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Mumberthrax

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Tell me you've never watched Shiina without actually telling me you don't watch shiina.
My dude, she doesn't even show her model from the chest down because she's also uncomfortable with the clothing. If that's the only "lewd stuff" you have a pretty low bar. Remi, on the other hand creeps me out, even moreso knowing she has a loli-er or toddler form.
It's like PC management gave the risque models to the less yabai people (Airi and Shiina) to try to compensate..
I haven't watched much of her content, but I did watch her debut stream, complete with innuendos and jokes about circumcision/castration of her viewers, and bits and pieces here and there afterward. I assumed that those sorts of lewd jokes would continue to be part of her shtick but maybe that was a mistaken assumption.
Considering that she has done a lot of the art for Phase Connect, and she's the "seamstress", my impression was that she had tailored her own character's outfit/design to her preferences. If she is uncomfortable with it, why did she play into it when she would be the person most capable of having editorial powers over it at the outset? (Edit: also with what was it, seven months before debut in sakana's basement during which time she could have had some say? It's not like the design was rushed onto the screen before she had time to say anything). I know that pippa has mentioned that she herself probably had more input on her character's design than gen three would have, but didn't even Erina talk about how she helped to customize her character's design to be less revealing or something?

Edit: then you have this stream (which i have not watched, so maybe I totally misinterpreted it as well), which appears to be a drawn out joke about the word for crab in japanese sounding like "c*nny", the meme word for sex with children but anime or whatever:

edit2: I didn't even notice the thumbnail text until after posting here - "cute, powerful, and tasty", in this community, rings a little close to "cute and funny" to be a coincidence, don't you think?

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We're off to a great start. [link]
 
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Scoots

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I haven't watched much of her content, but I did watch her debut stream, complete with innuendos and jokes about circumcision/castration of her viewers, and bits and pieces here and there afterward. I assumed that those sorts of lewd jokes would continue to be part of her shtick but maybe that was a mistaken assumption.
Considering that she has done a lot of the art for Phase Connect, and she's the "seamstress", my impression was that she had tailored her own character's outfit/design to her preferences. If she is uncomfortable with it, why did she play into it when she would be the person most capable of having editorial powers over it at the outset? I know that pippa has mentioned that she herself probably had more input on her character's design than gen three would have, but didn't even Erina talk about how she helped to customize her character's design to be less revealing or something?


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We're off to a great start. [link]
Shiina went on record saying that she agreed with our sentiment that her outfit was yab she told Fishman and he dismissed it as nonsense
 

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crosspost time


Seeing as Persona 5 comes out on PC this month, it's time to reignite the shitstorm over a game that's older than 95% of people who still think Kanji and Naoto are about LGBT issues. But this time it's started by a vtuber.
Anyways, I swear to God we've talked about Demily and >her retarded takes before.

fucking knew this asshole forgot they became trans and a vtuber. Glad to see they are still having awful takes about video games they dont understand.
Fun fact they got kicked out of a discord because they posted shota porn
 
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Keeki released a dance cover of some K-pop song

This is cute as hell. As someone said, I really wish she could showcase her dancing more on the 3D stage.

Was it just her randomly getting angry or was chat somehow involved? She didn't archive the VOD so I guess I missed out on it.
That might be it. Such a wide smile without any teeth looks really fucking weird.
She has a big mouth and going by some of her photos and she might be self-conscious about it. Pretty sure that a big mouth is not really considered attractive in Japan and given how she is a bit of a weeb I feel like she might have internalized that. Also, it could be that she has fucked up teeth. Using myself as an example to somewhat explain a possible cause: I used to have a few fucked up teeth and I had to deal with 5 years of braces so I just stopped smiling because I was self-conscious about it.

Something different


Also, considering the scary talk - would love more 3D models for the girls. Especially for horror games. Furen is so expressive

Nice. I always like it when they go for English songs despite not really being fluent in the language.

