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The Proctor

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Like Empty said, him and his mods got @'d and DM'd repeatedly.

I can go through all of my DMs and can attest that I never once got any DMs with info about Purrson or anyone else. If you know anyone who did and can post ones that I missed, then I'll happily rescind this statement. I do however have screenshots of my moderators going to your server and asking repeatedly for clarification and information from users who had left about the issues they had left over. All they got in reply was evasion. If people will not talk to moderators even after they are specifically reached out to, there is nothing else we can do.

No one ever put anything? Motherfucker go to the Piss Channel, click Threads, look at the Purrson Thread created by Empty_Inbox and say it again! We warned you multiple times - zero action taken, slap on the wrist, reports with direct @'s handled with a limp dickness of person with a "bleeding heart", and def not someone who is keeping all the yes-men and echo chamber ass lickers around him in the status of untouchable white people, who are never to be punished because they share your political views.

As I said; the information we got was not actionable. At no point did you or anyone else actually tag a moderator into that thread. I was not even aware that it existed for a very long time until I spotted it at random during a sweep of the thread system a long while after you left the server.

I would also note that other members of the community have demonstrated quite similar behaviour to Purrson before. Should I ban @Moth Enjoyer V2 because he quite frequently thirst-posts about bugs in ways that other users consistently call out as creepy and weird? The last time I decided to use my administrative powers to remove someone, almost the entire community condemned my actions as arbitrary and unwarranted, even after it was prompted by that user going on a very long and detailed tangent defending someone for a deeply heinous act. The lesson I took from that is that I should never shoot unless I was certain to hit a target. I apologize that this stance resulted in the situation of today, but want to emphasize that it wouldn't have happened if you'd come to me directly in my DMs.

You don't get to act all high and mighty like stupid little peasants are not keeping you informed, you were warned and contacted multiple times in all the accounts of his transgressions. After all that to say it is our fault, to brag about always listening to feedback, is a fag behavior.

If I gave that impression, I'm sorry. Again; the disjointed nature of the accusations, combined with similar behaviour of other members that did not recieve similar critique, plus the reaction of people to prior incidents of me deciding to remove users based on perception rather than active rulebreaking is what resulted in these events. I simply wish to reiterate that in future, you should make sure to compile this information and give it to both me and the rest of the staff directly, using either a DM or the ticket system.

I don't recall if you were still in the server when I made this post, but for those not in the Discord, this was a summary of the operational procedure the staff were using.

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Nobody objected to this, and nobody raised any doubts or dissent that I am aware of. There was consensus that this was a reasonable way to handle things, so that is how I have proceeded since.

Ticketing bot was not there when I left. I'm sorry I didn't contact Proctor in a proper business hours with a printed letter after talking to him directly where everyone can see and getting fuck all for an answer

As I have mentioned in previous posts, I have many other concerns and I often miss large sections of conversation. I often wake up in the morning to several hundred pings and mentions, and I often tend to bulk-clear them. This and the additional info @Last Of The Mohicans just mentioned while I was writing this was the reason I didn't register your issues sooner. That was my fault, and I freely admit that. I am simply saying that fixing this will involve more people than myself, because this community is bigger than one person can handle, especially across multiple lines of engagement and communication.
 
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I Wanna Die

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Mostly because nobody ever put together anything like this till after the event. If I had been contacted at any point about any of this, I likely would have stepped in a long time ago. From my perspective, a few people complained and pointed out weird things he said/did every so often. When I and my moderators asked for clarification and evidence, the majority of replies were vague and not actionable (to the point of an outright ban, he received multiple warnings). Whenever I brought these issues to him, he was always apologetic and responded that he would change and stop doing it, and usually stayed quiet long enough for the warning period to expire. What got him banned was none of these instances, it was merely him failing to do what he'd told me he'd do; wind down his presence, stop posting as frequently and eventually leave within a month or two of his last warning.

If even two or three users had come to me in DMs and laid all of this out in the amount of detail you did, he'd have been removed a long time ago. But without that, he was simply treated as any other user and given timed warnings until it was clear they wouldn't work anymore.

In situations like these, communication is essential. Purrson was always communicative, detailed, apologetic and self-critical. Was that pure sophistry to manipulate me? Probably, given everything detailed here. But I can only act based on the information I'm given, and in cases where one side is always informative and the other is always vague or disjointed, the former will always be given more attention than the latter. I just don't have the time to read through thousands and thousands of messages every day to understand the exact context, nuance and detail of every incident, and on a forum which takes free speech as an overriding priority in nearly all cases, it's important to not be arbitrary, or you simply end up manipulated into punishing the opponents of the in-group and turning the place into an echo-chamber.

