General Vtuber Discussion (V1)

[braindoko]

There's plenty of dark skinned vtubers that don't get this type of harassment because they don't behave in a way that incites strife. This guy is not one of them with his loud victim complex and getting offended for other people.
There's even a general that archives them https://rentry.org/darkskinvtubers

Has anyone here ever actually worked with vtuber-related 3D or 2D modelling/rigging? I keep hearing Kirsche talk about how overpriced it is, and other people say that it's really hard. I've dabbled in 3D modelling repeatedly over the years, but due to terminal ADHD I always lose interest because I've never actually had anything worth doing with the skills.

If somebody here knows any good tutorials on the software involved and ways to get started, I'd be open to adding it to the Workshop as a dedicated thread.

I'm working on my own 2D and 3D and maybe it's me being stingy but it sure is overpriced going the "official" route. I've seen artists just starting to learn Live2D asking for thousands for models more stiff than a paper doll. 3D prices makes a little more sense if it's a wholly unique render with rigging but again for someone just starting streaming having to drop thousands on a model might be a turn off.
My solution was to commission the 2D art as a single layer drawing, separate the parts myself and then send the layere file to a rigger. I'm saving hundreds just by doing that not to mention the wait is much shorter.
As for 3D some Fiverr artists have much lower prices than twitter ones if you can temper your expectations. I might learn a bit of Blender to fix minor details and add more stuff to the model without having to pay again.

 

[El Rrata]

I'm gonna miss out on my chance to Smash IRyS...She'll be Smashing with a bunch of fans but I'll be at work...

Edit: Unless it does turn into an actual endurance stream, but I don't think she'll be that bad, right?

Ain't no way this doesn't last 8 hours unless some people really, really suck or people let her win.

Also, I guess it is gonna be April 34th before we get the Namirin stream if she is gonna be doing stuff like this which will fuck her voice up lol

 

[Limkin]

Saha Kyuri from AuroraLiveVR, chinese vtubing company has gone indie and rebranded as Neko Chiyo. https://thevirtualasylum.com/threads/general-vtuber-discussion.1/post-65963 another member from a company did the same recently. After googling, they fired their EN managers, put chinese ones instead, which lead to members quitting en masse. https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYou...apis_umina_had_her_debut_in_december_of_last/ thread about another member quitting. Their representative replied in the thread, alleging that company hired more people than they could manage, EN managers weren't properly doing their job and had to be replaced, "everything was done with agreement from both sides pls stop asking questions", and for some reason while defending himself decided to bring Rin from idolcorp into it with "instead of asking questions you should watch her shorts to find why I am not going to answer them". He also had some weird bits about having NSFW units within a company (I've never heard about them before and have no idea if it's like EIEN or anything) with, judging by context, allegations being thrown (in now deleted by mods comment) that members were forced to participate in such activities after a management replacement even if they weren't part of it.
The interesting part however, is Saha was able to secure rights for all of her social media accounts, YT channel and past work (covers). They are wiped out to a clean slate but all the followers and subs are there so she isn't starting from a complete zero. It's dreadful to imagine the level of internal fuckup that was happening, that a company let her and others go with no strings attached just so they don't go after them. Or the sheer incompetence when creating contracts for employers.

Spoiler: links

https://twitter.com/nekochiyo_ch her twitter
announcement
reintroduction and character sheet
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChW6BzPJCkN381iPrj6mLfg YT channel (it has new name and all but google still shows old data with old channel name and introduction in search)

Kind of doubt she would reappear in a different company after going indie and having such shitty experience, but someone might want to keep a look on her in case she starts spilling some details after starting to properly stream again

 

[The Proctor]

Also she is constantly telling Gabe to go fuck himself.

Please give timestamps.

Saha Kyuri from AuroraLiveVR, chinese vtubing company has gone indie and rebranded as Neko Chiyo.

Didn't Artia pop back up again at some point? Was she part of this crazy?

 

[thirteenorphans]

The talk about black vtubers and recently mentions of Nux and Evanit0 reminds me that he made this video:

I wonder how these people know that none of the big corporate vtubers are black? Are they, gasp, doxfriends too? Or are they going to say some shit like "oh they don't talk/act black" like this doesn't reinforce stereotypes?

All I ask from my vtubers is that they provide content that I can enjoy. Who or what they legally fuck and how they look under the avatar is no more than a morbid curiosity. I also hope they're not a cunt and are generally honest people but in the world of content creation we really have no way of knowing outside of places like this forum or the homeland.

