General Vtuber Discussion (V1)

[BlueSharkTV]

Someone posted this on the kronii thread. EDIT: Another one

 

[soap suds]

Any of our more Nijifriendly bros want to give us their read on this? I know the existence of another non-Manager server has been kicked around a bit. I'm more surprised about seeing Selen as the outcast. I'm about 50/50 on my bullshit meter on this one, but I'd love to hear what the Niji-fans think.

I have heard little things here and there about a private server that managers are not in, and while I think that is definitely a thing that exists, management was totally notified that this stream was happening. Livers have gone on record saying that schedules have come out late or that the schedules have been switched around due to management. If what Millie has said is true, then this idea has been on the table for at least two weeks and has had ample time to be shot down if they thought it was a terrible idea.

As for the whole Selen is being left out shit, it mostly stems from the fact that Selen, and Obsydia in general, don't seem like the closest group of friends, and that there are obvious little cliques in EN. You have the whole Hanamori gang that is close together, and then you have Millie's little gaggle that includes her, Enna, Fulgur, and sometimes Kyo. People noticed that Selen is not in many of these little groups and that the only person she seems close with is Pomu. This created the rrat that she doesn't hang out with anyone in EN besides Pomu, which isolates her, and that the reason she only hangs out with Pomu is that no one else wants to be friends with her. This obviously isn't the case, cause she seems pretty close with NijiCanceled, they have talked about off-collabing and playing CAH offline, and others in the branch have talked about how nice and funny Selen is. Selen also takes on projects all the time, a problem she herself has noted she has, so maybe that explains why she isn't the most talkative person in the group chat, but she isn't isolated or an outcast.

 

[Scoots]

I have heard little things here and there about a private server that managers are not in, and while I think that is definitely a thing that exists, management was totally notified that this stream was happening. Livers have gone on record saying that schedules have come out late or that the schedules have been switched around due to management. If what Millie has said is true, then this idea has been on the table for at least two weeks and has had ample time to be shot down if they thought it was a terrible idea.

As for the whole Selen is being left out shit, it mostly stems from the fact that Selen, and Obsydia in general, don't seem like the closest group of friends, and that there are obvious little cliques in EN. You have the whole Hanamori gang that is close together, and then you have Millie's little gaggle that includes her, Enna, Fulgur, and sometimes Kyo. People noticed that Selen is not in many of these little groups and that the only person she seems close with is Pomu. This created the rrat that she doesn't hang out with anyone in EN besides Pomu, which isolates her, and that the reason she only hangs out with Pomu is that no one else wants to be friends with her. This obviously isn't the case, cause she seems pretty close with NijiCanceled, they have talked about off-collabing and playing CAH offline, and others in the branch have talked about how nice and funny Selen is. Selen also takes on projects all the time, a problem she herself has noted she has, so maybe that explains why she isn't the most talkative person in the group chat, but she isn't isolated or an outcast.

That said I wish Elira and Selen were more compatible. Not being able to consistently capitalize on the sibling rivalry dynamic is a missed opportunity how many times have they 1 on 1 collabed aside from that one Tetris stream a good while back?


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[Watamate]

Someone posted this on the kronii thread.
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Gave it a try myself. Missing a lot of laughs but I couldn't figure out how to add them.

 

[lakyus]

I don't see this as any more provocative or scandalous than "Off With Their Heads," which, as you may remember, made a whole bunch of unimportant people really angry for like two weeks a couple years ago.

My take on the whole thing, now that I understand what happened a bit more, is that it was a shitpost poking back at the haters at a similar level, and that it seemed to work and make so many people angry just proves its effectiveness. Props to Enna for daring to do it and I hope she doesn't get officially bonked for it.

If you check the threads right now, you'll find anons being a mixture of incredulous and laughing themselves mad at living rent-free in nijiENs heads. There's little to no anger present unless you count somewhat accurate observations that some of the stuff shitting on their co-workers didn't exactly come from the boards.

 

[agility_]

If there's one noteworthy lesson I took from the Pekora/Miko debacle, is that if you collaborate with someone and then move on to other projects, it obviously means you sexually assaulted your coworkers, laid waste to their IRL home and then swore an oath of never to talk to again. Think Michael Corleone in the godfather part 2; "I wanna know when you are coming, so I'm not there, I wanna know this in advance, so we never see each other".

 

[this shit]

On this thought, an interesting post floated through "Banned vTuber Memes"
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Any of our more Nijifriendly bros want to give us their read on this? I know the existence of another non-Manager server has been kicked around a bit. I'm more surprised about seeing Selen as the outcast. I'm about 50/50 on my bullshit meter on this one, but I'd love to hear what the Niji-fans think.

Loads of bullshit on a nickel of truth, the nickel being that they have a private discord server, the bullshit being that management is not involved in approving and monitoring the streams, especially collabs

 

[El Rrata]

Well, we will see about all this Vesper/Altare shit soon, I think. If he calls in, hopefully that dispells some rrats and doesn't just generate more.