In summary; if someone with this many red flags appears, catalogue them in detail and send them to me/the staff so we can act on it.
Proctor for someone who has bitched numerous times about the enshitification of KF and Nulls lack of doing fuck all about it you are in the early stages of letting this shit happen in your own communities.

Groomcord is infested by faggots. Purrson was only part of the problem, and you and the other mods were @'d on most of what Empty laid out in his posts. There's also that culturewar grifter femboy Ursus Exalted who shits up groomcord with retarded link spam and excessive politisperging and chinashilling every time he can. FUCKING MERELY TOURIST IS ACTUALLY MORE COHERENT AND SANE THEN HE IS, But you won't kick him cause he's "useful" whatever the fuck that means. You've said people just want him gone because they don't agree with him but he doesn't have any real opinions he exists solely to be a contrarian femboy. You also have fucking mongs like Xenassassin who literally only shows up to sperg about "globohomo" and "THE JEWS" and whatever other nonsense dribbles out of what is most likely some sort of politisperg AI chatbot. These people are unironic covid deniers, they don't think it was overblown or that governments all over the world massively overstepped in their reactions or that the vaccines shouldn't be trusted, they just straight up think it's fake news. I don't think any of these fucking retards even watch vtubers. Holy shit, at least Purrson actually uses the fucking forum unlike them.

If you're going to let them run rampant might as well let Nolan back in while you're at it.
 

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The Proctor

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Im not there for a year and I still knew what Purrson was up to with proof. Man is a walking red flag and he doesnt respect anyone on this forum and specifically you, no matter how much smoke his blown up your ass or kissed your ring. You really don't want to be dismissive now.

Purrson was a nobody. I barely noticed his existence. He has a few posts here, and that's it. I'm dismissive because he never really impinged on my consciousness at all, in any real capacity. I would mostly register him briefly whenever he did something weird and creepy, then I just catalogued him along with the other users who are also weird and creepy at times. He was mainly active on a server I only regularly engage with to have casual conversations or catalogue the behaviour of people in this industry. When you're listening to an entire cathedral of singers all at once, you tend not to notice when one of them is off-key.

Groomcord is infested by faggots. Purrson was only part of the problem, and you and the other mods were @'d on most of what Empty laid out in his posts. There's also that culturewar grifter femboy Ursus Exalted who shits up groomcord with retarded link spam and excessive politisperging and chinashilling every time he can. FUCKING MERELY TOURIST IS ACTUALLY MORE COHERENT AND SANE THEN HE IS, But you won't kick him cause he's "useful" whatever the fuck that means. You've said people just want him gone because they don't agree with him but he doesn't have any real opinions he exists solely to be a contrarian femboy. You also have fucking mongs like Xenassassin who literally only shows up to sperg about "globohomo" and "THE JEWS" and whatever other nonsense dribbles out of what is most likely some sort of politisperg AI chatbot. These people are unironic covid deniers, they don't think it was overblown or that governments all over the world massively overstepped in their reactions or that the vaccines shouldn't be trusted, they just straight up think it's fake news. I don't think any of these fucking retards even watch vtubers. Holy shit, at least Purrson actually uses the fucking forum unlike them.

I stand for freedom of speech. That includes speech that you may not find appealing or enjoy seeing. I also don't understand what you mean by 'I won't kick him because he's useful'.
 

Saturnus

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I'm just saying despite the 3 hentai channels the "Kiwi-coomcord" as it is colloquially known as didn't have nearly this gay of drama.
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famous artist pipkun

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I stand for freedom of speech. That includes speech that you may not find appealing or enjoy seeing. I also don't understand what you mean by 'I won't kick him because he's useful'.
Weird, you banned me for week for just saying Starship Troopers was a good book
 

The Proctor

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Weird, you banned me for week for just saying Starship Troopers was a good book

I timed you out for a week because you started saying that fascism was a good thing and that you craved the return of Mussolini on a platform that will delete servers if that kind of talk is reported.
 

Empty_Inbox

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Your mods where there when I created the Thread. I proposed the idea of cataloguing in the Thread in a conversation with one of them because we had an issue with someone deleting their posts.

I'm not saying you should be all knowing and everpresent. I'm saying you cannot expect people to trust you when all you have is excuses. You want people to report to you, and when people who are interested in reporting lose trust in you and leave, what do we see?

Who was banned so far?

Purrson because he was talking about Covid
Dazzle because he annoyed you personally
Naganon because he was a sperg

Should you ban half the server if they are acting in a disruptive manner?

YES!
THIS HOW YOU SHOW THEM THAT RULES SHOULD BE FOLLOWED!


