General Vtuber Discussion (V1)

[gnz]

Chicken speedrunning JP offline collabs (now Choco + Mel). Maybe a dumb question but why didn't she collab more often in person when she was still in japan? Some KFP please lists all of her offcollab before she moved back to Europe, I'm too lazy to do it myself.

I guess mostly senpai-kouhai autism and that she moved from a tiny apartment to a rat-infested house and had technical difficulties in both, so she didn't want to host them herself.
She did offcollab with Subaru, Mori, Matsuri and Nene and met a few others without streaming it.

 

[Ｍｕｒｒａｙしないで]

On the subject of numberfriending and Phase-Connect, the sleepy dragon Utatane Nasa, PC's least-subbed member, finally hit 10k subs. She'll apparently be doing an endurance stream to celebrate.



When reached for comment, Sakana responded, "We have a JP branch? Oh, shit, that's right."

 

[Rednax]

There used to be a time when Pekora collabed with Nekomiya Hinata. Pekoras laugh used to get special attention by clippers and using all sorts of arrows and images to showcase it.

Spoiler: Bonus 3D clip

 

[The Peanut Gallery]

Kaela playing omnibus

 

[agility_]

They really need to stop trying to compete with Tiktok.

How else do you get the attention of kids on their phones 25/8.

 

[Empty_Inbox]

I will drop Tempus VG Josuji Shinri zatsudans for like a month. So far 3 out of 3 felt underwhelming. Specific point of today's zatsu and a final one for me was a lack of context.

He just started talking about the game he played (Night Delivery I believe), and went on and on about the lore "oh, do you think those letters were from the mother?", "yeah, the fridge!" and so on. Game is not interesting to me at all, and 25 minutes of it just to tell later "I will not be playing more of it, even if there are different endings" is too much. I guess he couldn't talk about the game when he was playing it because of time limitations forced by management? I was not aware I was supposed to watch his previous stream to enjoy the zatsu.

Vesper was talking about a lot of games, the ones he streamed and the ones he didn't, but I never felt bored listening to him. Maybe it was his focus on the gameplay, maybe those "Zatsudan Rules" he made for himself are that important, but whatever Vesper has, Shinri severely lacks at the moment. It was a horrible idea to compare them.

Other than that, today's zatsu had:

• Other horror games for future - all boring for me
• He worked Customer Service, it was tough - less than a minute of overall zatsu, no details
• He and the chat discussed fan names, koi puns
• His hashtags, going live tag and so on - he was stressing himself to come up with everything himself, to have full package for debut. Was not aware that chat helped OG boys with some of that
• Aia Amare from Nijisanji EN was in the chat, encouraging him
• He is trusting chat to help him if he brings up something not fully "cooked" in the future
• "I will break down and cry during games, be ready". Apparently growing up he was told to not show any emotions, so for a long time he was repressing them. He worked hard recently to allow himself to be emotional
• He is going to ask for sad games recommendations
• The reason for this timeslot for streams is because he will be aiming for this time when the regular streams will come

He raided Regis Altare

 

[masterstocking]

Comment on the news article says this news segment was aired on NHK in May of 2020. She confirmed it in her recent [stream] comments:
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Also, Vesper Noir is having tech difficulties, will do Twitter space instead of a stream:

Man has an uncooperative computer, a temper and a spear. I can't imagine they'll find the computer ever again, save that it might be buried near some rice containers...

 

[Horo7618]

Rin attacking her management in public. Suspension surely incoming.....

 

[Netscaper]

Man has an uncooperative computer, a temper and a spear. I can't imagine they'll find the computer ever again, save that it might be buried near some rice containers...

I will spearhead the "Vesper the Impaler, blight of computerkind" moniker.

Sorry, lack of Ina did a number on me.

 

[agility_]

Gastrointestinal idol Misumi has been playing katamari for nearly 4 hours

 

[AyoTempus]

Is it gay to eat Pizza with your bro's?

Why eat pizza with anyone? Just eat it on your bed by yourself.

I will drop Tempus VG Josuji Shinri zatsudans for like a month. So far 3 out of 3 felt underwhelming. Specific point of today's zatsu and a final one for me was a lack of context.

He just started talking about the game he played (Night Delivery I believe), and went on and on about the lore "oh, do you think those letters were from the mother?", "yeah, the fridge!" and so on. Game is not interesting to me at all, and 25 minutes of it just to tell later "I will not be playing more of it, even if there are different endings" is too much. I guess he couldn't talk about the game when he was playing it because of time limitations forced by management? I was not aware I was supposed to watch his previous stream to enjoy the zatsu.

Vesper was talking about a lot of games, the ones he streamed and the ones he didn't, but I never felt bored listening to him. Maybe it was his focus on the gameplay, maybe those "Zatsudan Rules" he made for himself are that important, but whatever Vesper has, Shinri severely lacks at the moment. It was a horrible idea to compare them.

Other than that, today's zatsu had:

• Other horror games for future - all boring for me
• He worked Customer Service, it was tough - less than a minute of overall zatsu, no details
• He and the chat discussed fan names, koi puns
• His hashtags, going live tag and so on - he was stressing himself to come up with everything himself, to have full package for debut. Was not aware that chat helped OG boys with some of that
• Aia Amare from Nijisanji EN was in the chat, encouraging him
• He is trusting chat to help him if he brings up something not fully "cooked" in the future
• "I will break down and cry during games, be ready". Apparently growing up he was told to not show any emotions, so for a long time he was repressing them. He worked hard recently to allow himself to be emotional
• He is going to ask for sad games recommendations
• The reason for this timeslot for streams is because he will be aiming for this time when the regular streams will come

He raided Regis Altare

The thing I get from Shinri is he seems like a pretty touchy feely kind of guy and tends to focus on internal and personal emotions, he likes looking inwards on a more emotional level and expressing himself that way likely due to the upbringing you cited. So how well you vibe with him probably depends on how well you can understand him I think.

