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MythicalSloth

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Can i ask why people here hate/want Hololive EN3 so bad?
Bringing in new blood can benefit gen 1 & 2 if the new members bounce off them well, even if only a handful of them end up working well together. And as already mentioned can help with the current stretches of no streams due to scheduling/breaks/travel/etc.
 

ValkyrieAce

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Joined:  Jan 28, 2023
Can i ask why people here hate/want Hololive EN3 so bad?
I don't want any more EN or JP in general until others leave. It's already at the oversaturation point to where there's birthdays and anniversaries every week, and events like Holofes would get even more bloated.
 

Crush

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Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
HoloEN needs a proper :holohag: more than anything.
Imagine

Nina in HoloEN 3

(I know it’s not going to happen but imagine if it did)
 
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Johnny Jambalaya

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I don't want any more EN or JP in general until others leave. It's already at the oversaturation point to where there's birthdays and anniversaries every week, and events like Holofes would get even more bloated.
No, actually we must keep releasing more and more vtubers. Just look, Cover has fallen from the #1 vtuber company down to the #1 vtuber company in this huge gap of no new thing. Think of the shareholders for god’s sake.
 

2DUM4U

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EN3 would be nice just because it means more content.
It's already at the oversaturation point to where there's birthdays and anniversaries every week, and events like Holofes would get even more bloated.
There are some disadvantages, but I think they're still manageable at this point.
 

Empty_Inbox

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The Virtual Asylum Thread Recap
Pages 4400-4450

Other Recap parts can be found [HERE]

Ᵽ PHC: Phase Connect
♨ FVR: FlaVR
▷ HLO: Hololive
☆ HST: Holostars
◷ NIJ: Nijisanji
₪ IDL: Idol Corp
Ⓥ VSJ: VShojo


thread | Shill Widget™, new monetization scheme

post | ◷ NIJ | Scarle continues Trouble Days

post | ▷ HLO | Hololive Pop up store in Taipei KV

post | ▷ HLO | Moona's family member passed away

post | About why Natsumi better suited to stay indie


post | ▷ HLO | Keekihime Birthday tweet
post | Location in Japan. Also FeFe put herself on Times Square

post | ▷ HLO | Anya A-chan off collab
post | Bae Sora collab


post | Ᵽ PHC | Uruka about Sakana not renewing her contract

post | Ⓥ VSJ | Kson talking about Anime Expo

post | ▷ HLO | Nakaoka posts a new photo, advices event goers to dress fancy

post | ◷ NIJ | Selen, Wigg, Tempo in another Shibuya Hal custom, Apex

post | ▷ HLO | Goodsmile figurine of Lamy

post | ◷ NIJ | Recommendation - Sapa, subtitled NijiJP compilations


post | ▷ HLO | Holotori offcollab with handcam, Kiara, Mumei, Reine
post | Starts here


post | Not enough reports coming in
post | Reminder of uquusquad ban


post | ▷ HLO | Mumei is in Japan
post | Shout out to JShay Too, who continues to clip after his original channel was YouTubed
post | His stance on monetization
post | Calli's Trouble Days VOD is back, with some censoring
post | Kiara about hanging out in Japan with Calli


post | ₪ IDL | Coni on Chainsaw Man

post | ▷ HLO | Hololive fan animation by MudE, feat Kekkai Sensen ED

post | ₪ IDL | Rin DDoSed her corpo website


post | ▷ HLO | Gura uploaded a new song, blue horizon. Earlier she did a short karaoke stream
post | Archive (YouTube) - Gura Karaoke, by Xanthopathy (@Xanthopathy on YouTube)
post | Archive (mega) - Gawr Gura - UNARCHIVED KARAOKE
post | Gura songs on YouTube
post | Gura's room for both Seishun Archive and blue horizon, and a 3D showcase


post | ☆ HST | Ohmonah Holostars collab - Tempus merch, including Magni and Vesper


post | ▷ HLO | V-uwasa posted a Holo members IRL, hit piece using the worst pictures or screenshots
post | ◷ NIJ | Similar Nijisanji video


post | Ᵽ PHC | Lumi with attention grabbers

post | ▷ HLO | Cover posted an Explanation of Issues During Protolive #2

post | Sister Abigail takes time away from streaming, trying to balance things

post | Blair Labri clip to compare her voice to V&U robot/memory card girl Echo Lyne


