they on site or back home on the farms?Theres not only that pic, titanosaurus did provide more. I havent saved em cause im not a creep stalking short women.
they on site or back home on the farms?Theres not only that pic, titanosaurus did provide more. I havent saved em cause im not a creep stalking short women.
they on site or back home on the farms?
thats rhe one i know, yall crazy saying this is curvy
That's a boy with long hair.
Theres also the one in the black tshirt plus i didnt say curvy i said somewhat curvy, big differencethats rhe one i know, yall crazy saying this is curvy
Theres not only that pic, titanosaurus did provide more. I havent saved em cause im not a creep stalking short women.
The only image of her is the one shared on her PL with her face blocked out. That b/w one just goes around on vt.they on site or back home on the farms?
rhe only way this is somewhat curvy is if she was standing in front of a fun house mirrorTheres also the one in the black tshirt plus i didnt say curvy i said somewhat curvy, big difference
None of the supposed model photos were ever found? They were suppose to be in print magazines right?The only image of her is the one shared on her PL with her face blocked out. That b/w one just goes around on vt.
She'd actually specified it one time and said it was for small local shows, nothing major like for magazines. Or at least that's what she'd like us to believe.None of the supposed model photos were ever found? They were suppose to be in print magazines right?
Pretty slick that she hasn't had a face dox for that reason I suppose
chances are if shes a model she got put in a mag anyway unless somethings changed.She'd actually specified it one time and said it was for small local shows, nothing major like for magazines. Or at least that's what she'd like us to believe.
Was this one actually confirmed her? The only source I've ever seen for it was "some guy on /vt/".
Personally, i dont think she got anything comissioned and is pretending she did. i dont have any proof she didnt and i dont have any proof she did.Posting this here because I figure it'd be moved here from the main thread anyway.
In regards to the Shiina NSFW goal, which to my understanding is not being released now? (Despite [iirc on twitter] being supposedly finished and witnessed by Tenma?)
Wouldn't it be possible (if the donators were crazy enough), that they could enter into an action against Phase for false advertisement towards a donation goal? Simp's likely wouldn't do that because it would implicate Shiina, but, what if we crossed that road at some point where a company gets into litigation due to this type of result from a donation related stream? Where they don't deliver after months of the money being deposited into their account? Would they be able to hide the identities of the vtubers involved due to the nature of the work or would they be forced to provide that information? Would they just fold and provide the content to avoid the court time?
Anyways, I think it is scummy to promise and not deliver, regardless of whatever it is you are promising. So this situation on principle disappoints me.
I don't know anything about the actual process of doing anything legal about it but it does seem like something could be possible. I think PC has made a very minor issue into a bit more by handling it badly. Admittedly, most of Shiina's viewers and donators don't really care about this much, it's a novelty at best. We don't even know if the art style was any good (I think the artist is kinda meh). But I do agree that not fallowing through with a donation goal is bad and something PC should not be okay with. Initially Shiina said on stream that a replacement commission might be made, but in her later discord and twitter posts this doesn't seem to be on the table. Really, I think the best would have been for PC to commission a new work that's specifically what is okay for them and Shiina and not comment on the not-okay animation. But it's too late for that now and I do think the lack of a statement from management and the "no, now shut up" attitude about it is bad. This donathon goal was approved by management. The skeb request was approved by management. Shiina said how embarrassing it was having to show them. Tenma saw the NSFW and seemed to think is was good. So if management is just saying NO, I think they should at least make a statement if they're not going to replace it.Posting this here because I figure it'd be moved here from the main thread anyway.
In regards to the Shiina NSFW goal, which to my understanding is not being released now? (Despite [iirc on twitter] being supposedly finished and witnessed by Tenma?)
Wouldn't it be possible (if the donators were crazy enough), that they could enter into an action against Phase for false advertisement towards a donation goal? Simp's likely wouldn't do that because it would implicate Shiina, but, what if we crossed that road at some point where a company gets into litigation due to this type of result from a donation related stream? Where they don't deliver after months of the money being deposited into their account? Would they be able to hide the identities of the vtubers involved due to the nature of the work or would they be forced to provide that information? Would they just fold and provide the content to avoid the court time?
Anyways, I think it is scummy to promise and not deliver, regardless of whatever it is you are promising. So this situation on principle disappoints me.
shiina didnt have a top 3/5 donator contest like uruka and airi right? wonder if anyone went through PCs donothon goals to check how much of it got completed.I don't know anything about the actual process of doing anything legal about it but it does seem like something could be possible. I think PC has made a very minor issue into a bit more by handling it badly. Admittedly, most of Shiina's viewers and donators don't really care about this much, it's a novelty at best. We don't even know if the art style was any good (I think the artist is kinda meh). But I do agree that not fallowing through with a donation goal is bad and something PC should not be okay with. Initially Shiina said on stream that a replacement commission might be made, but in her later discord and twitter posts this doesn't seem to be on the table. Really, I think the best would have been for PC to commission a new work that's specifically what is okay for them and Shiina and not comment on the not-okay animation. But it's too late for that now and I do think the lack of a statement from management and the "no, now shut up" attitude about it is bad. This donathon goal was approved by management. The skeb request was approved by management. Shiina said how embarrassing it was having to show them. Tenma saw the NSFW and seemed to think is was good. So if management is just saying NO, I think they should at least make a statement if they're not going to replace it.
https://archive.ph/qpvQu (Tenma tweet)
There's a few possibilities why they'd cancel it.
