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Hololive General

Continuous Retardation

Ame Gosling
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 15, 2022
Unfortunately, all things come to an end. Most of the time it's not even the death of the thing you like so much, but just the ever changing nature of entertainment. You can clown on me for what I'm about to say, but man one of the worst experiences in entertainment I had in my young adult life was when I found out Assassin's Creed was going to an rpg format. That series had been my favorite franchise for almost a decade, and yeah Unity/Syndicate weren't great, but to full send in a new direction just felt like I was tossed off some wild ride and left behind. These days I am having to deal with my favorite Idol group announcing their final live concert as a group because all Idols graduate for one reason or another.

Hololive is kind of a combination of both feelings right now, at least when it comes to the older gens. They have this ambiguous new direction that some talents keep mentioning, but I genuinely can't tell the difference between now and 2 years ago so I'm not sure what is happening. I just know it is causing people I like to rethink their position. The idol group comparison is self-explanatory.

Back on the homeland I mentioned that you are meant to find new and enjoyable people to latch on to and that's why new gens are so important. As a company you don't want to have so many that there are too many to keep up with, but you can't rely on the old guard forever either. Advent and Justice are legitimately fantastic gens that are actively keeping me tethered to the brand itself. Don't get me wrong I still love Sora, Towa, Roboco, etc. as individuals, but if cover had missed on Advent and Justice as gens then I think there's a good chance I would not give a shit about Hololive as an overarching entity anymore, and instead I would enjoy those talents like I enjoy some Nijis and Phasekeks. Having overall cohesive gens that are more prone to doing company events together can still allow me to feel attached to the brand. It's getting harder for me, to be honest.
 

Kazuma

I do be doobing
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 10, 2022

Smelliest007

Emoom? Would.
Joined:  Feb 19, 2024
Posting this here.
:baeJam::baeJam::baeJam::baeJam:

I have a feeling the issue has to do with Investors. Some time ago there was an investor asking to cut further the talent's revenue so that the company could make more money.
@NeneLOVE What would it take to weaponize the OP?
 

tarkanoltr

Well-known member
Joined:  May 21, 2023

Shuba

MPP
Early Adopter
Gods Strongest Subatomo
Joined:  Oct 22, 2022
Posting this here.
:baeJam::baeJam::baeJam::baeJam:

I have a feeling the issue has to do with Investors. Some time ago there was an investor asking to cut further the talent's revenue so that the company could make more money.
I think the investors are also the reason why you goon on twitter instead of streaming.
 

Pencilfreak

OG Pomu fan and former nijisister
Joined:  Jan 23, 2024
I'm always a little confused about why they cry when a fellow streamer graduates. Like, are Mumei and Bae just never going to speak again after she leaves Hololive, or something?
It's much more than that, they won't be able to collab with each other, work with her, perform with her at concerts, discuss work, etcetera.
 

Superduper Samurai

Well-known member
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
I think the investors are also the reason why you goon on twitter instead of streaming.
Damn
You killed him harder than the Mumei IP after April 28th
 

PleaseCheckYourReceipts

Well-known member
Joined:  May 6, 2023
I'm always a little confused about why they cry when a fellow streamer graduates. Like, are Mumei and Bae just never going to speak again after she leaves Hololive, or something?

Edit: Well, I guess it'll be less likely that they'll see each other in person, with no more Cover-funded trips to Japan.

You might want to toss a message to see how your friends from school are doing. It's the same situation. Life moves in multiple directions.
 

USS IOWA

Well-known member
Joined:  Oct 22, 2022
It's much more than that, they won't be able to collab with each other, work with her, perform with her at concerts, discuss work, etcetera.
It's like being deployed and your battle buddy is being transferred out or going home.
 

Shuba

MPP
Early Adopter
Gods Strongest Subatomo
Joined:  Oct 22, 2022
She feels guilty about this

I thought I hated this

I didn't realize how much I fucking hate this

I absolutely fucking hate this
 

Jean Valjean

Brimming with salt
Joined:  Feb 22, 2023
Yeah, she's breaking down now, wondering if she did everything she could. It hurts to watch.
 

Latte'Ninba

May we never go to Hell but always be on our way
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 9, 2022
I'm always a little confused about why they cry when a fellow streamer graduates. Like, are Mumei and Bae just never going to speak again after she leaves Hololive, or something?
I mean you have to figure that these characters are the entire reason they end up knowing each other sometimes. You could probably argue it's an awkward type of death for their earliest memories and that your dynamic is now different. Despite being buddies in real life, you officially cannot talk to them about some stuff either now due to NDAs and such.
Personally I can see how it's a bit emotional in a way for them. It's like having your friend move, sure you can still talk online but it's not going to be quite the same as actually hanging out. The difference of course being that you can hang out, but you can't do it as a towl and rat on stream and goof off. You can talk about stuff you do but you're never going to be able to talk about that dumb thing you did as you both struggle to not laugh about it in front of people.

Edit: Bae's really dying on this one. Jesus.
 

NeneLOVE

The Chartrinator
Early Adopter
Nene's Pet Latinx
Latinx/Latine
Joined:  Sep 16, 2022
@NeneLOVE What would it take to weaponize the OP?
Nothing, I am probably gonna follow JJ's suggestion and keep the rrat repellent as a threadmark I can add evidence to periodically, defending Holo feels like a waste of my fucking time and each time of one of these goes down I feel like an asshole and a retard. I rarely spell out my misgivings because everyone already has and I'm not one to preach to the choir but FUCK whoever is responsible for this shit. I did not sign up to feel like trash.
 

BioBreak

You gonna eat that?
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 14, 2022

Cubanodun

Rrat Dissolver
Joined:  Jul 22, 2023
I'm always a little confused about why they cry when a fellow streamer graduates. Like, are Mumei and Bae just never going to speak again after she leaves Hololive, or something?

Edit: Well, I guess it'll be less likely that they'll see each other in person, with no more Cover-funded trips to Japan.
They survived the audition process, were friends for years and now she is leaving, that shit affect anyone, there is a reason they are deployed on groups of 5
 

PleaseCheckYourReceipts

Well-known member
Joined:  May 6, 2023
Major changes come with emotional stressors. I somehow catch Haachama live when she completely broke down about Coco leaving. You need to get the emotions out, and streaming is very much the emotional outlet for most of them.

Be strong, rat.
 

TKN_Lurker

Revived Lurker
Joined:  Dec 19, 2023
I need to step away man. Bae crying just made whatever I felt even worse than before. It really did hurt her not being able to stop something that wasn't even her fault. I'm sure she did everything she could.
 

Some Guy Who Reads

Well-known member
Joined:  Jan 8, 2024
You know what, fuck the glass, just give me the damn bottle, I hate hearing Bae heartbroken I hate it I hate it I hate it why
 

Sankisei

HOLOLIVE SAIKYO
Joined:  Feb 23, 2023
I'm always a little confused about why they cry when a fellow streamer graduates. Like, are Mumei and Bae just never going to speak again after she leaves Hololive, or something?

Edit: Well, I guess it'll be less likely that they'll see each other in person, with no more Cover-funded trips to Japan.
No but Bae says she feels guilty about this graduation and thats problaby why she is crying
 

Smelliest007

Emoom? Would.
Joined:  Feb 19, 2024
You know what, fuck the glass, just give me the damn bottle, I hate hearing Bae heartbroken I hate it I hate it I hate it why
Because she's more baseline emotionally fragile and you can easily tell. I'm glad I'm not watching.
 

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