post | Youtube Premium subscription to increase the price
post | About Premium share with youtubers, way more money than ad revenue apparently
post | More on that
| ▷ HLO | Also, AZKi channel was fixed, but a lot of people got unsubed. There is still a problem with channel list

post | ▷ HLO | Gura with another stream (privated atm), Gura is back talks


post | PixelLink Pummel Party collab
post | Links to all POVs

post | Request - Any web archivers aside of archive.ph?
post | Wayback Machine

post | ₪ IDL | Coni learns about Warhammer 40K

post | ▷ HLO | Request for Gura Liveposting, turns into a discussion about Liveposting threads


post | Yokast collab, Friday the 13th
| Ⓥ VSJ | Also Kson is in Taiwan
post | Kson is being fed


post | ₪ IDL | Rin ad for Skrunkly on Times Square
post | It was by fans, video

post | ◷ NIJ | Notes on Enna's Pokemon stream, she worked at retail before. Discussion on her quitting and where to go after

post | ☆ HST | Axel and RPR on VCR GTA server, trying to cook emulating Breaking Bad

post | ▷ HLO | Kiara's new outfit plans. Not drawn by Huke


post | On FeFe. Discussion on her follows
post | About her full name and Donald Trump
post | About her content

post | FeFe was banned on Twitch
post | Wrong FeFe
post | FeFe was on Nux's side during the Vshojo incident


post | Ᵽ PHC | Remi posts math question, thread struggles with notations

post | Lisa had a shower beer

post | Delu is entering Bilibili
post | Screenshots and a link

post | Mozu suffering

post | ▷ HLO | Ollie 3D showcase, also holotori off collab fan art
post | Starts here

post | ◷ NIJ | Update - Xia Ekavira premiere was about a song


More Magni & Vesper rrats
post | ▷ HLO | ☆ HST | HoloEN Starting Voices on sale, no Magni or Vesper
post | There is a filter error with Axel
post | Lando vid about OffKai Expo

post | No Haachama voice pack either
post | About Lando's vape video
post | About lean and pomu leaf

post | Rrats are out of control
post | Question - Are there any credible rrats?

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post | ☆ HST | Han Byeol is going to TwitchCon Vegas

post | ▷ HLO | Koyori starts Armored Core
post | Sara with a new haircut

post | Ayla Yew collab with artists

post | ☆ HST | Flayon In The Hole with Koe

post | Megu Hazakura, JP ASMR lewdtuber, talks about sexual harassment

post | ▷ HLO | Kaela members talk, doesn't like forced penguin jokes

post | Ⓥ VSJ | IronMouse/Henya/Melody talking about Vshojo hate

post | ▷ HLO | About CouncilRys shipping

post | Ᵽ PHC | Jelly got a reply from Bumble
post | Archive
post | Lia is in a hospital


post | Kirsche donothon
post | Ᵽ PHC | Pippa drawned from memory


post | Ᵽ PHC | Lord Sinte is now a featured clipper of Rie and Ami
post | Pippa is not political, clip compilation

post | Numi with Neuro-sama


post | Moriko merch plush
post | Got it fully funded
post | Info about the sales


post | ▷ HLO | Nene about wearing diapers in concerts

post | Ᵽ PHC | Lia ad on /vt/
post | Airi's voice needs more rest, she pushes streams further back


post | Amiya cried because of "cruel marshmallow", ended the stream
post | Her tweets about it
post | More info
post | Archive of the end, VOD is privated
post | Archive (filechan) - 【Gimmick: Special Edition】 IT'S HAPPENING!! PART 2


post | Filian, el_xox, Camila and others collab

post | ♨ FVR | Nyana is back, celebrates monetization


post | ◷ NIJ | Aia talked about interesting debut reactions that follow her
post | More info and some context


post | Sayu about people making assumptions

post | ▷ HLO | Bae is returning to Trouble Days, this time members only (no patch)

post | Ᵽ PHC | Pippa collab with Coyote from Kemono Friends, playing Forewarned


post | Graduation - Megumi Kuragiri, bear vtuber from Twitch. HoloEN3 talks
post | Clips of her, singing and talking
post | She showed new account, Teyra Fenthera
post | Agency called Akio Air is recruiting
post | Blair Labri is going to debut at V&U


post | Roza Coatl's ex commited suicide some time ago, she learned later. Also some Iluna debut info

