General Vtuber Discussion (V1)

[Punished Anime Discusser]

Oh I just remembered isn't she pro Russia ? Wonder how she's coping with the Civil War situation

I doubt she's ever played MGS, so the situation with a PMC leader going full Big Roos and trying to create Outer Slaven isn't as funny to her as the rest of us.

 

[Lazybug]

Nah she went "well acktually both sides have nazis but ukraine has more so fuck em" early on, i think

Lmao that just makes this shit even funnier

 

[El Rrata]

Don't think this Henya arc was posted, but the lunatic-kettle beat FF16 while streaming 3-days straight. She took sleep breaks and played VODs in-between.

 

[Abomination]

Airi hasn't ever elaborated on the reason she can't leave her black company. When the topic comes up, she just says she's unable to leave at the current time. In the absence of the actual reason, the prevailing rrats have become: 1) her company paid for education and/or training and locked her into a particularly exploitative contract, or 2) her company is facilitating her visa.

When she first started saying she can't leave, I thought a possibility was that she was being hyperbolic and would feel guilty for leaving because of how much they rely on her.

The more time goes on, the less likely that seems to be the case because of how bad it's gotten for her, but I wouldn't be surprised if that plays somewhat of a role. She very well could be the type of person to worry more about others than herself.

I've seen some speculate maybe some of her family relies on her financially and leaving the job would put a strain on that. Also goes back to her worrying about others more than herself.

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Makes sense why Lumi's on vacation, then.

Well that's unfortunate.

Mana is back, and Sleepy is still banned. God, I hate Twitter.

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Fubuki looks great. I'm happy for her. Truly a pillar in the vtuber world.

 

[Superduper Samurai]

Mana is back, and Sleepy is still banned. God, I hate Twitter.

Look on the silver lining, we actually have more content and possible spergeries regarding current events now

Sleepy's ban was bullshit though

 

[Een Gevolg]

Koshien announcement. Very cool. I am sure there is going to be no controversy surrounding event whatsoever

Not as much as you'd think, I'd imagine. Controversies about things related to sports tend to vanish as soon as the ball's hit; you didn't really hear as much about the human rights violations in Qatar once the World Cup started. Also, Gundou's suspension/graduation seemingly had a more noticeable "gray area" reception than for ex. Zaion. There's a very good reason why Niji would be protective of the bases on balls -- Koshien is by far their biggest annual event, getting massive CCV and active brand sponsorships, like with ex. DoCoMo/ahamo.

 

[Lazybug]

Funny eels birthday

 

[The Peanut Gallery]

Later tonight

Archive

Sleepy currently doesn't have a waiting room/might be on twitch?

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

Well that's unfortunate.

And yet Sleepy's remains purged

 

[electronic elephant]

visa unlikely, her entire family is in la. Most likely it pays well enough to endure the bullshit. She chooses the job over vtubing fulltime for financial reasons.

When she first started saying she can't leave, I thought a possibility was that she was being hyperbolic and would feel guilty for leaving because of how much they rely on her.

The more time goes on, the less likely that seems to be the case because of how bad it's gotten for her, but I wouldn't be surprised if that plays somewhat of a role. She very well could be the type of person to worry more about others than herself.

I've seen some speculate maybe some of her family relies on her financially and leaving the job would put a strain on that. Also goes back to her worrying about others more than herself.

It make sense to figure that Airi probably needs her job to help support her parents, but the thing people wonder about is why it has to be this job. With the way that she describes the black company it seems unlikely that they'd be willing to offer pay or benefits that are impossible to find elsewhere. The job market isn't great at the moment, but she seems to have been working at the black company for some time, and we know it drives her coworkers to quitting with regularity. Why hasn't she left before now?

 

[PekoWick]

I'm not saying anything it's just what I've heard. Everyone who had a room by the previous artist now has a new one. IE: Ame switched recently too. But people think there is more to it than just an artist swap, because the previous artist had criticized Gura for a lack of streams. People think there is a common link, like he said X so it's convenient that everyone which had a room designed by him suddenly has a new one.

Or maybe she just saw irys and bae room and like the quality of work.

Anyway these are some work of Hikosan

Lui room

Bae room

Towa's room
Miko's room

Im pretty sure hikosan is also the one who made Irys room, Subaru's room and most of Pekora's asset on stream.