Lumi retweeted this girl the other day. I had no idea who she was but overall this karaoke and this type of singing I really like. Reminds me of Nana Asteria's acoustic karaoke she did a few months ago.






Clip tax: This stream was amazing and I will probably clip 2 or 3 moments from it. That said this one I found really funny. That 1.5 second pause is worth a million dollars. Skipped out on Thumbnail Coombait and replaced it with Title Meme Clickbait. Also its pretty interesting how when you rearrange the letters, the Watch Mojo logo does look like a penis.
 

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I saw this thread a couple of days ago, and thoght it was interesting to go over the replies and Qrts a bit. From what I can see, the most popular company Vtweeters or other 2views want to join is Vshojo. Now I know how this place thinks about Vshitshow and esspecially their endlessly repeated slogan about Talent freedom and how hollow that sounds, but it seems that in the normie-sphere it catches on very well.
The most replies about wanting to join Vshojo are for 3 main reasons as I can observe. 1) Talent feedom 2) eventually the ability to keep their current model and fanbase (nevermind that people in Vshojo change models every other month or so) 3) ability to meet Iron Mouse.

As a whole, everyone seems to have memory-holed the Vshojo auditons too. So a lot of people have dreams of joining Vshojo and yet they will never be able to because lmao
Nijisanji seems popular too but not by much more than Hololive. Hololive comes in as last for these people, it seems that its reputation of the evil and very strict Idol corp that forces its members to do stuff is still very widespread. These people obviously have never watched a Haachama stream.

Good thing the rumored strict policy gatekeeping is what turns people off, less dumb people the better
The whole talent freedom preach is really tricky to go through because you're basically one step away from doing a fuck up (ie. feesh's EDUCATE YOURSELF moment) especially if you're trying to appeal to certain types of audiences.

Niji's crazy talent stunts were, as wild as some are (I still want to know whatever goes inside noraneko's mind whenever she does one of her antics) still hold on to the "yeah, it's ok" scale because there's no such thing as virtue signaling and all that shit, just the talents goofing off doing their extraordinary project because they can
I think I'm mainly irked by the Talent Freedom remarks because EN VTubers/aspiring people mostly interpret it as being annoyingly noisy about their one defining trait and making it their whole personality, I never care if someone is part of alphabet group or whatnot, just be normal about it and carry on



Clip tax below:
Towasama hanging out with muted sui-chan and her impression of moona's 3D showcase


 

GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR

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she told Fishman and he dismissed it as nonsense
i hope fishman gets straponed by tenma for that someday
Edit: then you have this stream (which i have not watched, so maybe I totally misinterpreted it as well), which appears to be a drawn out joke about the word for crab in japanese sounding like "c*nny", the meme word for sex with children but anime or whatever:
this is even more autistic than history channel at 1 am.
 

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Was it just her randomly getting angry or was chat somehow involved? She didn't archive the VOD so I guess I missed out on it.
Chat wasn't involved in any way (they were being nice and supportive to Lisa). I'm pretty sure what @Godzilla1984 meant by the image was that he is angry and ready to fuck up whoever was rude to Lisa. At the end of the stream she talked a little about personal (IRL) struggles at the moment and how she was disappointed by someone she thought she was close to. No anger from Lisa either, she was sad and was also apologizing about airing her personal problems during a stream.
 

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The Virtual Asylum Thread Recap
Pages 200-250

Other Recap parts can be found [HERE]


Several posts before and after talk about not being able to reset passwords on old forum.
Say bye-bye to your OG accounts, filthy "Joined 2022" newbs! [post]

The Proctor shares his mind on the website so far, 200+ pages in [post]

Filian pushes to 100K subs with endurance stream [post]

How are feeling about Nijisanji Aster Arcadia, now that dust have settled lol [post with question]
Who? [post], I tried but got back to Lazulight and Obsydia [post], I cannot stand his voice [post]

Uta lore crossover with DemonDice character designs [post]

Judge Dredd / Magni Dezmond fanart [post], and more praise to Magni [post]

Pippa plays city builder, you know the drill [post]

According to this Axel membership stream, he has fucked up his voice/throat [post], he's mentioned having a weak throat [post]

Ghostpolitics watching Pippa's stream and malding [post], some of her regulars (read JL7ten) are not happy [post], context [post]
Clip of ghostpolitics from his POV [post], and one with Ram Ranch [post]. Who the fuck is Ghost [post]?