post | Matoi Miia got 400 giftsubs, crying

post | Recommendation - Techibi from Star Spectre, playing FF games

post | ▷ HLO | Subaru Live2D update screenshots
post | Marine is getting 3.0 update

post | Miori Celesta raided Isa

post | ₪ IDL | Aoi Moi Moi interacting with Yuko
post | Archive - Riro Ron - 【UNARCHIVED KARAOKE】Spanish & Russian songs
Also Archive - Chikafuji Lisa - 【Unarchived Karaoke】the usual! (mostly EN songs)

post | Ᵽ PHC | NotTheo, Tenma clipper, got a sponsorship offer from Raid

post | ▷ HLO | Filters strike again, Aqua food edition


post | Ⓥ VSJ | Mikeneko got a Rushia-face model. Discussion follows
post | JP haters are seething
post | Model reel
post | Color changes for comparison


post | ▷ HLO | Kiara to visit Anime Toronto

post | ◷ NIJ | Marie with a karoke for 1 year anniversary

post | Ᵽ PHC | Tenma is looking forward to Remnant 2, organizing co-op with Ember and Lumi

post | Eldritch Purity Sin got a puppy called Kiwi, renaming is not


post | Ᵽ PHC | Lumi Jelly Factorio collab, later to be joined by Sakana. Also Shondo touched grass, photo evidence
post | Sakana Factorio status
post | Some people stir shit because of "male collab"


post | ▷ HLO | AI Cover - Shishiro Botan - Как на войне / Like in the War, by Ishima (@themausoleumof), channel features several Holo AI covers of Russian songs

post | ▷ HLO | EN and ID girls hang out at a karaoke
post | About IRyS being busy
post | About moving out during renovation, more info as discussion continues


post | Ᵽ PHC | Jelly talking about big noses and money

post | ◷ NIJ | Maria got a chibi model

post | ▷ HLO | ◷ NIJ | Depressed Nousagi video, on corpo revenue share

post | ◷ NIJ | Selen is recruiting Minecraft builders

post | ♨ FVR | Nyana is back with her friend Maika to play TF2

post | Ⓥ VSJ | Zentreya, Melody, Froot, Cottontail and rpr collab

post | Mavia, harpy vtuber, reveals her RL appearance (with a face mask), is celebrating her Birthday with a pool party


post | ◷ NIJ | Iluna relay of Anniversary streams
| ☆ HST | Also Altare will have an anniversary stream
post | Aster's anniversary stream is a handcam magic show


post | Ᵽ PHC | Scoots is experimenting with editing for Airi clip
post | Phase Clips of the Week, July 15-21


post | Archive (filechan) - Amiya Aranha - 【UNARCHIVED KARAOKE】 City Pop Only!
post | Archive (mega) - Amiya Aranha - 【UNARCHIVED KARAOKE】City Pop Only!
post | And YouTube versions, split by songs


post | ğöğğöğ (@biligbilig) watched Barbie movie, posts Beatani pic

post | Moriko is doing a 2 day challenge, already drunk

post | Tomoe is taking SAT as a 30K subs Special

post | Ᵽ PHC | Phase girls collabs, Virtual Convention and Half Dead

post | Hylo of former Cyberlive has graduated a week ago

post | ◷ NIJ | Info from an alleged Hana members stream, claims Niji will be very busy until October

post | ▷ HLO | Upcoming Mario Party collab, Calli Ina Kaela Zeta
post | It's a part of Mori's 24 Hour Stream Marathon


post | Ᵽ PHC | Lia is arranging call ins for her Birthday
post | Lia has an interview with ManlyBadassHero


post | ▷ HLO | Holo Twitter uploaded the teaser with Coming Soon

post | ☆ HST | Axel Anniversary, talking about things that happened this year

post | ▷ HLO | New Ano Yatsu (Dan N) parody song, One Inch Menace


post | Info on Momo Otako
post | Hentai tags tierlist


post | Sayu debuting a rebrand chibi model before her main one

post | ▷ HLO | Gura and Mumei are going to play Moom & Goob voice quiz

post | Question - Why people here hate/want Hololive EN3 so bad?




Need time for this one

DM me about missing info and mistakes!
 
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El Rrata

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events like Holofes would get even more bloated.
Speaking of events, there are too many now. Fes, EN Concert, Summer, and Blue Journey, too. It is getting to be too much.

