Election Spergery 2024 Containment Zone

[Bronze]

I agree with your point, which is exactly why I said already discovered PL accounts. If Clara (or any other vtuber for that matter) chose to lock their account and scream into the void, none of this would be an issue barring someone in their inner circle leaking shit. This is not such a case, and if Sakana takes his idol dream seriously, the best thing to do is make them keep their political outbursts in private discords or other completely private social media accounts.

You can at best recommend it. The ideal option is talents doing it to each other so you won't have to essentially threaten your talent with not renewing contract, because that's what it will sound like if you pressure further

She'll get convinced with FACTS AND LOGIC™

on internet? Lol, lmao even

 

[Panopticon]

Likely in relation to this:



Isn't it weird seeing a French be more sane and decent than most people?

She's french. That's not whorishness, that's just the factory default setting. Practically everything that they do gets smeered with a lair of sex just by being in proximity to them.

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

Okay so, one moment to add regarding clippers, just something i found interesting, is that Clara clips have basically dissipated compared to her first 4-6 months in the company.
The clippers who got quite a lot of traction frequently clipping her in the spring have either went on hiatus(Phase Pilled, personal shit from what i gather, but even before going dark he started clipping Clara way less) or switched to different people(RVE, on record saying "you can just tune into a Clara stream at any point in time, listen for two minutes and boom, you got a clip", is now exclusively a Jelly clipper).
Just an interesting dynamic that i can't really explain.

There is Sourcebird who clipped her like 2 months ago but that's like his 5th most recent clip because he hasn't clipped as much recently (I think he got a job or something). Meanwhile RVE is Jelly's editor I'm pretty sure. I haven't clipped in a few months at all because of PL stuff which should clear up soon. I was watching her recent factorio streams but I just don't feel like watching her for a while. Undecided on whether I'm dropping her for good because this could just end up being her version of "Rie's JKR moment".

Now's a great time to pull up. One yab is whatever, people will get over it. A consistent pattern of yabs is a problem.

That's the thing that is annoying me. I didn't give a shit that she's sperging about abortion, that's a default opinion for a lot of dumb terminally online women. At first I didn't think that message about wishing death on someone was that bad because I thought she was just being retarded and mindlessly reposting shit. It's the part where she sperged about a DM she got and openly stated the reason why she's sperging now is because she got a DM. By doing so, she's confirmed that she did indeed wish death on someone for voting differently while ignoring that there's enormously more substantial concerns for your average citizen. She now knows the account isn't a secret account to quietly sperg on and she decided to actively draw more attention to it like a complete retard.

And to top it all off, she's sperging about AMERICAN politics as a CANADIAN that's living in JAPAN and then tries to preach to her native countrymen to vote a certain way while she doesn't suffer the repercussions of those political decisions. Jesus Christ Clara, really starting to regret defending Sakana's decision to hire someone that hardly streams at all in Japanese for their dedicated Japanese branch.

 

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Can't wait for the next Don Walton tweet tbh.

 

[RestlessRain]

Can't wait for the next Don Walton tweet tbh.

Don's made a bunch of tweets besides the two I've posted. Don's very hit-or-miss and the new tweets haven't been as good.

 

[thhrang]

Don's made a bunch of tweets besides the two I've posted. Don's very hit-or-miss and the new tweets haven't been as good.

Don Walton is a poop-touching retard and he should consider a rope.

 

[Security]

That's the thing that is annoying me. I didn't give a shit that she's sperging about abortion, that's a default opinion for a lot of dumb terminally online women. At first I didn't think that message about wishing death on someone was that bad because I thought she was just being retarded and mindlessly reposting shit.

I didn't care that she had a strong position on abortion: shit, that's MOST people. I'm quite confident I could create a new party in the US, with detailed stances, and it would bring together most Americans and absolutely run circles around the Democrats and Republicans - except on the issue of abortion. It is the one wedge issue that is not going to see a resolution any time soon. Leaving it up to the States is both the best and right choice.

Her post, however, did more than just show a very cruel side to her - it showed me her. I've seen enough of this type of talk over the past decade plus. I now know the kind of person she is.

It is not merely a person who gets caught up in the heat of the moment; it is a person with a specific mindset. As someone said earlier, it's the type of person that genuinely wants all that you care about destroyed, and you dead. I've seen enough of it over the years, and what these kinds of people will do. Mere mean girl catty shit ain't got nothing on these creatures.