 

[Godzilla1984]

Godspeed, you vodka elemental.

 

[Trap Supremacy]

Calli's new room has a different artist, which means every Holo who had a room by the previous artist (I forget their darn name, but they were called out for mocking Gura's lack of streaming) has moved on and probably wants nothing to do with the old artist. Some bandied form of "unity?" Or maybe they were blacklisted at corporate level for daring to talk ill of Gooba?

Well that's what people are saying anyway.

While I don't think ReNPC's anti-ism is necessarily connected to Mori using a different artist, I do feel it's worth preserving the context of why people are bringing him up in the first place.

So back in Hololive EN's early days, a certain fanartist started getting attention from the girls due to his talent and dedication. I think what drew Ame in was his whole "holoen MLP models" thing. Either way, Ren began to be contracted as a background artist for Ame and word about him spread through the company, leading to him being hired for some of Gura's backgrounds as well. This was pretty consistent from around the time of EN's debut to mid-2022.
Then something changed. He was starting to try and draw attention from some smaller creators - first it was Pippa, then Shondo. Shondo in particular quickly grabbed him by the balls and he went full Shondophile. Most of his art around late 2022 was just her specifically. If memory serves she was what kicked off him drawing straight-up loli porn.

Either way, while he was mostly a fan of Shondo, he still drew fanart of the HoloEN girls from time to time, usually Fauna or Ame. Then seemingly out of nowhere, on an alt account (since his main was banned at the time), he drew this. [a]

Spoiler: local archive

Per his own explanation, the art started as "a funny idea to start but now it just makes me feel sad for the little shrimp". But a number of chumbuds saw it as him straight-up mocking them, especially considering he did so directly on her art tag.

Fast forward to Gura's birthday, he tweets this in response to her tweet about it. [a]

Now, regardless of how you personally feel about mocking chumbuds and/or Gura, saying something like this on your main account towards a talent who formerly hired you just sounds bitter and disappointed, like he couldn't find an "in" with the talents (unlike, say DuDuL). So most people have speculated that he has been officially blacklisted, either for this tweet or (more likely) for the pic before.

Interestingly, he also seemed to have stopped drawing Pippa by mid-2022. Last thing he ever drew for her was a thing in december for a compliation video. My personal assumption is that his own obsession with Shondo has just overshadowed any potential work he could've gotten from his former clients. I've heard a few rrats about the fact that he's trying to genuinely groom Shondo too.

So it's been interesting to see his own slow degradation from being passionate about the Holos to full on indie-grooming. It's worth keeping an eye on him, since he draws a number of other 2view loli vtubers.

 

[Superduper Samurai]

Either way, it's interesting to see his own slow degradation from being passionate about the Holos to full on indie-grooming. It's worth keeping an eye on him, since he draws a number of other 2view loli vtubers as well.

Guy went from working with Hololive while still being relatively small and just doing shit for (at the time) small corpo creators like Pippa to being smug about gooba and trying to groom a schizophrenic 3 view indie

Lmao

 

[El Rrata]

trying to groom a schizophrenic 3 view indie

Has anyone invited him here, yet? Sounds like he would fit in.

 

[Henrik Carter]

While I don't think ReNPC's anti-ism is necessarily connected to Mori using a different artist, I do feel it's worth preserving the context of why people are bringing him up in the first place.

So back in Hololive EN's early days, a certain fanartist started getting attention from the girls due to his talent and dedication. I think what drew Ame in was his whole "holoen MLP models" thing. Either way, Ren began to be contracted as a background artist for Ame and word about him spread through the company, leading to him being hired for some of Gura's backgrounds as well. This was pretty consistent from around the time of EN's debut to mid-2022.
Then something changed. He was starting to try and draw attention from some smaller creators - first it was Pippa, then Shondo. Shondo in particular quickly grabbed him by the balls and he went full Shondophile. Most of his art around late 2022 was just her specifically. If memory serves she was what kicked off him drawing straight-up loli porn.

Either way, while he was mostly a fan of Shondo, he still drew fanart of the HoloEN girls from time to time, usually Fauna or Ame. Then seemingly out of nowhere, on an alt account (since his main was banned at the time), he drew this. [a]

Spoiler: local archive

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Per his own explanation, the art started as "a funny idea to start but now it just makes me feel sad for the little shrimp". But a number of chumbuds saw it as him straight-up mocking them, especially considering he did so directly on her art tag.

