General Vtuber Discussion (V1)

[BlueSharkTV]

kronii tweet. its her concert message.

Spoiler: tweet

 

[Username Generator]

Any platform that have a number going up and down is destined to go to shit

Another problem is that in most cases the number can't go down. Even if 99/100 disagree with you, there is no easy way to show it. You can obviously take it to the comments, but that takes a lot more effort. This is one of the very few theoretically good things about reddit, but its worthless since anyone disagreeing gets banned off the echochamber anyway.

This is one thing i like about this forum: It takes the same effort to show that you agree with something as it takes to show that you disagree with something.

 

[masterstocking]

Another problem is that in most cases the number can't go down. Even if 99/100 disagree with you, there is no easy way to show it. You can obviously take it to the comments, but that takes a lot more effort. This is one of the very few theoretically good things about reddit, but its worthless since anyone disagreeing gets banned off the echochamber anyway.

This is one thing i like about this forum: It takes the same effort to show that you agree with something as it takes to show that you disagree with something.

The problem with Reddit is the upvote/downvote system is supposed to represent whether or not the comment is more/less relevant to the conversation in question...but people just use it to mass-brigade their own mass-think ideology instead.

I do find it fascinating that Reddit and Twitter are both disintegrating at the same time, though.

Art tax: Have a chill Tako

 

[Hotdogs Aplenty]

Eira is playing minecraft with mikanthemink who is somehow a bigger zoomer and more autistic than Eira

Edit: The Beatles were the BTS of their time...

 

[PleaseCheckYourReceipts]

Since Twitter is a bit topic, a really, really important point.

What ruined Twitter was the "Arab Spring" of 2011. Which was a purely Western Intelligence created event (though issues have to exist to set it off). A lot of places either banned or highly restricted Twitter (and other social media) if they were in the sights of Western Intel. Though it seems like something else is also going on with Twitter and it might be under attack by other factions at the same time. The lockdown seems a tad draconian, but this also looks like a "good opportunity" to break the Menhara that plague the platform a bit.


Someone mentioned US stats. Never, ever take "total USA" for anything relevant. If you don't break it out by either Region or Race, you don't have any relevance globally. Same actually applies to Russia, India and, arguably, China. (Though China lies about everything.)

 

[The Peanut Gallery]

Source

 

[Negzana]

Looking into the future, if no graduations happen this Summer and Fall (Please Haachama return and commit to streaming! Please nobody have a health emergency), and 2024 isn't a 2020 on steroids total catastrophe scenario. Hololive's prospects into the later 2020s may stay good. The medium is affordable and promotes escapism (Something much desired) better than most other forms of entertainment and as long as people have money (AKA pessimism for 2024 shenanigans) to afford vtuber models and give donations the type of culture seems resilient enough to stay relevant even if the faddish allure that it had 2020-2022 has warn off.

However I predict 2024 is going to make 2020 look sane and the golden days of Vtubing are going to stop hard.

 

[CalciumAnimal]

The problem with Reddit is the upvote/downvote system is supposed to represent whether or not the comment is more/less relevant to the conversation in question...but people just use it to mass brigade their own mass-think ideology instead.

Relevant an Useful not just relevant but yeah people abuse the shit out of it in most places.

Find a chill small community and your golden though same as dickschord. Your mileage is gonna vary depending on how many shitty people have set up shop

though i say this having left the community i found because the troons had infiltrated and stolen a mod position dispite their frequent displays of instability.

fuck me i guess. can't blame anyone for calling it a shithole though it often is.

 

[Shuba]

Kanata came back from her break and immediately has to take another one. The medicine that was supposed to help her throat did the opposite instead.


DeepL:

Perpetually Pained Tenshi This happened before when the medicine she took for coof recovery just made her feel worse.

 

[Crush]

Coni karaoke #2

 

[2DUM4U]

They seem to be having fun.

Spoiler: tweets

Further confirmation of the impressiveness of the Airi Oppai-ri, and the fact that the other PC girls like to use them as pillows. Shiina talked about doing the same thing starting at the timestamp (6:02).