Calli membership stream details, 27.09.22 [post]. Notes on Myth TTRPG [post]

Kronii's subway experience have inspired some poor soul enough to try it, blended with milk [post]

Historic moment of the thread encapsulated in a screenshot. He's Nolan Crush [post], and about opsec [post]

Zeta Vestia lost her voice, but kept streaming [post]

IRyS is giving an intervew to Tamaki [post with twitter embed]. Did other EN/ID had intervews? [post]. List of prior guests from this year [post]

Some translated clips of Mito birthday call-ins [post], also Okayu call-in here [post]

Graduated Niji liver Mayuzumi was in recent videos [post]. Maybe was recorded prior [post], there is a precedent with Warabeda Meiji

Indonesian podcast talked about vtubers [post]. Degen/thirstposting is something a guest on a podcast fears will "spoil" the local vtuber market.
Possibly caused a local vtuber to suddenly graduate, drama is unfolding. Tip about the podcast [post], more about ID vtuber scene [post]
Even more details, and that local vtuber reconsidered graduating [post]. Other vtubers affected are a lesbian couple [post], details on them [post]

Ollie praise, dislike for her brought up [post]. People talk about her haters, detailes [post]. Parralels drawn with Kiara [post]

Hololive merch, Fanclub membership cards [post], some reddit links [post]. Nijisanji fan club membership [post]

Kronii gets 2nd wisdom tooth done, thread is full of miserable memories [post]

Another Re:AcT vtuber graduated [post]

Mori and Kronii are going to spa [post]

Vesper revealed his HuniePop knowledge [post], while Magni has joined Tumblr Sexyman pantheon [post]

Nijisanji Lie:Verse Liars manga was published, first chapter is out [post]

Details about Truck chan and her growth [post]

Ina and Kiara talked about their sponsor bonuses from Valkyrie Connect [post]

Is ProtonVPN works for accessing the old forum? PC and Android [post]. Troubleshooting [post]

Update on Kronii's wisdom tooth situation [post], rrat time [post]

Update on NijiFes, Hana and Elira still doing 3D, Pomu and Finana can´t make it [post]. Some poor choice of words from Finana [post]

Old forum is ok, but can you get stoned or beheaded in Indonesia? [post]
From answers - no, if you are not in Aceh province. Corruption is a big problem though

Botan missed a hospital visit, bu tried Diablo Burger King, it was good!
Also Zen had another breakdown, Froot was unaware and posted defeated Zen pic [post]

Comparison between NijiFes and HoloFes foreign members participation, goes on for some time [post]

Translation of Nijisanji Strange Tale, Kuzuha segment [post]

Okayu claims to be 26 years old [post]

People arguing the "hag" age, haggletes, christmas cakes being brought up [post]

On Ghost fans, ponies and Pippa [post]

Phase Connect opens auditions for JP [post], some of the reasons JP branch is not doing great [post]

Dice Dungeons game notes, streamed (separately) by Vesper, Kiara and Reine [post]. Botan also streamed it [post]

Juniper (@egocide, moth-girl), had the coolest idea, but not gonna share it. Rebranding is brought up and comes up in thread below [post]

Another trick to own the algorythm of Youtube, explained by Spiffing Brit.
In short, stream gets impressions before start, so delay the actual start [post]

More info on Zen's harrasment and breakdown, you can go to quoted post or see previous recap [post]

IRyS talks about upcoming redesign to Tamaki, translation [post]

On Fauna and LilyLemonleaf enjoying wiping the floor with kids in video games [post],
she enjoyed Dota 2 and wanted Council to play it [post]. Thread moves to Phase Connect League streams

