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General Thread v5 Guys: MariMari_EN Edition

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dkn2038

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Evil sang Ash again
an awful spanish AI voice was translating it for me...

LEAVE MY CUTE AI ALONE, OLD HAG TRANSLATOR AI
 

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I don’t have much to comment on Sayu apart from what’s already been talked about here, so let’s check on Sayu’s strongest soldier.


Just cause i remembered, though i dont believe she touched on it again since her 2.0 debut in Noa, she had this bit of ambitious project to have all her models also telling stories with. Like the tomboy thief was supposed to be set into the future, while the full android (what she came in as with Noa) was supposed to be set in the far future trying to learn about the past from her chat. From what i remember she was wanting to have comic panels and jsut in general lore but i get the feeling she abandoned that quickly, or Noa didnt have the recourses to even try to do any of that.

really she could have tried smaller but i doubt she want to try it now. :optimistic:
"Phase can offer me nothing I don't already have" is 100% BS talk
She lacks so much shit that Phase can do for her.
What I think happened is that she's also doing negotiation with NOA at the same time and they offered a better cut and also make outlandish promises that noone can really keep like debutting 10 vtubers specifically chosen by her or something
Meanwhile fishman offered her the basic Phase contract and tells her what they can actually offer and told her no we are not hiring 10 fucking vtubers for you.
 

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"Phase can offer me nothing I don't already have" is 100% BS talk
She lacks so much shit that Phase can do for her.
What I think happened is that she's also doing negotiation with NOA at the same time and they offered a better cut and also make outlandish promises that noone can really keep like debutting 10 vtubers specifically chosen by her or something
Meanwhile fishman offered her the basic Phase contract and tells her what they can actually offer and told her no we are not hiring 10 fucking vtubers for you.
I am like 90% sure the make or break part was her keeping her IP and team, which NOA let her do, and Fish presumably didn't.
 

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Just cause i remembered, though i dont believe she touched on it again since her 2.0 debut in Noa, she had this bit of ambitious project to have all her models also telling stories with. Like the tomboy thief was supposed to be set into the future, while the full android (what she came in as with Noa) was supposed to be set in the far future trying to learn about the past from her chat. From what i remember she was wanting to have comic panels and jsut in general lore but i get the feeling she abandoned that quickly, or Noa didnt have the recourses to even try to do any of that.

really she could have tried smaller but i doubt she want to try it now. :optimistic:
That honestly sounds kinda retarded
This sounds better for some sort of comic or a vidya event like ENreco or a minecraft SMP
Who in the fuck cares about the lore of a chuuba??

I think the only time ive personally seen a chuuba try to have onstream lore was that fag Vox Akuma pretending being sick in the leadup to his true demon or his gay samurai outift or some shit, and the fujos in his fanbase took it so seriously they actually panicked thinking he was sick
 

Egg the Boiled

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I am like 90% sure the make or break part was her keeping her IP and team, which NOA let her do, and Fish presumably didn't.
Sakana has stated before that he's fine with organising for invaders to keep their IP in one of the Dizzy interviews. I assumed now that we have Mari people wouldn't keep claiming that IP issues are the cause.

The only reason Yuri didn't keep her IP is because she chose not to.
 

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"Phase can offer me nothing I don't already have" is 100% BS talk
She lacks so much shit that Phase can do for her.
What I think happened is that she's also doing negotiation with NOA at the same time and they offered a better cut and also make outlandish promises that noone can really keep like debutting 10 vtubers specifically chosen by her or something
Meanwhile fishman offered her the basic Phase contract and tells her what they can actually offer and told her no we are not hiring 10 fucking vtubers for you.
The timeline does seemingly fit the idea that her talks with Noa and Phase were going on at roughly the same time.

As to "what Phase could offer" - well, the answer is rather obvious considering Sayu's own repeated musings on the matter: genuine companionship that she craves so much, for starters.
 