Like for example, his second zatsu he talked about photos and how he likes to be behind the camera because it helps me align with that memory, which makes sense because his memory is garbage and in his brain the physical memory of taking the photo alongside the scene itself helps him remember. I have some pretty rough memory issues so I could really vibe with him on that level, especially when he explained how he "organizes" his room and how he forgets things until he sees them again. He feels like he appeals to pretty emotional people who want to either find someone who understands what they go through, or those who enjoy receiving people's emotions to understand other people.

Vesper I find is far more analytical and looks beyond his personal feelings while having a lot of personal stories he goes into, while Shinri seems to be almost the opposite he feels like a more abstract Vesper if I had to put it simply from these few hours I've seen him solely talk.

Regarding him talking about the game he played last night I'd imagine that he probably meditated on the game and his experiences with it which is why he talked about it after playing it and not during it, which makes sense for someone like him who seems to like to reflect on his emotions and then express them. To my understanding from the handful of clips I've seen of his horror stuff, he tends to casually talk about other things as he plays too, as opposed to focusing on the game. This man feels like an almost 24/7 zatsu while he's on stream from what I can tell due to what he plays and how he plays them where he just chatters on and on. Man shows little fear at all, so it is easy for him to just talk forever.

He feels radically different from Vesper beyond the fact that he's older, I can see how he appeals to people but it seems to vary on how much you can unironically vibe with him. Vesper is also much funnier by himself I feel, his voice just works better for comedy while Shinri's voice is too deep and soft unless he's being a smartass like in the Ultimate Chicken Horse collab.

 

[paul]

I don't think someone posted Dez's interpretation of Tempus Vanguard yet, it's very accurate

Also I don't know if the comment from his latest Prey stream was a shitpost but Altare's reaction is really wholesome

 

[God's Strongest Mozumite]

Sava live, Sava love!


EDIT: "I hate journalists" - Sava Safari, 2023

 

[AyoTempus]

Also I don't know if the comment from his latest Prey stream was a shitpost but Altare's reaction is really wholesome

Altare from what I've seen is a pretty wholesome guy who tends to take his job as a streamer serious enough to generally try and be positive the entire time. He talked during his last FFXIV stream about how he received a bad infection when he was a kid, and while he was in the hospital in pain and discomfort the hospital would bring out a Nintendo 64 and Gameboys for children to play with to help them through their stay.

He said how because of that experience he streams to achieve a similar effect, saying that even if people think he's cringe, think his voice sucks, or whatever as long as someone feels happier during his stream then he's content with that. That's why, in his words anyway, he acts the way he does sometimes where he just goes over the top or does funny voices.

This is coming from the former toxic gamer who screams about Shaco from League of Legends.

 

[NeneHATE]

The question is; what's the ROI? Can you even donate to a short? What's the correlation between subs gained by shortposting and donation increases based on sub count, compared to donations on a comparable sub count grown purely by streaming?

I feel a lot of people mistake pure sub growth for revenue generation. I'd really like to get actual numbers and a statistical analysis going on this kind of stuff.

The real best example of this is Shiki Miyoshino from PRISM. She played the Shorts game HARD when she started mid 2021.
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She had a monstrous 100k+ subs pretty quickly, but that really amounted to empty subs with not much follow up. As of now, she struggles to pull more than 150 CCV on any given stream.
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Meanwhile, compare this to Pippa who has just ground like crazy and only recently started supplementing her already existing viewerbase with Shorts
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Realistically, I think Youtube has made a mistake putting so much emphasis on shorts. It doesn't really seem to do much for a channel unless it already has a decent community already built. They really need to stop trying to compete with Tiktok.

I feel like the people who watch shorts are usually not the same people who will sit around to watch a 2-hour stream, whatever growth you get from them is just empty subs who won't contribute much to CCV or donos, one interesting thing about pippa is that she has massive CCV for her size but comparatively low average viewcounts, which probably means a smaller but very dedicated audience.

Weakest American Fatty vs Strongest Japanese Titty Demon

I can't believe mori violated noel's pussy on stream

 

[Kalion]

Neuro-sama has been temp-banned from Twitch for unknown reasons.

Spoiler: Tweet image

Someone check if Henri is okay.

 

[El Rrata]

Also I don't know if the comment from his latest Prey stream was a shitpost but Altare's reaction is really wholesome

And then he redirected that person with the chat into Magni, who was larping as a French person and drawing in Family Guy style.

 

[The Proctor]

Sava live, Sava love!

EDIT: "I hate journalists" - Sava Safari, 2023

Morning media: Thomas Sowell.

Evening media: Soap-eating cat.

 

[DanchousLoyalHamu]

Luna being an onee-san off-stream huh…..thats unexpected I honestly expected her to be more PON off stream.


Also A M E ‘ S E G G

 

[Superduper Samurai]

Lmao Rin Penrose is doing a bit where she apologizes tearfully about a stream delay or some shit, so people are still bullying her with money


Honestly she is one of the best small corpo pick-ups ive seen, if Idol-EN doesnt catch on and she graduates to bigger pastures i can see her being fucking massive