Makes sense.
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Reality (then WFS) was very much in the business of making vtubers through collaborations with other companies instead of just doing it themselves, it was probably more profitable as all of these chuubas ended up streaming on their app which would theoretically bring in more people.
I did leave out 2 potential vtubers from that era for different reasons. One is Hazuki Natsu, which several sources claim was associated with Reality but I can't find any evidence of that and the other is DJ Rio, which while she was a vtuber technically associated with the company, I quickly discovered that it was little more than Reality's fucking CEO playing around with a female avatar and pretending to be a sexy foxgirl DJ, in fact the dude STILL uses the twitter account to post to this day, which is extra funny because he doesn't even stream or make videos anymore, he just posts normal CEO shit like metaverse trash or updates to his shitty app.
Check him out: https://x.com/djrio_vr
I'm sad the avatar was never used by an actual female because I actually quite like it. Fukin babiniku CEO retard I swear...
I did leave out 2 potential vtubers from that era for different reasons. One is Hazuki Natsu, which several sources claim was associated with Reality but I can't find any evidence of that and the other is DJ Rio, which while she was a vtuber technically associated with the company, I quickly discovered that it was little more than Reality's fucking CEO playing around with a female avatar and pretending to be a sexy foxgirl DJ, in fact the dude STILL uses the twitter account to post to this day, which is extra funny because he doesn't even stream or make videos anymore, he just posts normal CEO shit like metaverse trash or updates to his shitty app.
Check him out: https://x.com/djrio_vr
I'm sad the avatar was never used by an actual female because I actually quite like it. Fukin babiniku CEO retard I swear...
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Oho? But you thought I was done for the day?!
YOU ARE WRONG! BOOM PHASE CONNECT CHART! TWO CHARTS IN ONE DAY BITCH!
This one was pretty easy too, just had it on the back burner because I was waiting for their new talents to drop. Next up is a Niji UPDATE, wish me luck.
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YOU ARE WRONG! BOOM PHASE CONNECT CHART! TWO CHARTS IN ONE DAY BITCH!
This one was pretty easy too, just had it on the back burner because I was waiting for their new talents to drop. Next up is a Niji UPDATE, wish me luck.
>>>DETAILED IMAGE<<<
You should add that sleepy was apart of a group related to the game Escape from Tarkov its why she had project on her name for many years
artist JiziIzumi offered them a model so long as they slapped project onto their usernames
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Wasn't really a group as much as it was just a shared artist, it wasn't formal nor did it have any cohesion. Rye was one of them and she basically had nothing to do with the other two. My requirements for adding groups can be found in the OP.
Other artist groups I have included like PlivYou had a logo, Twitter account, staff and actual debuts and graduations. The _project girls just have a shared handle and artist.
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I want to clarify that I am not opposed to new or missing info, I simply cannot add ALL the available info, some things I elected to cut because they simply do not have a strong enough reason to occupy space/add complexity to the chart. Cataloging additional tid-bits is better done with a wiki. Many of which already exist and do that job perfectly well.
I also work in a very... common law-ish way, if any one chart gets a new bit of info that is of a certain type or significance, then that to me sets precedent for ALL other charts to also get everything that is equivalent which I have previously omitted. This is the reason I elected to do something like cutting out HoloEarth from the Holo chart, since it was basically a game/metaverse platform, that would justify adding all of the other games/metaverse platforms from Brave and Gree and who knows what else in the future.
I debated on tying ember to Kallin because that would mean any other time a vtuber rebrands that justifies adding it, which would then open me up for dozens of hours researching extraneous past identities which is the very reason I banned PL, but I judged it a rare enough case to still add it.
It may seem silly but it comes from a simple desire to not take the easy way out, it would be very easy to fill the EN-centric charts with all kinds of info but have barebones documentation when it comes to very minor or foreign companies, I think that is bullshit, I want all aspects no matter their popularity to have equal representation and detail, and if that means some minor details of very well known agencies get cut then so be it.
I also work in a very... common law-ish way, if any one chart gets a new bit of info that is of a certain type or significance, then that to me sets precedent for ALL other charts to also get everything that is equivalent which I have previously omitted. This is the reason I elected to do something like cutting out HoloEarth from the Holo chart, since it was basically a game/metaverse platform, that would justify adding all of the other games/metaverse platforms from Brave and Gree and who knows what else in the future.
I debated on tying ember to Kallin because that would mean any other time a vtuber rebrands that justifies adding it, which would then open me up for dozens of hours researching extraneous past identities which is the very reason I banned PL, but I judged it a rare enough case to still add it.
It may seem silly but it comes from a simple desire to not take the easy way out, it would be very easy to fill the EN-centric charts with all kinds of info but have barebones documentation when it comes to very minor or foreign companies, I think that is bullshit, I want all aspects no matter their popularity to have equal representation and detail, and if that means some minor details of very well known agencies get cut then so be it.
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Been away for like a week, but it's mostly because my life has become somewhat hectic and I haven't had a ton of drive to do charts. But I am still grinding at the Niji format revision and update:
Again, including debut dates has uncovered quite a few interesting things, spent like a whole 4 hours looking into the fucking koreans again trying to finally put all of the loose ends I left out when working on Niji initially to rest. I'm also gonna take the plunge and just actually divide Niji's main branch into historical sections with a little text blurb for each, having a big lump with no explanation never sat right with me even if I have to invent a Niji-specific 4.5th tier which no other chart will use because they don't have these drastic jumps in debut strategy combined with "there's no distinct generations except when there is fuck you"
Brave v.3 may be the most complex chart I've ever attempted, but Niji beats it in sheer annoyance and uncertainty.
Again, including debut dates has uncovered quite a few interesting things, spent like a whole 4 hours looking into the fucking koreans again trying to finally put all of the loose ends I left out when working on Niji initially to rest. I'm also gonna take the plunge and just actually divide Niji's main branch into historical sections with a little text blurb for each, having a big lump with no explanation never sat right with me even if I have to invent a Niji-specific 4.5th tier which no other chart will use because they don't have these drastic jumps in debut strategy combined with "there's no distinct generations except when there is fuck you"
Brave v.3 may be the most complex chart I've ever attempted, but Niji beats it in sheer annoyance and uncertainty.
Arguably, Dizzy's rebranding would count as well, since (similarly to Ember/Kallin) she also reused social accounts that were previously for Urara, openly acknowledged she was Urara and even used Urara's model in a skit as Dizzy. I'm guessing you didn't include her because Urara wasn't a "talent" of Tsunderia?
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Kitbash already told me this and I will consider it, though I don't like how unspecific it is and what kind of doors it opens if I say yes to both. Staff cannot be allowed by any means, that is a can of worms and nebulous bullshit I don't even want to touch, so if Urara is added then I need to establish a clear "this is what justifies it" threshold that makes so that other managers that have models, and have appeared on stream and have done streams on their own can't be included.
As for the rebranding I allowed Kallin under super specific circumstances, I will have to check and (ugh) subjectively decide if Urara's case has enough justification or if it just falls under "open secret" like let's say Punkalopi = Enya Ignis.