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That honestly sounds kinda retarded
This sounds better for some sort of comic or a vidya event like ENreco or a minecraft SMP
Who in the fuck cares about the lore of a chuuba??
i think that kind of what she wanted to do like Enreco and just have a continuing story to tell, but obviously went no where.
 

dkn2038

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Sakana has stated before that he's fine with organising for invaders to keep their IP in one of the Dizzy interviews. I assumed now that we have Mari people wouldn't keep claiming that IP issues are the cause.

The only reason Yuri didn't keep her IP is because she chose not to.

I'm sure there's risk assessment behind, the smart ones like clio or hyper retarded like marimari underscore EN aren't a problem

the problem exists when someone is retarded enough to burn such a good opportunity and smart enough to find a way to do it
 

ZerroDefex

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The only reason Yuri didn't keep her IP is because she chose not to.
Weren't Lumi and Yuri both bought out from CyberLive? Did she ever own her IP at any point?
 

Egg the Boiled

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Weren't Lumi and Yuri both bought out from CyberLive? Did she ever own her IP at any point?
They were independent for a while. Not for long, but originally they left on their own.
 

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The timeline does seemingly fit the idea that her talks with Noa and Phase were going on at roughly the same time.

As to "what Phase could offer" - well, the answer is rather obvious considering Sayu's own repeated musings on the matter: genuine companionship that she craves so much, for starters.
Ironic
NOA gave her the caveat she wanted but not the friendship she craved
 

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I am like 90% sure the make or break part was her keeping her IP and team, which NOA let her do, and Fish presumably didn't.
I wonder if missing this opportunity made him change his mind or if it was the Selen Nuke changing the landscape and forcing him to adapt. I think it was the later but I can see how losing a girlfailure that somehow was a succesful 4view (in terms of revenue), at the time, above his own talents, instigated some self-reflection.
I was watching other stuff. Did Clio, Mari and Sleepy say anything about their IP during their debuts or the aftertalk?
The only reason Yuri didn't keep her IP is because she chose not to.
Did her or Sakana state this? Was it for free or did she chose not to [buy] it back from Phase?
As to "what Phase could offer" - well, the answer is rather obvious considering Sayu's own repeated musings on the matter: genuine companionship that she craves so much, for starters.
You know some (if not many) would walk over her just as easily there as well. Very hard to find people patient enough to deal with rugs without self-interest.
 

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Did her or Sakana state this? Was it for free or did she chose not to [buy] it back from Phase?
Its a rrat/conjecture that she sold the IP in exchange for Phase financing her angel model
 

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Damn this fucker is from the future, get him! The debuts are tomorrow
I forgot timezones exist, sorry. :guradumbl:
Its a rrat/conjecture that she sold the IP in exchange for Phase financing her angel model
That makes sense. Being terminated from Phase that holds respect from the masses would be a bad rep anyway, better to cut it off.
 

Egg the Boiled

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Did her or Sakana state this? Was it for free or did she chose not to [buy] it back from Phase?
Not outright, I'll admit it's just conjecture. Yuri rebranded again after becoming a rabbit and mentioned wanting to keep a smaller audience, so I assumed it was a personal choice, but I suppose the rrat where she sold it makes sense too.
 

Banana Hammock

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Sayu is in luck, I keep hearing of this "indie master race" that is definitely gonna take off this year, yes sir, this is the time. I think she'll do swimmingly without NOA.
Sayu seems to get pretty good numbers on Twitch, and her YT isn't bad either. I don't know what her donations, membership, or merch sales look like, though. Unless NOA botted their talents?
 

Helkar

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Sayu seems to get pretty good numbers on Twitch, and her YT isn't bad either. I don't know what her donations, membership, or merch sales look like, though. Unless NOA botted their talents?
She had high 3view/low 4view nooombers before joining up with NOA.
Her problem is that she desperately wants "to belong", to be a part of something, just being a successful indie isn't enough.
 
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