You should ban Moth for breaking the rule, even if he is an old member.
You should ban me for breaking the rule, even if I'm useful.
You should ban a vtuber for breaking the rule, even if you think they are the lifeblood of your online presence.

And then, when everyone gets the message, you should pick and choose who to unban, who is trustworthy, who is a repeat offender. This is exactly how rules and laws are handled, this is the purpose of those tools and that authority.

I stand for freedom of speech. That includes speech that you may not find appealing or enjoy seeing. I also don't understand what you mean by 'I won't kick him because he's useful'.
Freedom of speech is a banner used for various reasons. Do you want to be a 4chan because muh freedom of speech? Do you want your Discord to be associated with loli and toddler lewdtubers because muh freedom of speech? There is a difference between "everyone wants this person gone because they are muslim" and "everyone wants this person gone because they are a step away from being a sex offender".
 

kanpainiggi

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Purrson was a nobody. I barely noticed his existence. He has a few posts here, and that's it. I'm dismissive because he never really impinged on my consciousness at all, in any real capacity. I would mostly register him briefly whenever he did something weird and creepy, then I just catalogued him along with the other users who are also weird and creepy at times. He was mainly active on a server I only regularly engage with to have casual conversations or catalogue the behaviour of people in this industry. When you're listening to an entire cathedral of singers all at once, you tend not to notice when one of them is off-key.



I stand for freedom of speech. That includes speech that you may not find appealing or enjoy seeing. I also don't understand what you mean by 'I won't kick him because he's useful'.
I got banned for a week for saying Yamanba
 

famous artist pipkun

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I timed you out for a week because you started saying that fascism was a good thing and that you craved the return of Mussolini on a platform that will delete servers if that kind of talk is reported.
While some recollections may vary, i must say i never brought up mussolini and that the pomf vtuberess was there for a long while.
 

GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR

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Purrson was a nobody.
So much of a nobody an entire forum celebrates his dick being exploded?
When you're listening to an entire cathedral of singers all at once, you tend not to notice when one of them is off-key.
This is why you are laser focused on literally who dramas between one views, got it.
I stand for freedom of speech. That includes speech that you may not find appealing or enjoy seeing.
Hi :)
At no point did you or anyone else actually tag a moderator into that thread.
Hakka would disagree, yknow, if he was there. Cuz he left. Because of Purrson specifically.
I would also note that other members of the community have demonstrated quite similar behaviour to Purrson before. Should I ban @Moth Enjoyer V2 because he quite frequently thirst-posts about bugs in ways that other users consistently call out as creepy and weird?
Whataboutism. Proctor, nobody cares about the bugfucker cause he doesnt harass other users.
As I have mentioned in previous posts, I have many other concerns and I often miss large sections of conversation. I often wake up in the morning to several hundred pings and mentions, and I often tend to bulk-clear them. This and the additional info @Last Of The Mohicans just mentioned while I was writing this was the reason I didn't register your issues sooner. That was my fault, and I freely admit that.
"Sorry for having a big dick and and thousand of pings, I guess :\"
 

Nenélove

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The discord gayness invaded the forum.
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Proc is being really civil about it though, so that's that.
 

famous artist pipkun

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Rinfriend

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We should get writeups on fern and the other handful of creeps, schizos and spergs that make/made their homes in the discord tbh
This would be really funny.
Man, I remember trying to help Fern but then Hakka (shortbus_servant) told me he tried the same thing and he stayed the exact same.
What a lost cause that guy Fern is.
 

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This would be really funny.
Man, I remember trying to help Fern but then Hakka (shortbus_servant) told me he tried the same thing and he stayed the exact same.
What a lost cause that guy Fern is.
We said the same thing about you jackie.:annoyedpippa:
 

Topo Chico

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shiet mayne we gone git deez keedz off da floride and stop the autism that has been running rampant across the eentirnetz fuh da past 30 yearz
 

Empty_Inbox

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@Proctor I want to make it clear.

I want to ensure the long-term survival of TVA forum, and by extension its forward battle post TVAcord. I might get heated in times, and might fly of the handle, but you know how much time and effort I put into this place. I'm not aiming for your throat, and I will not be happy if things go tits up.

That being said, the current course is hardly sustainable, in my eyes at least. Sooner or later some bullshit on your Discord will blow up in your face.

Loli lewdtuber with a porn site links almost did it, you were saved by your mod team. What is going to happen if they are not there?
 

I Wanna Die

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I stand for freedom of speech. That includes speech that you may not find appealing or enjoy seeing. I also don't understand what you mean by 'I won't kick him because he's useful'.
My man if multiple people who have all been around long enough to be in the piss room (not including me) have problems with the guy, if one of your jannies refers to it as "Are the blue names being retarded again?", you might want to reconsider.
 

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