 

[Continuous Retardation]

She's talked about this in the past so there's nothing really new about it, but it's nice of her to talk about it during her Live.

24:15 AZKi: I have been active mainly in singing. This year I had a chance to let people know about me through activities other than singing.
24:26 AZKi: I did start off as INNK Music
24:27 AZKi: I'm glad more people like me besides my singing.
24:41 AZKi: Now I belong to Hololive, but when I started I belonged to a music label called INNK.
24:42 AZKi: My path was not level. At first I belonged to INNK music.
24:48 AZKi: Though there was an end date for my prior activities, a new Beta route was begun, and I continued down that path
25:01 AZKi: After that INNK Music did close down
25:08 AZKi: And at that time, I had thought about graduating as well
25:30 AZKi: But I thank that I was able to continue down this path with everyone, and Cover as well for helping my decision
25:33 AZKi: I moved the world line from root alpha to root beta. I chose to continue my journey
25:41 AZKi: So many of you have pushed my back forward
25:54 AZKi: When the INNK label broke up, I also felt like graduating. But because of all the pioneers, I decided to continue.
26:01 AZKi: Throughout the difficult times that the past me made it through, I'd like to thank all of you Pioneers and myself from the past as well
26:07 AZKi: So that is why the AZKi of now is here today
26:10 AZKi: Thank you so much
26:22 AZKi: What sort of things will happen from here on out
26:26 AZKi: I'd like to find out!
26:31 AZKi: Well, that was a bit of an emotional speech
26:38 AZKi: So I'd like to move onto the next song soon
26:44 AZKi: And today's live is about destinations

About Sora:

AZKi: From the time I started, Sora was the one who I communicated with the most
AZKi: When I was feeling down or troubled, we chatted a lot
AZKi: Sora-chan and I had similar ways of working.
AZKi: As close friends, so many thoughts came flying out while singing Our Bright Parade
AZKi: Since the beginning of our activities, Sora and I have been together in hard times and happy times. We are war buddies and best friends.
Sora: I'm so happy to sing with you, thank you!
AZKi: Every time when I had a difficult time, Sora would always be there
AZKi: She'd suddenly appear telling me to do my best
AZKi: So I'd also watch her, and do my best as well
AZKi: That's why, I'm so happy to have you here with me

If this translated segment went on any longer I might have started crying...

Time for happy thoughts, though! Because I was begging for Holo summer to come back last year, and it really wasn't anything special, but this year they are making it nearly the whole summer like the madlads they are. Someone else mentioned it earlier, but the animation for the MV they released really reminded me of Love Live and I hope that other special events get the same treatment. There seems to be a lot of meaning and thought put into the 'sad' portion of the video. I wonder what Gura's means? She's not crying or anything she's just longingly looking out of her bedroom window at the outside world. It's entirely possible it means nothing personal, but so many other things in that portion are meaningful to the talent on screen. Regardless, the follow up with JP/EN/ID actually interacting in 3D was reaching unhealthy levels of cuteness. If only my beloved Ame and Towa were there, but I'm pretty much a fan of almost every girl who was there today so I won't complain at all.

Also this

Tail physics are GOATed and no one can tell me otherwise

Finally I saw this on /vt/ about a minute ago and I have no ideo why someone made it lol

 

[Nenélove]

Might see a genuine exodus to a new site once the big names on there realize their tweets aren't getting seen.

That's what I fear, just like tumblrfags infected the greater internet (including twitter) once that place banned porn, now they will abandon the rotten carcass of twitter to infest even more stuff.

Looking into the future, if no graduations happen this Summer and Fall (Please Haachama return and commit to streaming! Please nobody have a health emergency), and 2024 isn't a 2020 on steroids total catastrophe scenario. Hololive's prospects into the later 2020s may stay good. The medium is affordable and promotes escapism (Something much desired) better than most other forms of entertainment and as long as people have money (AKA pessimism for 2024 shenanigans) to afford vtuber models and give donations the type of culture seems resilient enough to stay relevant even if the faddish allure that it had 2020-2022 has warn off.

