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Rosemi Lovelock & Friends General [aka Nijisanji General]

Scoots

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Nijisanji Debuts happening right now.
Debut Programme with Yu and Claude:

1st debut, Seible, right now:

2nd debut, Kaelix, in 30 minutes:

3rd debut, Freodore, in 60 minutes:

4th debut, Zeal, in 90 minutes:

Seible sounds like Aster they already replaced him
 

VSoyBoy

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Watching the the debuts. How is the CCV compared to last wave?
sorry for numberfagging, but, how are they numbers doing?
I was busy when Seible was on and could only tune in half way through Kaelix' debut (who I am pretty sure is the guy I posted before).
Numbers right now are around 20k with a pretty fast chat.
 

dkn2038

I'm not gay but an akasupa is an akasupa
Joined:  May 19, 2024
I was busy when Seible was on and could only tune in half way through Kaelix' debut (who I am pretty sure is the guy I posted before).
Numbers right now are around 20k with a pretty fast chat.
isn't that like 1/6 compared to iluna?
 

VSoyBoy

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isn't that like 1/6 compared to iluna?
I mean, obviously? Did you somehow miss what happened since then?
I don't think anyone is under the illusion that those kinds of numbers are coming back soon, if ever.
Point is it's already better than Denauth and on par with TTT, which is a good sign.
 

Azehara

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First one had like 21, second had 24, third had 23 and last one has 20. Seems fairly stable (as in no one really getting a shit-ton of more watchers than the other). I need to use the search but I think we had a CCV count for Denauth.

Overall they sound good. None of them really gives me red flags.
 

VSoyBoy

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I need to use the search but I think we had a CCV count for Denauth.
VStats is your friend.
Ryoma:
Claude (as a TTT comparison):
 

Sankisei

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Joined:  Feb 23, 2023
I mean, obviously? Did you somehow miss what happened since then?
I don't think anyone is under the illusion that those kinds of numbers are coming back soon, if ever.
Point is it's already better than Denauth and on par with TTT, which is a good sign.
First one had like 21, second had 24, third had 23 and last one has 20. Seems fairly stable (as in no one really getting a shit-ton of more watchers than the other). I need to use the search but I think we had a CCV count for Denauth.

Overall they sound good. None of them really gives me red flags.
An all males wave debuting during White Day was a good idea
 

VSoyBoy

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Debut notes:
Seible:
- native languages Japanese and English (actually bi-lingual, his English is pretty much native level)
- Full on Idol character, all about music
- Sang a One Piece opening on debut, which did not really fit his voice
Debut Cover:


Kaelix:
- PL is Apollo Kepler
- Can speak a pretty good amount of Japanese
- Musically talented
Debut Cover:


Freodore:
- Really fucking nervous
- Speaks a bit like Uki
- Speaks English, Spanish and Japanese (Japanese is good but not native, English is better than JP but still ESL, Spanish is his native language)
- Is a singer but also has knowledge about producing/mixing music (also started rapping. Coming for your job, Calli)
Debut Cover:


Zeal:
- Green
- Deep voice, although he has more range than Vox or Hex
- English, Japanese ("started learning when he got accepted to Niji" level), Spanish (School knowledge, so not really)
- Doesn't like Jazz or Bugs, so not a Bee Movie guy
- Had Mika Magica as a VA for his Lore, might point to a PL
Debut Original Song:


Overall:
- Clearly a music gen
- Similar to Denauth, they all went to Japan together before debut
- Numbers topped out around 25k CCV
- They all had matching end transitions, which was cute
Wave Song:
 

VSoyBoy

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Joined:  Feb 16, 2024
Speaking about PLs, someone on Kurosanji is saying one of the new ones is CircusP, a pretty big vocaloid producer with multiple songs in Project Sekai.
Because he is a vocaloid producer and not an utaite himself, finding any voice samples of his has proven to be difficult. If anyone has one at hand please post it.
What I have been able to confirm is the connection between Zeal and Mika Magica.
Mika Magica has done songs with CircusP and also appears in the credits of some other CircusP projects very recently.

She is credited as doing Vocal FX in this song:


Suffice to say that this would be pretty crazy and might even be the biggest pickup Niji has ever had in terms of overall size of the PL. Ren's PL had more subs on YouTube but CircusP's music is listened to by so many more people all over the world.

It would also point to some of the recent PL activities like Ike releasing a cover likely being an adaption of the rules based on him joining, as I doubt he would give up producing vocaloid to join Niji.

Edit: Who'da thought searching "CircusP Vtuber" might have been a good idea. Found his former VTuber channels, sounds like it's him. Mika Magica makes another appearance.
Comparison:

 
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TKN_Lurker

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Joined:  Dec 19, 2023
Speaking about PLs, someone on Kurosanji is saying one of the new ones is CircusP, a pretty big vocaloid producer with multiple songs in Project Sekai.
Because he is a vocaloid producer and not an utaite himself, finding any voice samples of his has proven to be difficult. If anyone has one at hand please post it.
What I have been able to confirm is the connection between Zeal and Mika Magica.
Mika Magica has done songs with CircusP and also appears in the credits of some other CircusP projects very recently.