Perhaps she'll have a life changing event in the future that will shock her brain into being able to see past the heavy programming, but until then, she's an enemy. I recognize her skills as an entertainer, and while I'm not a regular watcher of hers, I'll simply not watch any material with her in it, even if that means skipping a good Pippa collab.

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

Isn't it weird seeing a French be more sane and decent than most people?

After seeing Melody and the good impression VAllure has made on people here, I think that's pretty normal, actually.

 

[Negzana]

I've not followed all the details of Tulsi's arc, but from what I've seen she seemed like a genuine liberal (not far-left) who got a wake-up call a few years back and has made quite the turnaround (I especially appreciate her stance change on guns).

While such things are unlikely to happen, they do happen, and when they do happen, it is because of some seemingly-unpredictable event that just causes a wire in their brain to get rerouted. A notable example is with Thomas Sowell, who was a Marxist throughout his 20s, even when he was studying under Milton Friedman. No amount of teaching or reading of Hayek and whatnot could break him. What did it was having one summer job with the government:

Spoiler: long post

Gabbard was groomed to be another WEF Elite, and through that started very left wing. However insteas of a ended up groomed a neoliberal globalist, it just made her more of a populist firebrand that eventually went off the plantation and disavow those who groomed her. In like 2014-2015 she became notable for one of the few Democrats to go off reservation and criticize Obama's foreign policy

In 2016 she was a the chair of the DNC and a hardcore Bernie Sanders supporter and refused to accept Clinton's nomination and endorsed Bernie and resigned her position in protest. As far as I can see she wasn't a socialist, she supported Bernie out of economic populism.

I forgot what she did 2017-2019 but I remember she was one of the only few Democrats to be fair to Trump and only criticize him when he actually fucked up, like when he bombed Syria. She also refused to impeach him over the Hunter Biden Burisma Ukraine stuff because she believed it was pure political warfare.

The primaries started and while she was as left wing as Sanders' economically she took a much more culturally moderate view than basically everyone in the Democratic Party. She declared war on the likes of the Clintons still controlling the party and tanked Harris' campaign (Harris always was unelectable under any scrutiny) by calling out her reprehensible producstorial record. She called out transgenderism, political correctness, etc and was basically channeling 2016 economic populist Bernie rather than 2020 social justice Bernie.

While she did endorse Biden in the end, she seemed to have regret it over the course of 2020 and around October she was ringing the alarm bell regarding ballot harvesting and the lack of dates and signatures or proper chains of custody in the election. She turned out right.

She did choose to impeach Trump a second time over 1/6 but it was during the heat of the moment and she seems to regret it. Through 2021-2022 she saw the worst fears of the Biden admin, the rampant spread of LGBT shit which she always opposed, the disaster at Afghanistan, economic policies that were as progressive as they were neoliberal and only aided the most entrenched cartels at the expense of the American working and middle classes, etc. This caused her to leave the Democratic party.

Having properly left the plantation, she had find to realize how ass cancer this entire regime was. She disavowed the WEF and went on interviews with people like Carlson and grew more and more defensive of Trump. In 2024 she finally made the leap and endorsed him.

Basically she went through the Bernie Bro to Trump Supporter arc a lot of Bernie Bros went through.

 

[Unseiso Dragon]

I distinctly remembered Sakana mentioning something about not saying stupid shit on the internet. Turns out, there is a clip:

(timestamp: 2:38~4:15)
While in this context it probably applies to the actual corporate vtuber accounts and not their PLs, there's still a possibility that if the doubling down continues, more fans are alerted to whatever's going on behind the screen. Fortunately this is not her sperging out as Clara Kaminari, but unfortunately that means there's not much anyone can do aside from telling her to zip it. I hope someone in there gets her to.

 

[RestlessRain]

Don Walton is a poop-touching retard and he should consider a rope.

How does Don touch the poop? He (or she) makes posts on Twitter under their own profile without tagging anyone in them. No tagging people, no relevant hashtags, no responding to their posts so they have to see it. Doesn't look like poop touching to me.

 

[La+ de Central Norte]

When will your FUCKING COUNTRY start making money that isn't worth less than toilet paper boludo?

When IMF debt is paid in time

We're sending your people back to you. You can pay off your debt by having them work in Musk's lithium mines.

Despite being one the works with most pay people dont like leaving their hometown to speend weeks in the mines
What a bunch of fags

 

[Aka Split]

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Yes you did, Clara.
Eat a dick.