More in-depth rebranding thoughts by AyoTempus, DnD nerd [post]

Chisaka Airi from Phase Connect have an announcement [post], it's monetization [post]

Another Ghostpolitics vtuber crossover [post]

Kirsche is getting help from Azehare with auditions [post]

Spotlight on fanartist Zedd (@ZedGawr) [post]

Altare is playing Planet Coaster, so if you are looking for attraction park sim suggestions, look around here [post]

Pippa is playing Cities: Skylines, thread is doing thread things [post]. She also reacted to some guy living in an abandoned town
Talks about difficulties of all-women company [post], thread goes into details about each girl around Pippa

VPN talks continue [post]

Alare, Kobo, Axel valorant stream [post]

Niji Fantasia concert stream (seems to be privated atm) [post]

3D reveal for Hana and Elira is free [post]

Fauna speaked with Noel about ASMR, Noel's setup close to $9K [post]. Actually, missed that by a 0 [post], audio tech talk go!
Details on Noel's studio from her Holotalk [post]

Twitch is testing Elevated Messages, something akin to Superchats. Kirsche points out redundancy [post]
Thread points out time efficiency [post]

Hololive Myth released their 2nd anniversary song, Non-Fiction [post]

Spotlight on MOONSHINE ANIMATIONS Pippa clips with stop motion dolls [post]

Godzilla1984 saves the vod again, Pippa - Real Cities so Bad We Have to Recreate them in Cities: Skylines [post]

Azehara on his help with Kirsche audition video. Also about Truck-chan [post]

Little Witch Nobeta, game with Hololive talents VA's, that was reveiw-bombed by Chinese antis, was released [post]

Tenma IRL stream, with horse mask [post], doxxing her puss [post], and some details on her streaming [post]

User "this shit" asks for recap, people provide:

Tempus recap [post], project zomboid addendum [post]
Pippa recap [post] and extra [post], and more [post]
Indie and general recap [post]

Altare shout-outs Depressed Nousagi [post]

HoloX is getting a manga in Shonen Jump+ [post]

Shiina of Phase Connect got new rigging, streams Dark Souls 3 [post]. More about rigging [post]

Erina Makina is AderuMoro VA rrat [post], her new twitter [post], doubts about rrat [post]

Pomu clip with "VTUBER WHY" copypasta, backseat gaming [post]

A warning was heard on Pippa stream, possible tournado [post], possible North Carolina location [post]

Magni collab with Altare, girldm, Shoto [post]

NijiFes schedule [post], some convenient links [post]

Lumi and Pippa stream on Twitch [post], Tax topic is brought up. People talk about how useful college is [post]
VOD might be gone due to penis shown on screen [post]. Bug talk is from this stream

Selen left handwritten messages in a NijiFes venue. Also twitter photos with various vtubers' personal items and room dioramas [post]

Ina's new emotes and badges are on the member's poll [post]

Holotalk is coming back [post]

***

People discuss this topic throughout the thread, it pops up here and there - for full context and ease of use, I will group those posts together.
I'm not going to catch every single post on topic, and encourage everyone interested to read the thread starting from the first one to around page 244, but it does continue even after that

Phase Connect leaks about cracking down on "4chan lingo" [post]. Is it fake [post]? Already have some changes [post]
More info on discord leak of Phase Connect inner policies, this time about donobaiting with in-game crowd control functions [post]
Henri sends superchat asking about leaks, Pippa confirms, reassures that her stream will remain the same [post]
After this post, thread reads like a liveposting, jumping to each topic Pippa brings up
List of possible reasons for Phase Connect changing policies [post]
On Pippa Rekeita collab [post]
H2oSakana (Phase Connect SEO) on "what is fair" [post]
Lumi addresses the situation, says nothing will change [post]
(This one on page 257) Talk on Phase Connect changes continue, models and personalities, Tenma and Sakana bullying [post]