1(as stated by Shiina) it's just unflattering, too Gynecologic, it's bad, it's too much and so on. Okay, well it would be in PC interest to make something else that's more tasteful but still NSFW just to satisfy the dono goal.
2 Management is afraid appearance of Shiina in a explicate video violates Canadian Law and so can't be officially released by PC. Understandable but then 1 it shouldn't be show to Tenma and Lia either, it should be wiped off thier systems and again, 2 commission something else and be more specific.
3 PC now decided no official NSFW is allowed for talents. They should really make a statement about this if this is the case.
4 (hopefully not this) Shiina doesn't want any official NSFW. Really if this is the case she or management should explain this. I don't think most of her fanbase cares very much and everyone makes mistakes. It's really understandable if she just doesn't want that image going forward, but it's something that should be addressed.
Basically, regardless of the reason, because it was donathon goal, it's in PCs interest to address it in some way. Shiina saying "no, talk to my manager" should not be the remedy. Extra scarf raffles are nice but the "didn't fulfil donathon" with hang over her and PC and sets precedent that PC may not fulfil it's stuff (which is okay, just not great for them).
IIRC she exceeded all her goals by a lot. I think the top 10 donators all got a scarf and other donators were entered into a raffle to win one of 10 additional scarfs.shiina didnt have a top 3/5 donator contest like uruka and airi right? wonder if anyone went through PCs donothon goals to check how much of it got completed.
Not Matsuri Senpai did it again
There are plenty of reasons why they would not want to release a full on PORN VIDEO of one of their talents from Shiina's POV Embarrassment is probably the sole reason why she does not want it out on the internet and showing it to her friends and colleagues is far different then a horde of angry simping fansI don't know anything about the actual process of doing anything legal about it but it does seem like something could be possible. I think PC has made a very minor issue into a bit more by handling it badly. Admittedly, most of Shiina's viewers and donators don't really care about this much, it's a novelty at best. We don't even know if the art style was any good (I think the artist is kinda meh). But I do agree that not fallowing through with a donation goal is bad and something PC should not be okay with. Initially Shiina said on stream that a replacement commission might be made, but in her later discord and twitter posts this doesn't seem to be on the table. Really, I think the best would have been for PC to commission a new work that's specifically what is okay for them and Shiina and not comment on the not-okay animation. But it's too late for that now and I do think the lack of a statement from management and the "no, now shut up" attitude about it is bad. This donathon goal was approved by management. The skeb request was approved by management. Shiina said how embarrassing it was having to show them. Tenma saw the NSFW and seemed to think is was good. So if management is just saying NO, I think they should at least make a statement if they're not going to replace it.
https://archive.ph/qpvQu (Tenma tweet)
There's a few possibilities why they'd cancel it.
1(as stated by Shiina) it's just unflattering, too Gynecologic, it's bad, it's too much and so on. Okay, well it would be in PC interest to make something else that's more tasteful but still NSFW just to satisfy the dono goal.
2 Management is afraid appearance of Shiina in a explicate video violates Canadian Law and so can't be officially released by PC. Understandable but then 1 it shouldn't be show to Tenma and Lia either, it should be wiped off thier systems and again, 2 commission something else and be more specific.
3 PC now decided no official NSFW is allowed for talents. They should really make a statement about this if this is the case.
4 (hopefully not this) Shiina doesn't want any official NSFW. Really if this is the case she or management should explain this. I don't think most of her fanbase cares very much and everyone makes mistakes. It's really understandable if she just doesn't want that image going forward, but it's something that should be addressed.
Basically, regardless of the reason, because it was donathon goal, it's in PCs interest to address it in some way. Shiina saying "no, talk to my manager" should not be the remedy. Extra scarf raffles are nice but the "didn't fulfil donathon" with hang over her and PC and sets precedent that PC may not fulfil it's stuff (which is okay, just not great for them).
Oh I agree completely, there's very good reasons to not do cartoon PORN VIDEO. But they chose and approved it for the donathon and approved the skeb request, describing mating press and more. So for them to just not want to now, there should be an explanation, particularly if it's from management or Fishman.There are plenty of reasons why they would not want to release a full on PORN VIDEO of one of their talents from Shiina's POV Embarrassment is probably the sole reason why she does not want it out on the internet and showing it to her friends and colleagues is far different then a horde of angry simping fans
on the fishman side. Damaging their name among ALL potential partners damaging Shiina's name and brand among all potential partners one or the other is most likely. it's not a full on porn ban (why would it be?) its the same reason twitch and youtube theoretically don't allow porn videos on their sites it scares away sponsors and collaberators even if they are ok with it their sponsors and collaberators might not be.