Ummmm, no sweaty. She clearly said she hopes it doesn't happen because it would be tragic if it did. She definitely wasn't being sarcastic and is not currently trying to use that sarcasm as a shield. She would never do that because she respects all people and tricking them with sarcasm is something that she's too good of a person to do!

 

[reinigen]

Spoiler: long post

Gabbard was groomed to be another WEF Elite, and through that started very left wing. However insteas of a ended up groomed a neoliberal globalist, it just made her more of a populist firebrand that eventually went off the plantation and disavow those who groomed her. In like 2014-2015 she became notable for one of the few Democrats to go off reservation and criticize Obama's foreign policy

In 2016 she was a the chair of the DNC and a hardcore Bernie Sanders supporter and refused to accept Clinton's nomination and endorsed Bernie and resigned her position in protest. As far as I can see she wasn't a socialist, she supported Bernie out of economic populism.

I forgot what she did 2017-2019 but I remember she was one of the only few Democrats to be fair to Trump and only criticize him when he actually fucked up, like when he bombed Syria. She also refused to impeach him over the Hunter Biden Burisma Ukraine stuff because she believed it was pure political warfare.

The primaries started and while she was as left wing as Sanders' economically she took a much more culturally moderate view than basically everyone in the Democratic Party. She declared war on the likes of the Clintons still controlling the party and tanked Harris' campaign (Harris always was unelectable under any scrutiny) by calling out her reprehensible producstorial record. She called out transgenderism, political correctness, etc and was basically channeling 2016 economic populist Bernie rather than 2020 social justice Bernie.

While she did endorse Biden in the end, she seemed to have regret it over the course of 2020 and around October she was ringing the alarm bell regarding ballot harvesting and the lack of dates and signatures or proper chains of custody in the election. She turned out right.

She did choose to impeach Trump a second time over 1/6 but it was during the heat of the moment and she seems to regret it. Through 2021-2022 she saw the worst fears of the Biden admin, the rampant spread of LGBT shit which she always opposed, the disaster at Afghanistan, economic policies that were as progressive as they were neoliberal and only aided the most entrenched cartels at the expense of the American working and middle classes, etc. This caused her to leave the Democratic party.

Having properly left the plantation, she had find to realize how ass cancer this entire regime was. She disavowed the WEF and went on interviews with people like Carlson and grew more and more defensive of Trump. In 2024 she finally made the leap and endorsed him.

Basically she went through the Bernie Bro to Trump Supporter arc a lot of Bernie Bros went through.

If the Dems had run Tulsi I would have voted for her over Trump. She's basically the only Dem I'm willing to say that about.

She's also a Lieutenant Colenal in the National Guard and did tours as a medic. It's one of the reasons she's so fiercely anti-war.

 

[Void Scribas]

I think Clara is concluding her libtard meltdown, having said that her arguments has flaws, like always

CLARA YOU LIVE IN JAPAN, DON'T LECTURE PEOPLE IN CANADA THAT IS STRUGGLING HOW THEY SHOULD ACT WHEN YOU WOULD NEVER SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES IN THE CASE YOUR PREFERRED CANDIDATE WON.

Yeah, you are TikTok woman I'm not surprised you get swung easily by grifters.

Having said that:

—”Joe Rogan is alt-right” literally dumb libtard opinion, did you ever see the Bernie episode??

— Everything can be debated in politics, what is this naive worldview? does this woman know how the world works? inb4 She is a vtuber, so the answer is obvious.

— Why do you assume the left doesn't push identity politics, have you forgotten how black activists fucked over Bernie?? The BLM riots? oh right, you are Canadian living in Japan and failed gravure Idol, so probably you weren't even paying attention.

— Why do you assume that all the people that vote for Trump or could vote for Pierre watched Ben Shapiro or know about Gamergate? We are talking like more than half the US, probably inflation had a more effect on their voting decision than some FEMINISTS OWNED VIDEO.

Oh, so agree to disagree I guess??? At least she accepts that her argument can be refuted.

 

[Furious George]

Perhaps she'll have a life changing event in the future that will shock her brain into being able to see past the heavy programming, but until then, she's an enemy. I recognize her skills as an entertainer, and while I'm not a regular watcher of hers, I'll simply not watch any material with her in it, even if that means skipping a good Pippa collab.

These people will not suddenly wake up one day & change their positions, and if they did the shock of realising that everything they thought was true for the last however many years was an embarrassing lie, would probably put her back into the mental ward.