***

Machi vtuber on Twitter asked, which vtuber company twitter is willing to join given the chance
Also Kowkarot with mega compilation of Hololive EN ID Among Us collab [post]

Spotlight on animator SwooshDL [post]

Inugami Korone celebrates birthday [post]

Thoughts on NijiFes situation by Faceless Waifu [post]

Amelia Watson aquarium update [post]

Godzilla1984 provides archive of Lumi's "we deep divin" stream. Voice impressions, Pippa collab doing Donald Trump voice [post]

Summary of Ina's member stream, end of November, emotes and badges [post]

Is Zeta a member of Hololive book club? Also shout out to Tenjin Kotone for high effort subtitles [post]

Phase Connect was hiring clippers, 2DUM4U didn't make it so he posts application clips [post]

Vesper said management warned Tempus to not mention any country [post]

1st edition Scuttle News Watch with Scoots, Nijisanji news as of late [post]

Aia Amare celebrates 250K [post]

Vesper members stream October 1, 2022. Also Axel collabs with Zeta [post]

Fauna drawing Council Halloween [post]

Lia is talking about auditions, helping her viewers become a PC vtubers! Also talks about getting more accessible
Thread continues to compare this stream with Pippa's audition advice stream for some time [post]

Unarchive Lia Chris-chan stream on Youtube, there will not be another one [post]

Kiara makes collab thumbnails, includes not released expression of Ollie, and on members having an access to other members' models
Also, Laplus leaked Botan's new sheep costume [post]

Lia is taking 5 college classes on top of streaming [post]

Hana and Elira 3D panel on NijiFes [post], images [post], debut date [post], Hana flossing gif [post]

Miori Celesta x Zephyrianna Cover Q [post] Zephyrianna and her collab group won the AmeLee/Calli contest [post]

Details on Mythia Batford, ID indie vtuber who reconsidered her graduation after recent vtuber purity drama [post]

Bae and Fauna are planning full month of horror collabs [post]

Ina IRyS Kronii Splatoon 3 collab [post]

Pippa raids into drunken Remi, thread liveposting Remi now [post]

Axel and Zeta collab starts, Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes [post]

Michiru from Phase Connect JP gets 10K subs [post]

Calli reports on Kronii's sleeping quirk [post]

Not Lulu had 24-hour stream of cat cam to celebrate 1 year anniversary [post]

Nijisanji 3D streams shout out with several examples [post], Anycolor wants to ramp up 3D model production [post]

Several select clips, Ina dropping by to ask Kiara how to say "raccoon" in German, others are from Axel Zeta collab [post]

Full Tsunderia collab, Plate Up! [post]

Karaoke duet stream of Azki and Iroha [post]

Bandai Namco launches AI Vtuber project called Play BY Live [post]

MoguLive had an interview with Nijisanji's general producer, notes and TL;DRs [post]

Kronii got a dry socket after wisdom teeth removal. Also she has TMJ disorder and will need a surgery [post]

Sava Safari posts photo of a half-eated soap bar [post]

Belmond Banderas got new outfit with options and released a Los!Los!Los! cover. Also notes of Vesper zatsudan, this one has a goth girl story [post]

Hololive EN Council post POVs for Sana's Tower visit [post], liveposting starts [post]

Fanmade Mumei plushie [post]

Azki's alt nayuta held a concert and allowed oversea fans to buy tickets. Bad technical problems and weird choices on part of organizers [post]

Mumei and Towa talk on Twitter [post]

HoloTalk with Ayame is announced [post]

11th year GGN anniversary, karaoke from Makoto and Akira [post]



Oh, before it gets inevitably nuked by copyright holders, here is a highlight of Pekora watching Fate/Zero, Episode 1, by Peko Mains



Maybe I should download it for future... I did, just in case.
 
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gregeoryL

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Is streaming actually that stressful or intensive? Not just talking about Botan here, seems like just about every JP vtuber has come back from the doctor's office with something like 'doctor said that streaming is causing me crippling life problems'. Usually it is related to the voice, which is more understandable for singers and people who talk non-stop for several hours a day, but... still...
 