Fast forward to Gura's birthday, he tweets this in response to her tweet about it.

Now, regardless of how you personally feel about mocking chumbuds and/or Gura, saying something like this on your main account towards a talent who formerly hired you just sounds bitter and disappointed, like he couldn't find an "in" with the talents (unlike, say DuDuL). So most people have speculated that he has been officially blacklisted, either for this tweet or (more likely) for the pic before.

Interestingly, he also seemed to have stopped drawing Pippa by mid-2022. Last thing he ever drew for her was a thing in december for a compliation video. My personal assumption is that his own obsession with Shondo has just overshadowed any potential work he could've gotten from his former clients. I've heard a few rrats about the fact that he's trying to genuinely groom Shondo too.

So it's been interesting to see his own slow degradation from being passionate about the Holos to full on indie-grooming. It's worth keeping an eye on him, since he draws a number of other 2view loli vtubers.

Motherfucker had multiple good things going for him and a fully laid-out path right in front of him, and he fucking jumped off the bridge.

 

[Lazybug]

Shondophile

Do they really have to add phile to every loli chubas fan name ? They do this for panko too

 

[Tired Taxpayer]

It is interesting to see how people go full retard, in one hand there are people like Kanauru or Dudul that saw the laid-out path and worked on it and on the other side people like Holo Bass or this dude that jump from the bridge and also did a flip on the way down.

Edit: cute heavy metal alien birb doing a Q&A/marshmallow reading.

 

[God's Strongest Mozumite]

While I don't think ReNPC's anti-ism is necessarily connected to Mori using a different artist, I do feel it's worth preserving the context of why people are bringing him up in the first place.

So back in Hololive EN's early days, a certain fanartist started getting attention from the girls due to his talent and dedication. I think what drew Ame in was his whole "holoen MLP models" thing. Either way, Ren began to be contracted as a background artist for Ame and word about him spread through the company, leading to him being hired for some of Gura's backgrounds as well. This was pretty consistent from around the time of EN's debut to mid-2022.
Then something changed. He was starting to try and draw attention from some smaller creators - first it was Pippa, then Shondo. Shondo in particular quickly grabbed him by the balls and he went full Shondophile. Most of his art around late 2022 was just her specifically. If memory serves she was what kicked off him drawing straight-up loli porn.

Either way, while he was mostly a fan of Shondo, he still drew fanart of the HoloEN girls from time to time, usually Fauna or Ame. Then seemingly out of nowhere, on an alt account (since his main was banned at the time), he drew this. [a]

Spoiler: local archive

View attachment 32328

Per his own explanation, the art started as "a funny idea to start but now it just makes me feel sad for the little shrimp". But a number of chumbuds saw it as him straight-up mocking them, especially considering he did so directly on her art tag.

Fast forward to Gura's birthday, he tweets this in response to her tweet about it. [a]

Now, regardless of how you personally feel about mocking chumbuds and/or Gura, saying something like this on your main account towards a talent who formerly hired you just sounds bitter and disappointed, like he couldn't find an "in" with the talents (unlike, say DuDuL). So most people have speculated that he has been officially blacklisted, either for this tweet or (more likely) for the pic before.

Interestingly, he also seemed to have stopped drawing Pippa by mid-2022. Last thing he ever drew for her was a thing in december for a compliation video. My personal assumption is that his own obsession with Shondo has just overshadowed any potential work he could've gotten from his former clients. I've heard a few rrats about the fact that he's trying to genuinely groom Shondo too.

So it's been interesting to see his own slow degradation from being passionate about the Holos to full on indie-grooming. It's worth keeping an eye on him, since he draws a number of other 2view loli vtubers.

My takeaway is that Shondo is an evil witch who groomed a poor artist into throwing away his career and connections with the biggest vtuber agency just to draw ethically questionable pornography of her. How many more lives must she ruin until we do something about it?!?!

 

[Compressed jpg]

My takeaway is that Shondo is an evil witch who groomed a poor artist into throwing away his career and connections with the biggest vtuber agency just to draw ethically questionable pornography of her. How many more lives must she ruin until we do something about it?!?!

Female schizo magic ruins another man, many such cases.