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General Thread v3: The Hexagone

Nenélove

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All 27 categories?
Vote VSPOs Yuuhi for Moba. Vote Clio for strategy game. Azumalin for the get off your ass award. VCR for content org. Pekora for international streamer. Raden for breakout star. Filian for the sapphire award.
No vtuber is gonna win anything other than the vtuber category, stop dreaming. Ironlung is gonna win vtuber and the rest will be taken by fleshies with way bigger audiences, maybe a (((vtuber))) like CyYu or Codemiko wins something else but you will never see even a Holo in there, and if Holos can't win then the rest of the industry has no fucking chance in hell.

These things are POPULARITY contests after all. Vtubing is still niche as hell no matter how much people wanna cope about it.
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

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No vtuber is gonna win anything other than the vtuber category, stop dreaming. Ironlung is gonna win vtuber and the rest will be taken by fleshies with way bigger audiences, maybe a (((vtuber))) like CyYu or Codemiko wins something else but you will never see even a Holo in there, and if Holos can't win then the rest of the industry has no fucking chance in hell.

These things are POPULARITY contests after all.
This is a twitch clique JO session to give credibility to themselves.
 

Horo7618

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Joined:  Sep 12, 2022
Doki & Doobie talking on discord confirmed!!*

:nenedance:

They may collab, but not soon....
*) Doki's current COD stream
 

JellyKusa

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Lil correction: lately Kiara confirmed, that jenma isn't her manager anymore and ponma took over.

Also I personally think Kiara really feels the effects of not moving to Japan. Especially now that she has concrete examples with the rat and Bau baus.
Not quite, last time she reported, Kiara is still managed by Jenma and Ponma, (80:20 for Ponma), but its not the first time Jenma has to step back for a while and another Manager steps in for the day-to-day stuff, but she will come back. And even if not, Kiara still remains Jenmas favorite child.

Also, the topic of moving to Japan or not is a really complicated one for Kiara. But despite the obvious benefits for her career in Hololive as an Idol, she still says that she is glad that she didn't move back to Japan. Yeah, Holos in Japan get included in more stuff and Kiara has to travel a lot to be able to participate and also unlike HoloID or HoloJP she can't just casually hang out with Holomems offstream. But still, as someone who has watched her since 2020, I can safely say that she has never been as mentally stable as the current year. Her occasional women moments are just that, women moments. She also carries unresolved mental baggage more than a decade old, but she doesn't believe in doctors or shrinks, so the woman moments are here to stay.

Kiara bought a house with a garden early this year. She dreams of muscle cars, mowing the lawn and having grill parties with friends in the summer. She is on her boomermaxing arc. She wouldn't have bought a house if she still had doubts about "maybe still trying out living in Japan one more time". Most importantly, she has her cats. A worryingly big deal of her mental is reliant on the presence and well-being of her cats. I don't think it's very healthy to outsource that much of her mental stability onto frail pets, but well, the choice seems to be that or just being a menhera all day. She did say that as long as her cats live, she won't even consider moving back to Japan. Ofc, it would be possible to take her cats with her, but she fears that the sheer stress of airplane travel might kill them or just permanently traumatize them or something. She would rather not risk it.
Her cats are fine where she is and she is fine where her cats are. It might be stressful to fly almost every month of the year to Japan, but she would rather do that than risk her cats having to do it.
Also, she besides her cats, she does have a fairly solid social circle here, both friends and family. She is close to her mom, sees her every few weeks, as well as her older brother (he also moved to Vienna for work).
Recently, she even reconnected with her older Half-sister (they will have a girls spa weekend soon) and even saw her dad for the first time in 14 years. He is basically a stranger to her, but it was he who tried to reconnect with her (through her mother) and she found that he, too, is just a regular guy. Turns out that he isn't really a deadbeat after all, he's just a hardcore normie and could not keep up with how based Mamatori was. But there doesn't seem to be bad blood between them. Kiara seems willing to try to get to know her dad better as well. She is over her teenage rebellious rejection of her father.
Mamatori already told him what her job is (I wonder how many people mamatori is just casually doxxing Kiara to) and he asked her "Are you anime?". His son is a weeb (because its cool now) so he isnt a complete stranger to anime.