Faceless Waifu

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Is streaming actually that stressful or intensive? Not just talking about Botan here, seems like just about every JP vtuber has come back from the doctor's office with something like 'doctor said that streaming is causing me crippling life problems'. Usually it is related to the voice, which is more understandable for singers and people who talk non-stop for several hours a day, but... still...

Sitting all day can be unhealthy, especially if the seats or positioning is improper. Eyes as well, since looking at monitor at long period of time can also be unhealthy. Combined with possibility of improper eating (snacks or easy to eat meal than, ya know, proper meal), it might be a problem for streamers/vtubers and needing them to go to doctor just to check on things.
 

Takodachi

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Is she taking a page out of not-sachi's book?

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Is streaming actually that stressful or intensive? Not just talking about Botan here, seems like just about every JP vtuber has come back from the doctor's office with something like 'doctor said that streaming is causing me crippling life problems'. Usually it is related to the voice, which is more understandable for singers and people who talk non-stop for several hours a day, but... still...

Japs are bitch made
 

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Is she taking a page out of not-sachi's book?


Let the rrats fly! Or crawl or whatever. Take your choice of "Cover fucked her 3d so hard she wants to quit" or "She's fed up with corpo life" or "This is Tempus' fault" or "She's negotiating with management".

More mundane options include needing to be active on Twitter every so often or your account is flagged or she's drunk after drowning her sorrows from losing her house in the hurricane.
 

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Is streaming actually that stressful or intensive? Not just talking about Botan here, seems like just about every JP vtuber has come back from the doctor's office with something like 'doctor said that streaming is causing me crippling life problems'. Usually it is related to the voice, which is more understandable for singers and people who talk non-stop for several hours a day, but... still...

Their every move is scrutinized and analyzed, they're constantly worried about how others perceive them, and a lot of more successful streamers have to do a lot of extra work in the background to both train and to create product, and it's not as if vtubers are a mentally-healthy bunch to start with.

So probably about as stressful as being any other sort of celebrity, but with not nearly as much financial reward for their troubles.
 

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Let the rrats fly! Or crawl or whatever. Take your choice of "Cover fucked her 3d so hard she wants to quit" or "She's fed up with corpo life" or "This is Tempus' fault" or "She's negotiating with management".

More mundane options include needing to be active on Twitter every so often or your account is flagged or she's drunk after drowning her sorrows from losing her house in the hurricane.
Or, as some people on 4chan says, she just want a account to play games and do stuff she cant do as Gura because of the restrictions.

Probably something really mundane.
 

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Is she taking a page out of not-sachi's book?

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I have so many questions. But my first question is just. why? Is she drunk? Reflect is literally about moving on from the past and was clearly her way of saying bye to Senzawa. So why make this tweet?
 

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I have so many questions. But my first question is just. why? Is she drunk? Reflect is literally about moving on from the past and was clearly her way of saying bye to Senzawa. So why make this tweet?
She yearns for that sweet sweet talent freedom. She's following her senpai and joining vshojo's next wave as Senzawa.
 

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I have so many questions. But my first question is just. why? Is she drunk? Reflect is literally about moving on from the past and was clearly her way of saying bye to Senzawa. So why make this tweet?
The tweet says it all. Uh oh.
It is a presage for what is to come. Probably (not).
 

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Let the rrats fly! Or crawl or whatever. Take your choice of "Cover fucked her 3d so hard she wants to quit" or "She's fed up with corpo life" or "This is Tempus' fault" or "She's negotiating with management".

More mundane options include needing to be active on Twitter every so often or your account is flagged or she's drunk after drowning her sorrows from losing her house in the hurricane.
Introducing the new talent to VShojo spring 2023, Senzawa!
 

BlueSharkTV

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Alright so take your pick for the not-gura tweet.
1. She is shitposting while drunk.
2. She is homeless because she was riding Ian too hard.
3. The reason for her lack of streams is because she is pulling a sana.
 
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