I mentioned it before, but EN3, for me, would work best if they got people who streamed different time zones from the current girls. When the girls actually stream, NA primetime would get too crowded. Morning/early afternoon is totally empty aside from Kiara.
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

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Joined:  Mar 20, 2023
>cheating and pegging near the bottom
>"oh thank god, someone wi-"
>forced and ugly bastard in S tier
>futa, ntr, and bondage all in upper tier
>half the fucking tags are in S-tier

Wait, as a man of limited tag indulgence, isn't NTR and cheating the same thing? Why does she have them in different spots?
Cheating is where one person goes behind the other's back to bang another person, as intent and willingness are denoted. NTR is generally cuckshit but the overall point is that it's someone taking a person away from their partner. It can be interpreted in a few ways. It can be in the general cuckshit where some dude is forced to watch his gf/wife get banged. It can also be some 3rd party forcing their way onto a housewife and she becomes sex tranced into seeking it out more. A lot of NTR shit can be summarized outside the usage of "cuckshit" as "fuck them until they forget about their partner". It's basically an extension of the "forced" tag. It's why she holds NTR in B-tier while Cheating is F-tier, it's because she has "Forced" in S-tier.

Examples:
>Wife sleeps with a man that's not her husband intentionally
This would be just "Cheating".
>Man is forced to watch his wife sleep with 1 or more men
Regardless of intent, this would be "NTR". However if the woman is willing, it would also be "Cheating". If she is unwilling, it is "Forced"
>Stranger forces himself onto a wife
This would be just "Forced" but if she starts to like it more than her partner, then it's "NTR".
>Wife sleeps with neighbor's son while husband is away at work
This would be how Japanese marriages work.
 

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Egg the Boiled

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Joined:  Nov 2, 2022
Can i ask why people here hate/want Hololive EN3 so bad?
I'm not really here begging for EN3, but even though I think all the current EN girls seem like great people, they just don't have the content I want to see. I still like them when I watch them, but for some reason, they didn't really grab me, and I couldn't tell you why. I end up finding Tempus, Phase Connect and other smaller companies or indies more to my taste.

So I wouldn't mind seeing a new wave to see if someone pops up who does fit my taste. Even better if they stream in my timezone.
 

The Peanut Gallery

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Grimmi ended early due to discovering bugs in her emergency food and raided into beetle vesper


Also the smart kettle is playing the muppet horror game
 

2DUM4U

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Also the smart kettle is playing the muppet horror game
Do my eyes deceive me? Has she been streaming for 7 hours? Does she usually stream for that long?

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Yes, she beat FF16 in like 2 streams of playing non stop.
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Holy shit. She's like Korone. I guess that's one way to deal with the timezone issue that some people have brought up.

EDIT:
Ever since her debut she's been streaming nearly every day for hours on end. She's been able to keep that 5-7k ccv pretty consistent too which is pretty impressive.
Now I get it. Vshojo lost Nyanners, Silvervale, and Veibae just before her debut.

Clearly she's decided to make up for their loss by producing as much content as 4 people by herself.
 
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Nenélove

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I don't think having more ENs is a bad thing at all, for COVER it really only means more money, and I think a lot of the people against it are still operating under "You gotta watch and support everyone" complaining about there being too much content. Just support the ones you like and keep some tabs on the others, I know for a fact a lot of people already don't watch everyone because they included a bunch of indies and small corpos in their rotation and don't have time for it so I don't get this idea that there are TOO MANY TALENTS ALREADY.

Other/new corpos debut talents like fucking buns in a bakery and those debuts still get attention despite being dime-a-dozen and forgettable and you get people swearing their allegiance (and bank account) on new chuuba #46575853 because she's just SOOOOO TALENTED and amazing and she was probably married to me in a previous life or whatever. I don't think Holo should hold back in debuting 5 new people after 2 fucking years, because be fucking honest, you will be crying like a pussy if one of them pulls a Sana.
 

Aliepheese

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Do my eyes deceive me? Has she been streaming for 7 hours? Does she usually stream for that long?
Yes, she beat FF16 in like 2 streams of playing non stop.
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Sankisei

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Mikeneko will have a stream to talk about her future
Worth to check it out to see if my nigga Autisticus is a schizo or not
 

The Peanut Gallery

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Do my eyes deceive me? Has she been streaming for 7 hours? Does she usually stream for that long?

EDIT:

Holy shit. She's like Korone. I guess that's one way to deal with the timezone issue that some people have brought up.
Ever since her debut she's been streaming nearly every day for hours on end. She's been able to keep that 5-7k ccv pretty consistent too which is pretty impressive.
 