She also got a small, but seemingly solid friend circle with BFF, RBF, RMT, PM+GF. And another one that overlaps just a bit, consisting of friends she seems to almost only meet at conventions or cosplay events. And when I listen to some other Holos, it does seem like a lot of them lack a friend group outside of other Holomems or streamers. And I think Kiara having one is very important and definitely not something she should give up.

In conclusion, I think Kiara is good where is rn and I think she would agree with me.


 

RestlessRain

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Vtubing is still niche as hell no matter how much people wanna cope about it.
Vtubing being niche is great, helps keep most of the tourists and leeches away and shit's still actually entertaining.
 

Todd's Strongest Howard

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Nenélove

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even saw her dad for the first time in 14 years. He is basically a stranger to her, but it was he who tried to reconnect with her (through her mother) and she found that he, too, is just a regular guy. Turns out that he isn't really a deadbeat after all, he's just a hardcore normie and could not keep up with how based Mamatori was. But there doesn't seem to be bad blood between them. Kiara seems willing to try to get to know her dad better as well. She is over her teenage rebellious rejection of her father.
That is honestly really sweet. Not having a father makes children directionless and lacking in discipline, being distant from one of your parents will always make you feel rejected even if you don't want to admit it.
 

TKN_Lurker

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Have a clip of Fuwamoco managing to ace the cookie prefecture challenge better than some JP members can.
 

JellyKusa

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That is honestly really sweet. Not having a father makes children directionless and lacking in discipline, being distant from one of your parents will always make you feel rejected even if you don't want to admit it.
in kfp it has been a reoccurring joke since 2020 that Kiara got daddy issues
Ever since a doctor somehow looked at her back pain and diagnosed her with daddy issues
Maybe her back pain will heal too now 🌈🌈
 

Kazuma

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Bae is playing Nier: Automata


Doob is doing a test stream
 

El Rrata

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Poyoyo & Jill

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Doki & Doobie talking on discord confirmed!!*

:nenedance:

They may collab, but not soon....
*) Doki's current COD stream
No surprises here: literally the only Niji she even collabed with
No what I think it is was me misremembering the name Sukuna from JJK.
Her Name its just a twist of the Female Protagonist of SAO
Not quite, last time she reported, Kiara is still managed by Jenma and Ponma, (80:20 for Ponma), but its not the first time Jenma has to step back for a while and another Manager steps in for the day-to-day stuff, but she will come back. And even if not, Kiara still remains Jenmas favorite child.

Also, the topic of moving to Japan or not is a really complicated one for Kiara. But despite the obvious benefits for her career in Hololive as an Idol, she still says that she is glad that she didn't move back to Japan. Yeah, Holos in Japan get included in more stuff and Kiara has to travel a lot to be able to participate and also unlike HoloID or HoloJP she can't just casually hang out with Holomems offstream. But still, as someone who has watched her since 2020, I can safely say that she has never been as mentally stable as the current year. Her occasional women moments are just that, women moments. She also carries unresolved mental baggage more than a decade old, but she doesn't believe in doctors or shrinks, so the woman moments are here to stay.

Kiara bought a house with a garden early this year. She dreams of muscle cars, mowing the lawn and having grill parties with friends in the summer. She is on her boomermaxing arc. She wouldn't have bought a house if she still had doubts about "maybe still trying out living in Japan one more time". Most importantly, she has her cats. A worryingly big deal of her mental is reliant on the presence and well-being of her cats. I don't think it's very healthy to outsource that much of her mental stability onto frail pets, but well, the choice seems to be that or just being a menhera all day. She did say that as long as her cats live, she won't even consider moving back to Japan. Ofc, it would be possible to take her cats with her, but she fears that the sheer stress of airplane travel might kill them or just permanently traumatize them or something. She would rather not risk it.
Her cats are fine where she is and she is fine where her cats are. It might be stressful to fly almost every month of the year to Japan, but she would rather do that than risk her cats having to do it.
Also, she besides her cats, she does have a fairly solid social circle here, both friends and family. She is close to her mom, sees her every few weeks, as well as her older brother (he also moved to Vienna for work).
Recently, she even reconnected with her older Half-sister (they will have a girls spa weekend soon) and even saw her dad for the first time in 14 years. He is basically a stranger to her, but it was he who tried to reconnect with her (through her mother) and she found that he, too, is just a regular guy. Turns out that he isn't really a deadbeat after all, he's just a hardcore normie and could not keep up with how based Mamatori was. But there doesn't seem to be bad blood between them. Kiara seems willing to try to get to know her dad better as well. She is over her teenage rebellious rejection of her father.
Mamatori already told him what her job is (I wonder how many people mamatori is just casually doxxing Kiara to) and he asked her "Are you anime?". His son is a weeb (because its cool now) so he isnt a complete stranger to anime.