She is credited as doing Vocal FX in this song:


Suffice to say that this would be pretty crazy and might even be the biggest pickup Niji has ever had in terms of overall size of the PL. Ren's PL had more subs on YouTube but CircusP's music is listened to by so many more people all over the world.

It would also point to some of the recent PL activities like Ike releasing a cover likely being an adaption of the rules based on him joining, as I doubt he would give up producing vocaloid to join Niji.

Edit: Who'da thought searching "CircusP Vtuber" might have been a good idea. Found his former VTuber channels, sounds like it's him. Mika Magica makes another appearance.
Comparison:


While I'm impressed that they managed to get a quality talent this time, I really do wonder why anyone of this caliber and success wants to join the sinking ship that is Kurosanji EN.

He doesn't even have the excuse of being a really small indie, this guy literally doesn't need them as much as Riku needs him for their dying branch. What even drew him in?
 
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VSoyBoy

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While I'm impressed that they managed to get a quality talent this time, I really do wonder why anyone of this caliber and success wants to join the sinking ship that is Kurosanji EN.

He doesn't even have the excuse of being a really small indie, this guy literally doesn't need them as much as Riku needs him for their dying branch. What even drew him in?
His VTubing ventures weren't as successful as his vocaloid career, with less than 5k subscribers after more than 4 years.
And it seems like he wanted to focus on VTubing more than doing vocaloid. He has been a producer for more than 15 years and put his Patreon on hiatus back in 2023, presumably to focus on VTubing.

And, if what I suspect is true, that PL activity rules are getting laxer, I don't think there is much of a downside to joining Niji to find a larger audience interested in his VTubing instead of just his music.
 

VSoyBoy

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Further reinforcing his PL as a music producer, it seems like Ginjoka is planning to release a whole EP very soon, including his debut song and at least four more original songs produced and sung by him.
 

JusticeDog

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And, if what I suspect is true, that PL activity rules are getting laxer, I don't think there is much of a downside to joining Niji to find a larger audience interested in his VTubing instead of just his music.
If they start allowing PL activity, then Niji has officially reached critical levels of desperation.

We've seen multiple times how they manipulate people into staying by making them feel worthless without the company and it would be really surprising if they gave that power up. :anyannoyed:
 

VSoyBoy

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To get away from the new wave for a bit, Reimu and Maria released a Cover for white day:

Interestingly, it's originally a Hololive song.

Scarle is curiously teasing something that is at least half a year away still:

If anything, this will at least lay to rest any rrats that she is looking to graduate soon.
 

Azehara

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4.7 on their 2.0 which is still good. I exepect that after a week or two when the honeymoon period is over they will probably stabilize into a 600-1000 ccv range which is fairly good. For the love of god Niji, dont fuck something up.
 

La+ de Central Norte

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Joined:  Apr 23, 2023
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4.7 on their 2.0 which is still good. I exepect that after a week or two when the honeymoon period is over they will probably stabilize into a 600-1000 ccv range which is fairly good. For the love of god Niji, dont fuck something up.
Seeing a Livestream IN JAPANESE and the Nijisanji EN Logo its too funny
 

Superduper Samurai

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Seeing a Livestream IN JAPANESE and the Nijisanji EN Logo its too funny
he seemingly did both EN and JP
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Looks like the MO will be to always have a JP nigga on EN to double dip on both markets
 

Azehara

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Seeing a Livestream IN JAPANESE and the Nijisanji EN Logo its too funny
Guess he is the VTA dodging talent for this wave.

Seems this one is doing a bit better on the numbers.
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Very good numbers honestly. Maybe Niji got rid of the curse. Although only time will tell in the end. The company needs to stop fucking up if they want to gain back public support.
 

JusticeDog

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All this shows is that Niji's only mistake was rushing a wave so soon after Selen. If they had waited a few months more, they probably would have gotten decent numbers.

Even if these guys end up with "only" 1k ccv after a few weeks, that's still way over the current branch average. Right now there's 3 livers streaming, 2 are at 300 and one almost 1k. They're probably going to overtake everyone but the top 5 in earnings as well once they get monetized. :rikutazumi:
 

Superduper Samurai

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All this shows is that Niji's only mistake was rushing a wave so soon after Selen. If they had waited a few months more, they probably would have gotten decent numbers.

Even if these guys end up with "only" 1k ccv after a few weeks, that's still way over the current branch average. Right now there's 3 livers streaming, 2 are at 300 and one almost 1k. They're probably going to overtake everyone but the top 5 in earnings as well once they get monetized. :rikutazumi:
They also have the male buff, the only remaining market is going to be slightly crazy BFE wishing tards since only indies are the real ones giving that market, since EN Stars are slightly less about that
 

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