The Virtual Asylum Gets First Hitpiece, VICE Attempts Chuubagate

[The Proctor]

Yeah, the one where Holo didnt capitulate and decided to axe an entire profitable fan-base/region instead of easily letting go of one or two talents?

Yes. That's the one. It didn't happen again because Hololive deliberately left that market. Which was a move I circumstantially endorse due to the cultural context. But it was a massive move with enormous repercussions, arguably vastly greater in scope and scale than what is currently happening in the West. I dislike it when people make the claim what is happening in the West is unique.

 

[Superduper Samurai]

Yes. That's the one. It didn't happen again because Hololive deliberately left that market. Which was a move I circumstantially endorse due to the cultural context. But it was a massive move with enormous repercussions, arguably vastly greater in scope and scale than what is currently happening in the West. I dislike it when people make the claim what is happening in the West is unique.

Yeah, but there is a massive difference here since it was in that case, a big corpo vs a big surge of anti-ism, and almost no figureheads to note on the side of the cancellation retards (unless you count Artia somehow), unless there were hardcore wumaos. Its a comparison in general outrage, yes, but the way that outrage was handled and who dealt it was radically different

 

[Smelliest007]

Proctor, step away from the keyboard, you're about to launch into more long winded diatribes that will only make us more disenfranchised from your position. You know how you get. It's time for you to

 

[lolwatagain]

I think the issue with this is that its both a very localized event but it was done by people who could easily jump in and shit up many things people enjoy, even when they werent touching the poo.
People who enjoy indies who occasionally make jokes about off color topics could've easily been sneeded, Valens was in the process of trying to target two dramafags and never once stopped trying to target a whore micro-corpo. I dont want to go full alarmist autist and go "IT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU, HOLOBRONIES!!!!1!!1" and its highly unlikely. But i dont think Kirsche did anything wrong by standing up to this shit, her most recent post where she does detail how much Valens tried to attack random retards who werent even right wing are good enough rebuttals so far.

I dont disagree with people calling Kirsche a retard for touching the poo sometimes, but i would hope that people arent content and expecting this to never attempt to target people they enjoy for whatever reason

The worst thing about retards like Quarterpounder latching onto it, is that its like chumming the water for other retards to latch on and spread more shit.

It's one thing if it's limited to a few Poo-in-loos and dying media outlets that nobody reads, but god help us all if breadtuber retards or even worse, Hassan's community of retards latches onto it. Then it will spiral into riling up room-temp retards for clicks and money.

 

[geesecode]

Hassan's community of retards latches onto it

Hell no, don't speak that nightmare into existence.

 

[Superduper Samurai]

Hell no, don't speak that nightmare into existence.

hopefully, he might be too busy sperg fighting Ethan Klein to care about small fries drama

 

[Void Scribas]

Well boys, I guess it's official.
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Ana Valens: "i guess we're in VTuberGate now" — Bluesky | Ghostarchive

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Ana Valens: "Everyone has my full permission to discuss me, the articles, the issues around it, everything Everything I've discussed publicly, you've got it I'm a public figure, it's fair game" — Bluesky | Ghostarchive

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Ana Valens: "The usual suspects are being Very Normal, claiming there's a call for "a GamerGate style cleanse of the VTubing industry" What does that even mean...?" — Bluesky | Ghostarchive

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Ana Valens: "Kirsche associate and Sandy Hook truther Grxit says “they” want to “take over VTubing” But a faux pas on his part. He admits “it’s all so tiring.” Deep down, this far-right harasser knows there’s no fight for the bigots in VTubing. They

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Ana Valens: "Keep speaking up and keep showing others what’s going on The wider geekdom world is paying attention, and they don’t like what they see" — Bluesky | Ghostarchive

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No is not official, Valens is the only one calling it that, which makes the whole thing a fucking psyop.

Gamergate is a name that was acquired in an organic manner by people against journos., Valens, on the other hand, is astroturfing the name to make her entire complains and temper tantrum the most important thing ever in vtubing. An act of full narcissism.

Calling this Vtubergate is accepting that Valens is influential enough to shake the entire industry, and that weirdo is not.

The Selen controversy with Nijisanji was the real Vtubergate in how it changed things like the culture around past lives.

What is going to change here??? More polarization in an industry run by women??? My negro they do that this all the time even without political bullshit.

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I will also add that is funny how Valens is also trying to convince people that she is not the originator of this whole shitstorm, Fall Guys could literally go back to do Giantess vore NSFL ASMR in they community and be left alone, but the weirdo and its orbiters wanted a fight against other communities just living in peace.

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AND FUCKING NOLAN APPEARS IN MY MENTIONS CALLING LEAFLIT A GRIFTER, OH JUST WHAT I NEEDED.

 

[Planetary Bombardment]

words words words

Proctor, step away from the keyboard, you're about to launch into more long winded diatribes that will only make us more disenfranchised from your position.

Proctor cannot help but wax poetic, but despite his terrible delivery in this case he's right. Many people don't want to deal with this. They don't want faux-conservatives and normies and culture war bullshit invading their spaces. I don't either.