She also got a small, but seemingly solid friend circle with BFF, RBF, RMT, PM+GF. And another one that overlaps just a bit, consisting of friends she seems to almost only meet at conventions or cosplay events. And when I listen to some other Holos, it does seem like a lot of them lack a friend group outside of other Holomems or streamers. And I think Kiara having one is very important and definitely not something she should give up.

In conclusion, I think Kiara is good where is rn and I think she would agree with me.



I totally get Orange Woman here
I love my two cats (one mother and her son) too much to risk them to anything
 

Not-Username

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Not quite, last time she reported, Kiara is still managed by Jenma and Ponma, (80:20 for Ponma), but its not the first time Jenma has to step back for a while and another Manager steps in for the day-to-day stuff, but she will come back. And even if not, Kiara still remains Jenmas favorite child.

Also, the topic of moving to Japan or not is a really complicated one for Kiara. But despite the obvious benefits for her career in Hololive as an Idol, she still says that she is glad that she didn't move back to Japan. Yeah, Holos in Japan get included in more stuff and Kiara has to travel a lot to be able to participate and also unlike HoloID or HoloJP she can't just casually hang out with Holomems offstream. But still, as someone who has watched her since 2020, I can safely say that she has never been as mentally stable as the current year. Her occasional women moments are just that, women moments. She also carries unresolved mental baggage more than a decade old, but she doesn't believe in doctors or shrinks, so the woman moments are here to stay.

Kiara bought a house with a garden early this year. She dreams of muscle cars, mowing the lawn and having grill parties with friends in the summer. She is on her boomermaxing arc. She wouldn't have bought a house if she still had doubts about "maybe still trying out living in Japan one more time". Most importantly, she has her cats. A worryingly big deal of her mental is reliant on the presence and well-being of her cats. I don't think it's very healthy to outsource that much of her mental stability onto frail pets, but well, the choice seems to be that or just being a menhera all day. She did say that as long as her cats live, she won't even consider moving back to Japan. Ofc, it would be possible to take her cats with her, but she fears that the sheer stress of airplane travel might kill them or just permanently traumatize them or something. She would rather not risk it.
Her cats are fine where she is and she is fine where her cats are. It might be stressful to fly almost every month of the year to Japan, but she would rather do that than risk her cats having to do it.
Also, she besides her cats, she does have a fairly solid social circle here, both friends and family. She is close to her mom, sees her every few weeks, as well as her older brother (he also moved to Vienna for work).
Recently, she even reconnected with her older Half-sister (they will have a girls spa weekend soon) and even saw her dad for the first time in 14 years. He is basically a stranger to her, but it was he who tried to reconnect with her (through her mother) and she found that he, too, is just a regular guy. Turns out that he isn't really a deadbeat after all, he's just a hardcore normie and could not keep up with how based Mamatori was. But there doesn't seem to be bad blood between them. Kiara seems willing to try to get to know her dad better as well. She is over her teenage rebellious rejection of her father.
Mamatori already told him what her job is (I wonder how many people mamatori is just casually doxxing Kiara to) and he asked her "Are you anime?". His son is a weeb (because its cool now) so he isnt a complete stranger to anime.

She also got a small, but seemingly solid friend circle with BFF, RBF, RMT, PM+GF. And another one that overlaps just a bit, consisting of friends she seems to almost only meet at conventions or cosplay events. And when I listen to some other Holos, it does seem like a lot of them lack a friend group outside of other Holomems or streamers. And I think Kiara having one is very important and definitely not something she should give up.