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

There's plenty of dark skinned vtubers that don't get this type of harassment because they don't behave in a way that incites strife. This guy is not one of them with his loud victim complex and getting offended for other people.
There's even a general that archives them https://rentry.org/darkskinvtubers

Welp, now we have GSG's hit list. I feel like half of this list, without even looking them up, would be passed off as 'they're just tan!' like the whiner said about Flare.

Going through that list though, decided to look at https://twitter.com/bodega_rat because of the name. Local Rodent Bodegro.

I wonder how these people know that none of the big corporate vtubers are black? Are they, gasp, doxfriends too? Or are they going to say some shit like "oh they don't talk/act black" like this doesn't reinforce stereotypes?

What do you mean? Vesper's black. Only the best BBC for my oshis.

 

[Scoots]

Machi finished 13 Sentinels

Here is his review

 

[God's Strongest Mozumite]

Mozu was teasing this art on her stream, a little too spicy to show the full thing on yt but I'm posting the whole thing here for, uh, archival purposes, yeah

 

[El Rrata]

Forgive the use of this clipper, but it is the only one I could find for this. Hoshikawa meets Marine and Pekora and absolutely loses her shit.

Edit: changed clip to non-shitty clipper, thanks to @/kushami tasukaru

 

[electronic elephant]

Mumei has some thoughts about the ability to regenerate limbs.

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[RestlessRain]

This is an incredibly rare event, it's the only time Tenma will ever be taller than Pippa.

 

[ValkyrieAce]

Ain't no way this doesn't last 8 hours unless some people really, really suck or people let her win.

Also, I guess it is gonna be April 34th before we get the Namirin stream if she is gonna be doing stuff like this which will fuck her voice up lol

I guarantee it will happen tomorrow because Bae's got a stream in the morning and I have goddamn work meetings right at that time so I'll miss it, so of course Namirin will do her week late stream during that time too. Also IRyS will go the full 8 hours and I'll end up getting no sleep. I hate her so much...

 

[El Rrata]

I guarantee it will happen tomorrow because Bae's got a stream in the morning and I have goddamn work meetings right at that time so I'll miss it, so of course Namirin will do her week late stream during that time too. Also IRyS will go the full 8 hours and I'll end up getting no sleep. I hate her so much...

I hope not. I can't watch it if it is tomorrow, either.

 

[Johnny Jambalaya]

You forgot "Something awful" janny, and most importantly and most embarrassing: A "The Virtual Asylum" janny.

Bet you wouldn’t be saying this if you saw my weekly TVA paycheck

 

[Titanosaurus]

but I hope for her sake she built an audience that doesn't give a shit

Yeah I haven't watched her enough to say if she leaned on the "oh single dorky woman" too much or not, but it really depends on her fans and general appeal if this will even matter at all. If it happens most of her pay pigs were emotionally fixated on her.... oh well, you used a gambit and it didn't work out cuz you got caught. As for coomy stuff, some viewers will still be okay with it and some will not, nothing to do about it. Some people would enjoy their friends-GF's porn, some wouldn't, right? If these things are all she had to offer, who cares anyways?

 

[Porean]

Bet you wouldn’t be saying this if you saw my weekly TVA paycheck

About the same as i get paid for posting here i presume? 0 fucking dollars

 

[Titanosaurus]

What part is Remi talking about, anything interesting.


^Unlisted, is there something that needs preserving in here?

 

[Paladin]

Yeah I haven't watched her enough to say if she leaned on the "oh single dorky woman" too much or not, but it really depends on her fans and general appeal if this will even matter at all. If it happens most of her pay pigs were emotionally fixated on her.... oh well, you used a gambit and it didn't work out cuz you got caught. As for coomy stuff, some viewers will still be okay with it and some will not, nothing to do about it. Some people would enjoy their friends-GF's porn, some wouldn't, right? If these things are all she had to offer, who cares anyways?

From what I've seen, commers have next to no loyalty. The second the reality of them never fucking their "oshi"/cumrag becomes clear, they will move on to the next vtuber who will give them that fantasy. It's why I have little respect for those kinds of vtubers as the end result always tends to be the same. Also, I find the practice to be a bit predatory, and is another reason why I stay away from streamers who participated in it.

 

[Horo7618]

IdolEN pre-announcement announcement

 

[Titanosaurus]

Also, I find the practice to be a bit predatory, and is another reason why I stay away from streamers who participated in it.

Yeah I agree, I think there's acceptable amount that's like fan-service. Just giving the fans something they want as a treat, like some ASMR streams or voice packs, sexy art and stuff. But then somewhere there's line where it becomes the main draw of the vtuber or there $$$ source and it kind of ruins the rest of the Vtuber experience because it's just more like smut then. And of course if it's the main draw and it get compromisedby the pi pi pi pinus havers then yeah.... that's a big L.

Also REMI GATE 2023 NSFW