I wouldn't let Clara being part of a Pippa collab put you off from watching. We have ceded too much ground to these people already and one of their goals is to push us out of our hobbies. One of the reasons I started watching vtubers was because a number of my previous hobbies become pozzed & forced me out.

I can see this going badly if antis & shitters decide to press her, especially considering her tenuous mental state. Also, any future employers can do a online search on her now and see what she has been posting. While that may not be a deal breaker for some places, I can see it being a possible obstacle for her if future plans are any more ambitious than danger haired cat lady.

If the Dems had run Tulsi I would have voted for her over Trump. She's basically the only Dem I'm willing to say that about.

She's also a Lieutenant Colenal in the National Guard and did tours as a medic. It's one of the reasons she's so fiercely anti-war.

Isn't she a bit of an opportunist? It seems that she has flipflopped on a number of issues. I'm not sure the Reps are ready to run a female candidate yet so maybe a VP run would be an interesting test for her.

Also:
Colenal

 

[Negzana]

I think Clara is concluding her libtard meltdown, having said that her arguments has flaws, like always

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CLARA YOU LIVE IN JAPAN, DON'T LECTURE PEOPLE IN CANADA THAT IS STRUGGLING HOW THEY SHOULD ACT WHEN YOU WOULD NEVER SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES IN THE CASE YOUR PREFERRED CANDIDATE WON.


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Yeah, you are TikTok woman I'm not surprised you get swung easily by grifters.

Having said that:

—”Joe Rogan is alt-right” literally dumb libtard opinion, did you ever see the Bernie episode??

— Everything can be debated in politics, what is this naive worldview? does this woman know how the world works? inb4 She is a vtuber, so the answer is obvious.

— Why do you assume the left doesn't push identity politics, have you forgotten how black activists fucked over Bernie?? The BLM riots? oh right, you are Canadian living in Japan and failed gravure Idol, so probably you weren't even paying attention.

— Why do you assume that all the people that vote for Trump or could vote for Pierre watched Ben Shapiro or know about Gamergate? We are talking like more than half the US, probably inflation had a more effect on their voting decision than some FEMINISTS OWNED VIDEO.


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Oh, so agree to disagree I guess??? At least she accepts that her argument can be refuted.

I hope that far right youth parrty in Japan wins just to make her sperg out even more.

 

[Cubanodun]

I think Clara is concluding her libtard meltdown, having said that her arguments has flaws, like always

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CLARA YOU LIVE IN JAPAN, DON'T LECTURE PEOPLE IN CANADA THAT IS STRUGGLING HOW THEY SHOULD ACT WHEN YOU WOULD NEVER SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES IN THE CASE YOUR PREFERRED CANDIDATE WON.


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Yeah, you are TikTok woman I'm not surprised you get swung easily by grifters.

Having said that:

—”Joe Rogan is alt-right” literally dumb libtard opinion, did you ever see the Bernie episode??

— Everything can be debated in politics, what is this naive worldview? does this woman know how the world works? inb4 She is a vtuber, so the answer is obvious.

— Why do you assume the left doesn't push identity politics, have you forgotten how black activists fucked over Bernie?? The BLM riots? oh right, you are Canadian living in Japan and failed gravure Idol, so probably you weren't even paying attention.

— Why do you assume that all the people that vote for Trump or could vote for Pierre watched Ben Shapiro or know about Gamergate? We are talking like more than half the US, probably inflation had a more effect on their voting decision than some FEMINISTS OWNED VIDEO.


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Oh, so agree to disagree I guess??? At least she accepts that her argument can be refuted.

Remember this idiot used to do softcore porn, the lesson of this is that the political opinions of a whore should be in the same league as the opinions of childrens, aka discarded with extreme prejudice

 

[Helkar]

Welp.
Somehow i always knew that watching Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder turns people into terminal liberals. Even watching Sargon would probably have produced better results.

Fucking hell, imagine using the term "alt-right" unironically in #currentyear.
Richard Spencer, the poster boy of the whole "punch a nazi" social media trend, has spent the last few years sucking NAFO's balls and campaigning for Biden/Harris with zero tonal whiplash from the "punch a nazi" people. It's embarassing.

 

[Furious George]

I think Clara is concluding her libtard meltdown, having said that her arguments has flaws, like always

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Oh, so agree to disagree I guess??? At least she accepts that her argument can be refuted.

"We need to double wages to beat inflation"

Why is she surprised that a devout jew & Christian not want to celebrate gay weddings or troons? How is it any different from devout leftists forcing their beliefs onto conservatives (which is objectively worse)?

Damn it woman.