"Please, just leave me alone in my living room. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my oshi and my steel-belted radials and I won't say anything. Just leave us alone."

This is a sentiment I often see expressed in Pippa-adjacent spaces. Phil isn't going after her yet. That must mean she's okay. Kirsche brings this on herself by being political. Leave her to the dogs. Let's completely ignore that others say the exact same thing about Pippa in regards to the rest of Phase. What are we to do, then? These parasites crave attention, but ignoring them makes them stronger.

I don't have an answer. Is it better to let them spout their bullshit uncontested, or tell them that they are faggօts at every opportunity? Time will tell, I guess.

Valens, on the other hand, is astroturfing the name to make her entire complains and temper tantrum the most important thing ever in vtubing

Please for the love of anything you consider holy stop calling this sexual predator a HER.

 

[Laidho]

hopefully, he might be too busy sperg fighting Ethan Klein to care about small fries drama

Last I hear he's too busy being detained in airports, and blaming Asmongold and Ethan Klein for it.

 

[Realticule]

she reply
situation doomped

Tim Pool was originally going to carry Quarter Pounder Coffee but he said the numbers were terrible and not viable so he created his own Beanie Strained Brew. If Tim Pool won't buy it then the deal was probably awful because remember Tim Pool buys $15,000 Chinisium Meteor swords, $400 dollars novelty honey, and all kinds of other dumb shit all the time.

 

[God's Saddest Tattletail]

I have similar sentiments. Though replace Hololive with Phase Connect. I know that Pippa's name is usually dragged around when it comes to stuff like this, but I really want this conflict to be confined to just the Kirsche circle. It's selfish of me to wish it so, I just don't want to see battle lines be drawn over in Phase Connect. We already have enough retards to contend with, especially the dumbass Gumi splinter group and the likes.

I do not want Kirsche fans, drunk from their inevitable victory, to spread out and force everyone else to pick a side on this 'regional' conflict.

The odds of Kirsche fans or otherwise right wing VTuber fans spreading out and forcing something divisive should they "win" this engagement are virtually 0. If the other side "wins" however, don't expect the same to be true for them. Remember this all started because Anal Violence tried to pull this exact same stunt against VAllure but failed miserably and you can already go on reddit any time Pippa does something notable and see an entire thread filled with these same type of leftists attacking and slandering her. If Kirsche falls, more will follow until English VTubing is as pozzed as other areas like English anime VAs, AAA game studios, etc.

 

[reinigen]

This may be the dumbest, most pointless article yet, written by a pajeet no less.

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Valens will retweet this before the night is out.

The worst thing about retards like Quarterpounder latching onto it, is that its like chumming the water for other retards to latch on and spread more shit.

It's one thing if it's limited to a few Poo-in-loos and dying media outlets that nobody reads, but god help us all if breadtuber retards or even worse, Hassan's community of retards latches onto it. Then it will spiral into riling up room-temp retards for clicks and money.

I think the major problem is whether we like it or not Proctor is right. The indie market is so fucking incestuous and cliquey it's no surprise this happened. Marina was a small scale version of this. Weaseling their way into the community to try and gain more power. Luckily for us Marina was a fucking idiot.

By not inoculating itself against the usual rabble of ideologues, it allowed people like Valens to grab onto ideas they themselves had already been pushing (safety for minorities, trans accepted no matter what, lolicon be removed entirely) and use it for their own means. If you follow Valens' timeline, you can see him initially ramping it up as an Anti-lolicon and Pro-trans story to absolutely rag on vAllure. There were mentions of reaching out to payment processors to try and get them to not be able to make any money. Then Rima and Elara talked about it, and Ana started ramping up the "Rima and Elara fans are transphobes, look at them never using my pronouns". Then Kirsche ripped him a new one on her stream, and this is where we are now. The rabble who want their idiot causes pushed are glomming onto the "Journalist" being their champion. And Valens is gleefully lapping up all the attention and 'information' being fed to them by the horde asking for the next evil to be slain.

And really, the real reason Valens wanted this fight can be summed up in two screenshots.

 

[Security]

They even still try to blame GamerGate for Trump's first term as if enough gamers got pissed off to spite vote him in or something.

>Thinking we didn't

 

[furaibou]

They don't control my life as much as they want to think that, and as much as you agree with them.

There's a non-zero number of vtubers of all sizes, corporate and indie, on YouTube and Twitch, doing their thing right now, either unaware, or not giving a shit, because an AGP psycho with a breeding slave fetish is, to quote yatch enthusiast Azehara Riku Tazumi: negligible. At most.

Giving him attention is exactly what he wants. But by all means, go ahead.

Indeed, I'm sure Miko has never heard of him, and if she did, she'd just sing "nigggga!" to him.

 

[lolwatagain]

Valens will retweet this before the night is out.

I think the major problem is whether we like it or not Proctor is right. The indie market is so fucking incestuous and cliquey it's no surprise this happened. Marina was a small scale version of this. Weaseling their way into the community to try and gain more power. Luckily for us Marina was a fucking idiot.