In conclusion, I think Kiara is good where is rn and I think she would agree with me.



Oh I fully agree with you. I'm just saying that the women moments come from some realizations about opportunities and maybe even inner holo friend circles. Otherwise it wouldn't be "not irl" and "long time fear".
She will get over it as usual, no doubt.
 

El Rrata

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Lee Crabb

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I don't see any potential invaders, but I do see Danganrompa Eimi and carfucker Iori.
 

JusticeDog

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Muyu, the cow, dressed as a cow lol:fishfry:
 

nooternun

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No vtuber is gonna win anything other than the vtuber category, stop dreaming. Ironlung is gonna win vtuber and the rest will be taken by fleshies with way bigger audiences, maybe a (((vtuber))) like CyYu or Codemiko wins something else but you will never see even a Holo in there, and if Holos can't win then the rest of the industry has no fucking chance in hell.

These things are POPULARITY contests after all. Vtubing is still niche as hell no matter how much people wanna cope about it.
Fair. I did think this was the Fillian award show instead. Still, just having someone get acknowledged would do wonders even if they dont win. I want an EN moment like Raden on NHK morning.


Maybe I should be preaching to 2chan instead. Anyone wanna write, "please vote to strike fear in the Gaijins" for me in Japanese?
 

El Rrata

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Fair. I did think this was the Fillian award show instead. Still, just having someone get acknowledged would do wonders even if they dont win. I want an EN moment like Raden on NHK morning.


Maybe I should be preaching to 2chan instead. Anyone wanna write, "please vote to strike fear in the Gaijins" for me in Japanese?
Problem is, JP can't even win the Fillian awards, though hers were a lot better than these. Even then, hers were heavily skewed towards holoEN just by sheer popularity.
 

Nenélove

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Fair. I did think this was the Fillian award show instead. Still, just having someone get acknowledged would do wonders even if they dont win. I want an EN moment like Raden on NHK morning.
You have to consider that JP vtubing is way, WAY, more popular in its market than EN vtubing. In Japan vtubers have reached the status of small time celebrities, their concerts gets tens of thousands to watch and the merch is sold absolutely everywhere. In the west vtubers are sort of a novelty that many still write off as "just streamers with a gimmick" (which a lot of EN vtubers do not fucking help to dispel) and it sorta just gets lumped in with all of the other cringy weeb shit.

If this was a japanese streamers award then you can bet some vtubers would make it into different categories for sure.
Problem is, JP can't even win the Fillian awards, though hers were a lot better than these. Even then, hers were heavily skewed towards holoEN just by sheer popularity.
Was there even a japanese language option for the site or any social media posts about it directed at nips? That award was basically EN (massive twitch bias) vtubers only. I honestly hope they rectify that, for wanting "as many creators to get featured" you sure are excluding the BY FAR largest segment of the industry. What about Korean vtubers or SEA vtubers or chinese vtubers (+taiwan and singapore)? Those are all pretty large sections of the industry too and they'd probably vote for local favorites that have no chance otherwise.

Also happy 420 pages
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The Scream Guy

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You have to consider that JP vtubing is way, WAY, more popular in its market than EN vtubing. In Japan vtubers have reached the status of small time celebrities, their concerts gets tens of thousands to watch and the merch is sold absolutely everywhere. In the west vtubers are sort of a novelty that many still write off as "just streamers with a gimmick" (which a lot of EN vtubers do not fucking help to dispel) and it sorta just gets lumped in with all of the other cringy weeb shit.

If this was a japanese streamers award then you can bet some vtubers would make it into different categories for sure.

Was there even a japanese language option for the site or any social media posts about it directed at nips? That award was basically EN (massive twitch bias) vtubers only. I honestly hope they rectify that, for wanting "as many creators to get featured" you sure are excluding the BY FAR largest segment of the industry. What about Korean vtubers or SEA vtubers or chinese vtubers (+taiwan and singapore)? Those are all pretty large sections of the industry too and they'd probably vote for local favorites that have no chance otherwise.

Also happy 420 pages
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Dooby smoking that pack on Cover's 3D tracking department. That's why she's the goat- er Jerboa
 
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