's just not done because of the traditions traced back to Japanese pop idols and groups and their management practices. You can say they're toxic and harmful but some people still really respect that stuff.

So while I don't personally care if the chuubas I'm watching are in a relationship, and I furthermore acknowledge that the odds are almost certain that they are, I don't think they should talk about it for the good of their career, and I don't think that's an inconsistent viewpoint to have.

Yeah there's basically no incentive for a VTuber to loudly proclaim they're taken except to be honest and avoid possible yabs, which makes it refreshing when you come across one who is open about their relationship. Should it be like that? No, but it's just the world we live in. I think a lot of it goes back to the start of the VTubing bubble in the West in addition to just the Japanese idol culture you mentioned. Tons of people got into VTubers during Covid lockdowns when loneliness and isolation was running rampant through society, so parasocial internet relationships became more appealing. Not to mention if you were single it was basically impossible to go out and meet new people, so the last thing you'd want to be hearing about is how the cute anime girl you just found is in a happy relationship while you're stuck alone for who knows how long. In current year though I agree that it shouldn't matter* if a chuuba is in a relationship, but it's probably more sensible if they're not open about it.

*Big asterisk here is that it shouldn't matter as long as you're not catering to that kind of content. If you're doing GFE, encouraging parasocial behaviour, flirting with/grooming chat, playing up how you're alone and/or how you don't have relationship experience, etc, then I think secretly being in a relationship is not only a huge breach of trust but is also fairly morally repugnant since you're essentially preying on your audience. That's why my opinion of Shiina took a pretty big hit when I learned about the wonton incident, but my reaction to Lumi is "good for her, hope she's happy."