 

[Scuddle]

On this thought, an interesting post floated through "Banned vTuber Memes"
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Any of our more Nijifriendly bros want to give us their read on this? I know the existence of another non-Manager server has been kicked around a bit. I'm more surprised about seeing Selen as the outcast. I'm about 50/50 on my bullshit meter on this one, but I'd love to hear what the Niji-fans think.

I think Millie is just retarded tbh. That's really the beginning and end of it for me.

I think Millie has had this idea of pretending to be anons shittalking them and the people who wanted in on the joke decided to participate. What she failed to consider was that not everyone in NijiEN participated and the anonymity of their own usernames caused people to speculate who said what - leading people to start misattributing thoughts of one person to a completely unrelated person.

It's not quite the same as Off With Their Heads or even Sasaki's Hated by the World parody because both of those addressed 'haters' and 2ch personally and didn't involve anyone else. This one did. And even though management no doubt gave clearance for this stream to happen, I wouldn't be surprised if they had no idea the things they were making fun of were the online equivalent of a rape whistle for /vt/ specifically and probably signed off on it being outlandish trolling.

I don't buy the Selen stuff though. It's a big leap in logic to say that the only realistic reason she isn't brain-dead enough to get involved in gossip and hornet's nest kicking is because she wasn't invited to a secret Discord.

 

[Scoots]

We finally have an actual reason
so apparently the reason Hime rarely streams is because she has trouble doing live content

 

[Kazuma]

Gavis and Flayon playing Cuphead.


Altare birthday stream.

 

[Sithis]

Gavis and Flayon playing Cuphead.


Altare birthday stream.

It makes me happy to see that Altare has some oil baron fujos in his community, man is getting absolutely drowned in donos and gifted memberships and the stream just started.

 

[El Rrata]

oil baron fujos

Oil baron, yes. Fujo, no. The guy has a literal Saudi prince as a whale lol

 

[Sithis]

Oil baron, yes. Fujo, no. The guy has a literal Saudi prince as a whale lol

Damn, the more you learn. I guess I can see how he'd have an appeal to a certain brand of penis havers as well lol but that's definitely the first time I've heard of a vtuber having that sort of whale

 

[Realticule]

We finally have an actual reason
so apparently the reason Hime rarely streams is because she has trouble doing live content

So she got the job because of her husband and youtube career as a porn reviewer and not because she could stream? Sounds about right for Vshojo.

 

[superduper]

Guys Wemi's live. Be there or be square.

"One time, this person decided to cut my lane two times and I followed him home to some random place. And I beat the bejesus out of him" - Wemi
Also on this stream, Wemi admitted to finding a cockroach in a bottle, filling that bottle with vodka, and setting the roach on fire.

 

[El Rrata]

Damn, the more you learn. I guess I can see how he'd have an appeal to a certain brand of penis havers as well lol but that's definitely the first time I've heard of a vtuber having that sort of whale

The whole "oiler/oil baron" meme actually started because Twitch has a lot of real middle eastern rich donators.

Also, Altare is not gonna do call-ins.

 

[lakyus]

I think Millie is just retarded tbh. That's really the beginning and end of it for me.

I think Millie has had this idea of pretending to be anons shittalking them and the people who wanted in on the joke decided to participate. What she failed to consider was that not everyone in NijiEN participated and the anonymity of their own usernames caused people to speculate who said what - leading people to start misattributing thoughts of one person to a completely unrelated person.

It's not quite the same as Off With Their Heads or even Sasaki's Hated by the World parody because both of those addressed 'haters' and 2ch personally and didn't involve anyone else. This one did. And even though management no doubt gave clearance for this stream to happen, I wouldn't be surprised if they had no idea the things they were making fun of were the online equivalent of a rape whistle for /vt/ specifically and probably signed off on it being outlandish trolling.

I don't buy the Selen stuff though. It's a big leap in logic to say that the only realistic reason she isn't brain-dead enough to get involved in gossip and hornet's nest kicking is because she wasn't invited to a secret Discord.

They really should not have included any speculations about real events and fellow livers. I said this before but it still serves no purpose at all.

At least this way there is a good reason to laugh at them:

 

[AyoTempus]

Well, we will see about all this Vesper/Altare shit soon, I think. If he calls in, hopefully that dispells some rrats and doesn't just generate more.

I remember Altare outright said a long while back (pre-Vesper suspension) that he doesn't want to do calls in because he is too introverted for it and he wants to do something else. Not sure exactly what that will be, but unless he changed his mind no call ins.

 

[Crush]

So she got the job because of her husband and youtube career as a porn reviewer and not because she could stream? Sounds about right for Vshojo.

Vshojo: Nepotism and Incompetence