However I predict 2024 is going to make 2020 look sane and the golden days of Vtubing are going to stop hard.

People have been predicting the death/decline of vtubers since 2019 and the medium is still chugging along pretty well.

 

[El Rrata]

So... I went to Anime Expo, because I am a fool. I won't share pictures, for opsec reasons, but you can find plenty of pictures on Twitter of the booths and shit. Here has been my experience:

• People. Fucking everywhere.
• One Piece, Chainsaw Man, and Demon Slayer Cosplay are the name of the game.
• I saw about dozen or so Hololive cosplayers, 3 Nijisanji cosplayers (that I recognized), and 0 VShojo ones.
• Of the Hololive cosplayers, 5 were female. I saw a really good Mumei, Reaper Calli, Miko in her casual outfit, a Gura with spear, and a Suisei in her original outfit.
• Unknown gender (as in, I didn't get a good look) of the Hololive were: Kronii I only saw from behind, a Suisei with orange leggings that I only saw for a split second, another Mumei (could have been the same one, this one had a hood and I only saw for a split second), and a Marine I only saw from behind. I think I briefly saw the top half of an Ame cosplayer, as well.
• The rest were all males: at least one Marine, at least one Gura, a fat and short brown guy half-assed dressed as Sana (hair and white cutoff shirt were the only similarities), a Suisei, Male Okayu, and probably others I have blocked from my memory.
• I saw a girl as maid Pomu (blessed), an Elira briefly from behind as they walked away, and a twink or girl as Kyo (cursed).
• Omocat line was ridiculous
• They had a couple big Hololive Weis Schwarz promos in the enterance to the exhibition hall.
• HoloMeet merch and also some extra merch was in the Kinokuniya booth. I got IRyS nametag thing and nameplate, but the phone stand for her was sold out (the only one whose was). They had a corner of Nijisanji merch with both JP and EN livers that was packed with their typical unimpressive merch like buttons and acrylics, except some small plushies I didn't have much time to look it, either than seeing a Hoshikawa one. I maybe would have gotten Selen or Pomu something, but lol 2%.
• Gundam Place was impenetrable.
• I saw the VShojo stand, they had a booth where you could get VTuber-ified with Mocapi (I think) and that was the only part of it I bothered to see.
• Chumbuds all looked exactly how you would expect them to.
• Lots of the black HoloMyth Omocat shirts around, including on some girls.
• Saw some foreign dudes sporting Polka and MiComet happis. Good taste.
• Saw some people with various birthday merches.
• Good smile booth in the enterainment hall had some giant chibis of Miko, Korone, Fubuki, and Suisei you could take pictures with. I did not.

More later if I remember more.

Edit:

• Lots of cool non-holo cosplay out there. My favorites were some sick, big-ass Gundam cosplay that looked great. Second place: Sailor Moon Master Chief lol.
• Somehow, it did not smell absolutely horrid, despite the heat and a lot of line retardedness with queueing outside. It is my first nerd-related con, so I don't have anything to compare it to. Might also be because you are always moving and dont have time to smell people.

Edit2:

• I DIDN'T see this guy, but I really wish I had
• I saw some guys in HoloDex shirts, but didn't talk with them. I'll ask where your API access is when I see them @Fucking YTs
• I saw at least two guys sporting Wigger DDK merch, lol. One was wearing it with a "Link your Wish" shirt.
• Calli, Ina, and especially Gura were the mosy represented Holos. I saw two people wearing Bae-related merch, one guy with a Mooms shirt, nothing for Fauna, IRyS, or Kronii.

Edit3:

• Oh, and Genshit. Lots and lots and lots of Genshit.

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

Coni karaoke #2

I really like Menace's song selection and while she isn't a "good" singer, it works well for a karoake like this.

I'm not sure about the Coni model, its both technically impressive but also strange looking. I feel like she would be stuck in UOH under Jew Corp, but I'd like something a bit like, less fucking strange I guess I dunno

 

[Titanosaurus]

I really like Menace's song selection and while she isn't a "good" singer, it works well for a karoake like this.