Pyhf

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That's fair, lol. I assume all the girls are too busy. Ame and Fauna are MIA. Gura, Ina, and Kronii seem to use Twitter in bursts. The rest of the girls are in Japan and seem to be very busy.

Also, I wonder what would make people seethe more? Stars EN 3 or a split-gender group?


> Ame and Fauna are going to get the same model brush-up as Magni and Vesper
> The four of them are going to be EN's Mixed-Gender Sub-group
> This is Cover's way of showing everyone their stance on mixed gender collabs
> Cover also hopes that this may put pressure on the other talents to co-mingle with their other gender counterparts, in the hopes of having a more cohesive HoloPro. (and more attention to the males)

> Fauna is there to reinforce Cover's stance, as she has a lot of Gachikoi and (afaik) hasn't interacted with the Stars
> The whole evil laugh promo is just cover playing the villain of and laughing at the unicorns.
> Cover intentionally kept the Mag/Ves reports vague to stir-up drama and attention.
> Also, because of said drama, people are already sad/huffing copium and hopium as we speak, all according to keikaku
> When the Mixed Gender sub group reveal is made, a lot of people huffing copium would be too busy rejoicing about the bois' return and would have no time to cry about the mixed gender thing. (Part of the plan, hoping it works.)

This is the first rrat I've ever posted and possibly the last. Thus, I expect nothing less than ALL the headpats in the form of positive stickers.

No, I do not have money to buy meds!!
 

Shuba

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I don't want any more EN or JP in general until others leave. It's already at the oversaturation point to where there's birthdays and anniversaries every week, and events like Holofes would get even more bloated.
That's less of an oversaturation problem and more the girls (or management) just being really bad with picking birthdays. There's 50+ talents across all 3 branches and 365 days in a year. February and March having near 20 birthdays alone is just plain stupid.

Speaking of events, there are too many now. Fes, EN Concert, Summer, and Blue Journey, too. It is getting to be too much.
The number of events feels okay, the issue is that like the birthdays, they're all packed together. Suisei's live in January and 4th Fes in March was good. But the EN concert and the 5th gen concert were literally in the same week. The summer concert is at the end of August and Blue Journey is 2 weeks after that. If they spaced the lives out better, it'd feel less dense but as it is now, it's no wonder most of the girls think of summer as 3 months of constant work.


Personally, I'm indifferent about EN3. I feel like Cover can handle one more EN wave but what they have now feels stable and they'd be fine without one.



Here's a wholesome Holotori moment. You can really tell Reine's been making the most of her Japan trip.
 

braindoko

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Vinesauce Laimu had a redebut today. Weirdly her design stayed mostly the same, seems she just changed artists
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She got a fangame made for her and later played Crab Game with Vinny for one round before he dipped

Vinesauce has other vtubers, one of them is Dorb who was playing RAD, pure unintentional comedy



 

White Stone

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Absolutly a mixed gender wave, Tempus 3 would at least gives them more fuel to continue hating but everything else would keep going business as usual, a mixed gender would be such a fundamental change to the status Quo it would probably make many people go nuclear, it would be basically be Cover saying the girls HAVE to interact with the boys now, this is not negotiable. (also why regardless of how much I hate unicorns I think this would be to much o a crazy idea and would never ever happen)
I unironically think a mixed Hololive wave would actually kill off Hololive for good. The shitstorm from the general fanbase would be enormous.

But even if we put fanbase reaction aside, whichever way Cover is going to handle this mixed wave would also be awkward as hell. They have made it clear that Hololive is girls only while Holostars is boys only, so where are they going to insert this mixed wave to? Create a new branch altogether?
You know all those game servers (Minecraft), big events, concerts where all the girls participate together at the same time? How will that be handled for the mixed wave?
  1. Invite only the girls and pretend the boys doesn't exist. Why even create a mixed wave in that case?
  2. Invite all of them, including the boys. That would be fair, except things are going to get more awkward from then on. We're going to have a huge group of girls interacting, playing and performing together as usual, except there are a couple of boys in the mix, lol. I don't even want to get into the idea where some of the girls would not want to be near a guy, that's opening another can of worms.
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I have a genuine question to those who are very against the idea of EN3. What do you think of other small/mid agencies like Phase or Idol debuting new talents and are still hiring as of now?
 

Kazuma

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