By not inoculating itself against the usual rabble of ideologues, it allowed people like Valens to grab onto ideas they themselves had already been pushing (safety for minorities, trans accepted no matter what, lolicon be removed entirely) and use it for their own means. If you follow Valens' timeline, you can see him initially ramping it up as an Anti-lolicon and Pro-trans story to absolutely rag on vAllure. There were mentions of reaching out to payment processors to try and get them to not be able to make any money. Then Rima and Elara talked about it, and Ana started ramping up the "Rima and Elara fans are transphobes, look at them never using my pronouns". Then Kirsche ripped him a new one on her stream, and this is where we are now. The rabble who want their idiot causes pushed are glomming onto the "Journalist" being their champion. And Valens is gleefully lapping up all the attention and 'information' being fed to them by the horde asking for the next evil to be slain.

And really, the real reason Valens wanted this fight can be summed up in two screenshots.
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Jumping from a 1view average to a 2view average is truly worth it. The indie scene is incestuous and cliquey, but if you look at the numbers, it's stupidly small. The Hapsburg family tree is a larger incestuous group at this point. If it remains within those small incestuous groups, then it remains a nothingburger.

It's a horde of around 90 people at most. As long as it remains that small, it will just be another shitflinging contest to laugh at.

 

[furaibou]

Tim Pool was originally going to carry Quarter Pounder Coffee but he said the numbers were terrible and not viable so he created his own Beanie Strained Brew. If Tim Pool won't buy it then the deal was probably awful because remember Tim Pool buys $15,000 Chinisium Meteor swords, $400 dollars novelty honey, and all kinds of other dumb shit all the time.

Hey, if I had $10 million, you couldn't BELIEVE the amount of dumb shit I'm gonna buy. Gold leaf toilet paper for me!

 

[NeneLOVE]

Valens will retweet this before the night is out.

I think the major problem is whether we like it or not Proctor is right. The indie market is so fucking incestuous and cliquey it's no surprise this happened. Marina was a small scale version of this. Weaseling their way into the community to try and gain more power. Luckily for us Marina was a fucking idiot.

By not inoculating itself against the usual rabble of ideologues, it allowed people like Valens to grab onto ideas they themselves had already been pushing (safety for minorities, trans accepted no matter what, lolicon be removed entirely) and use it for their own means. If you follow Valens' timeline, you can see him initially ramping it up as an Anti-lolicon and Pro-trans story to absolutely rag on vAllure. There were mentions of reaching out to payment processors to try and get them to not be able to make any money. Then Rima and Elara talked about it, and Ana started ramping up the "Rima and Elara fans are transphobes, look at them never using my pronouns". Then Kirsche ripped him a new one on her stream, and this is where we are now. The rabble who want their idiot causes pushed are glomming onto the "Journalist" being their champion. And Valens is gleefully lapping up all the attention and 'information' being fed to them by the horde asking for the next evil to be slain.

And really, the real reason Valens wanted this fight can be summed up in two screenshots.
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99% of indies are nobodies that exert no influence and they aren't even a monolith nor a cohesive group. "Indie" in our usage of the word just means "not in a corpo" it's a catch-all term.

 

[reinigen]

Valens will retweet this before the night is out.

I think the major problem is whether we like it or not Proctor is right. The indie market is so fucking incestuous and cliquey it's no surprise this happened. Marina was a small scale version of this. Weaseling their way into the community to try and gain more power. Luckily for us Marina was a fucking idiot.

By not inoculating itself against the usual rabble of ideologues, it allowed people like Valens to grab onto ideas they themselves had already been pushing (safety for minorities, trans accepted no matter what, lolicon be removed entirely) and use it for their own means. If you follow Valens' timeline, you can see him initially ramping it up as an Anti-lolicon and Pro-trans story to absolutely rag on vAllure. There were mentions of reaching out to payment processors to try and get them to not be able to make any money. Then Rima and Elara talked about it, and Ana started ramping up the "Rima and Elara fans are transphobes, look at them never using my pronouns". Then Kirsche ripped him a new one on her stream, and this is where we are now. The rabble who want their idiot causes pushed are glomming onto the "Journalist" being their champion. And Valens is gleefully lapping up all the attention and 'information' being fed to them by the horde asking for the next evil to be slain.

And really, the real reason Valens wanted this fight can be summed up in two screenshots.
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Fucking literally ONE MINUTE after I made this post.

99% of indies are nobodies that exert no influence and they aren't even a monolith nor a cohesive group. "Indie" in our usage of the word just means "not in a corpo" it's a catch-all term.

Make Gatekeeping Great Again

 

[Sankisei]

This may be the dumbest, most pointless article yet, written by a pajeet no less.

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Ok this is the dumbest article that came out of this shitshow
Koe is like the normiest vtuber fan with the normiest takes that ever normied and this Jeet makes him look like a white supremacist while he is a Puerto Rican LOL

 

[Xuhle]

Fucking literally ONE MINUTE after I made this post.
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Please go after Jocat as well. Please go after Jocat as well. Please go after Jocat as well.