I'm not sure about the Coni model, its both technically impressive but also strange looking. I feel like she would be stuck in UOH under Jew Corp, but I'd like something a bit like, less fucking strange I guess I dunno

Yeah she's a little off key sometimes, I wonder if she's used to singing another version of some of songs (like honey honey). I like her picks though. I think her model works well for her. It's a kind of cute and weird that certainly makes her stand out.

but you can find plenty of pictures on Twitter of the booths and shit

I saw a live walkthrough stream too, didn't spot any sad girls yet though. Maybe tomorrow.

 

[El Rrata]

I saw a live walkthrough stream too, didn't spot any sad girls yet though. Maybe tomorrow.

And this shit is why I am not posting pictures lol

 

[Sankisei]

So... I went to Anime Expo, because I am a fool. I won't share pictures, for opsec reasons, but you can find plenty of pictures on Twitter of the booths and shit. Here has been my experience:

• People. Fucking everywhere.
• One Piece, Chainsaw Man, and Demon Slayer Cosplay are the name of the game.
• I saw about dozen or so Hololive cosplayers, 3 Nijisanji cosplayers (that I recognized), and 0 VShojo ones.
• Of the Hololive cosplayers, 5 were female. I saw a really good Mumei, Reaper Calli, Miko in her casual outfit, a Gura with spear, and a Suisei in her original outfit.
• Unknown gender (as in, I didn't get a good look) of the Hololive were: Kronii I only saw from behind, a Suisei with orange leggings that I only saw for a split second, another Mumei (could have been the same one, this one had a hood and I only saw for a split second), and a Marine I only saw from behind. I think I briefly saw the top half of an Ame cosplayer, as well.
• The rest were all males: at least one Marine, at least one Gura, a fat and short brown guy half-assed dressed as Sana (hair and white cutoff shirt were the only similarities), a Suisei, Male Okayu, and probably others I have blocked from my memory.
• I saw a girl as maid Pomu (blessed), an Elira briefly from behind as they walked away, and a twink or girl as Kyo (cursed).
• Omocat line was ridiculous
• They had a couple big Hololive Weis Schwarz promos in the enterance to the exhibition hall.
• HoloMeet merch and also some extra merch was in the Kinokuniya booth. I got IRyS nametag thing and nameplate, but the phone stand for her was sold out (the only one whose was). They had a corner of Nijisanji merch with both JP and EN livers that was packed with their typical unimpressive merch like buttons and acrylics, except some small plushies I didn't have much time to look it, either than seeing a Hoshikawa one. I maybe would have gotten Selen or Pomu something, but lol 2%.
• Gundam Place was impenetrable.
• I saw the VShojo stand, they had a booth where you could get VTuber-ified with Mocapi (I think) and that was the only part of it I bothered to see.
• Chumbuds all looked exactly how you would expect them to.
• Lots of the black HoloMyth Omocat shirts around, including on some girls.
• Saw some foreign dudes sporting Polka and MiComet happis. Good taste.
• Saw some people with various birthday merches.
• Good smile booth in the enterainment hall had some giant chibis of Miko, Korone, Fubuki, and Suisei you could take pictures with. I did not.

More later if I remember more.

Isnt Funny how Holo and Niji dont bother with this big con and you still see a lot of their fans?
Also did you see Kson in the VS stand? She took a lot of pictures with fans but you cant see them thanks to French people

 

[God's Strongest Mozumite]

Mozu is coping well given the new Twitter restrictions

 

[El Rrata]

Isnt Funny how Holo and Niji dont bother with this big con and you still see a lot of their fans?
Also did you see Kson in the VS stand? She took a lot of pictures with fans but you cant see them thanks to French people

I guess I should have bothered to see if she was going. I didn't see her because I didn't bother to even look the the VShojo booth in its entirety, oops.

Holo may have not had their own booth, but they have a ton of representation. They are featured at the Bushiroad/Weiss-schwarz exhibit and entertainment booth, same with the Good Smile booths, at the Omocat booth, and the Kinokuniya booth. All of which are very large booths.