MikeNeko Fiasco Thread - 2022 strikes back as MafuMafu and Rushia were married and divorced since her termination - Ongoing Defamation Suit

[nooternun]

Things arent looking good...
If her lawyer isnt fucking Phoenix Wright she is going to lose against MafuMafu

Archived VT thread - https://warosu.org/vt/thread/68601524
Article - https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/37b2f8d2d78946fbc34082e636c82c395f572404
- It looks like she was trying to get Softbank to give her the 5chan posters info and didn't meet the threshold.

It's not as easy as it seems.Tenkai Tsukasa, Koshien co-creator, lost a slander case because 2chan only keeps messages for 3 months. BTW what's with google TL messing up the dates? It translates the documents date as year 2006 or 2016. Annoying.

 

[MerelyTourist]

BTW, i knew one dude, who literally said this: "I don't listen to any songs in english because what if they badmouthing me? It'd be unpleasant."

 

[bothyourhouses]

BTW what's with google TL messing up the dates? It translates the documents date as year 2006 or 2016. Annoying.

Its training data didn't include the new 令和 era, so it can't understand any dates after 2017. That's my theory anyway.

 

[JellyKusa]

[Hobby Scuffles] Week of 5 February, 2024

New Rushia/Mikeneko news just dropped- the Japanese courts have apparently released a record of her past request [to get personal information of...

old.reddit.com

also found a reddit thread with a TL of the stuffs

New Rushia/Mikeneko news just dropped- the Japanese courts have apparently released a record of her past request to get personal information of anonymous posters she claimed slandered her..
Court report here in Japanese.
TL;DR (Also, I've never had to read legalese in Japanese before so apologies in advance for any errors.)

• The court proceedings ended on Oct. 27, 2023, a judgment was passed on Jan. 18.
• The anonymous posts were posted on Aug. 15-16, 2022, so the court request may have been filed around then.
• She hired eight lawyers for this one request. The defendant, the SoftBank Group (presumably because they provided internet/mobile data to the anonymous poster(s)), had only one.

Translation of one of the two anonymous posts in the report:

You should really stop saying things like, "I'm gonna lick this knife," "I wanna kill 'em" at age 33.
It's just creepy.
Act your age!

(The other only contained a redacted URL, apparently to imgur.)
Her five arguments justifying the disclosure of information were:

1. Breach of privacy​

• Judgment: Invalid because Rushia's age is discoverable with a single Google search.

2. Infringing her honour​

• Judgment: It is in fact creepy to say things like "I'm gonna lick this knife," or "I wanna kill 'em," so it wouldn't be considered illegal under Japanese law.

3. Copyright violations​

• Judgment: The image was hosted on an external site (imgur) so linking it isn't illegal since you can't know if the poster uploaded it. (Also it apparently wasn't copyrightable for some reason...? Something about it being editable.)

4. Copyright requirement to source other people's work with a name​

• (Apparently the imgur screenshot cropped out her name)
• Judgment: The wording was kinda confusing for this one, but I think the final judgment was that the name didn't need to be displayed because the image redacted personally identifiable information...?

5. Disclosure is necessary in order to press charges against the anonymous posters​

• There was no specific judgment for this argument.

Most people in the replies and quote-retweets seem to be most amused about the judgment for Argument #2, as a judge told her in polite legalese that they agreed with the anonymous poster.

Also want to highlight this comment about point #2:

To be precise, after a couple paragraphs defining the relevant bits of what constitutes slander in Japanese laws, the judge’s exact words were (translation mine):

Taking the above [definition of slander under Japanese law] into account, the plaintiff’s statements of “I’m gonna lick this knife,” or “I’m gonna kill ‘em,” are in themselves evidently inappropriate, and thus solely when regarding these referenced statements, stating opinions of “It’s just creepy,” or “Act your age!” as admonishments cannot be definitively stated to be actions that cause humiliation that exceed the socially acceptable level.

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Seems like Rushi got 8 laywers involved to get the personal information from a few people who, according to her, slandered her, but she lost the case and is now getting made fun of

 

[nooternun]

[Hobby Scuffles] Week of 5 February, 2024

New Rushia/Mikeneko news just dropped- the Japanese courts have apparently released a record of her past request [to get personal information of...

old.reddit.com

also found a reddit thread with a TL of the stuffs

Also want to highlight this comment about point #2:

archive

Seems like Rushi got 8 laywers involved to get the personal information from a few people who, according to her, slandered her, but she lost the case and is now getting made fun of

How much do JP lawyers cost anyways? She is lucky Softbank only sent one lawyer as she had to pay for them after losing to case.

Looking at the doc I think these are her lawyers
https://legal-leon.jp/member/member1/ - Keisuke Tanaka
https://legal-leon.jp/member/member2/ - Masahiro Yoshinaga
https://pcf-law.com/profile/ - Daisuke Endo
https://legal-leon.jp/member/member5/ - Jun Hasuike
https://www.soudan-form.com/detail/tokyo/908850/print_map/ - Ryosuke Kanda (Is or was from Leon)
https://legal-leon.jp/member/member6/ - Takehiro Kanzaki (dude is in Osaka wtf is he doing here?)
https://legal-leon.jp/member/member7/ - Yuki Suzuki
https://legal-leon.jp/member/member8/ - Seiya Muramatsu

It looks like she hired one firm that puts all these lawyers on the case or something. The odd one out is Endo who is in bumfuck Japan - Iwate. Is that where Mikeneko is now? LEON looking like a bunch of clowns to be fair.

 

[Scoots]

Looks like Mafu wins the menhera trial

Edit: I'm dumb it's a different court case against an anon

 

[Sankisei]

Miguel Unprivated
Follow for trauma dump and schizo posts

 

[Negzana]

Miguel Unprivated
Follow for trauma dump and schizo posts

tldr?

 

[Stunned But Dumb]

Google translate

Depression and PTSD are really hard to cure, and I'm always emotionally unstable, and even when I think I'm feeling better, some trigger causes me to have an attack right away.

Things don't get better in a year, but I was finally able to smile after about two years. I'm at a level where I feel happy to be able to go out to a place that's just a few minutes away. But I'm really happy about this. I often tell the hair salon that it's 3 minutes from my house so I can go home right away. That's what I choose.

 

[Limkin]

Google translate

So how did she sign up for a contract with her VA studio? How was she doing recordings for that totally-not-hentai? Or attending court meetings for that matter. In the last year she was a surprisingly functional adult. If this is the version of events that is in her head, her being holed up in the room for 2 years with barely any recollection of what was happening, then she is even crazier than I thought

 

[Sankisei]

So how did she sign up for a contract with her VA studio? How was she doing recordings for that totally-not-hentai? Or attending court meetings for that matter. In the last year she was a surprisingly functional adult. If this is the version of events that is in her head, her being holed up in the room for 2 years with barely any recollection of what was happening, then she is even crazier than I thought

LOOK

Mike playing with her pussy

 

[Negzana]

doing another handcam stream

 

[Stunned But Dumb]

doing another handcam stream

She can be cute... but... man...

 

[Security]

She can be cute... but... man...

In good evidence that you truly can't be destroyed, she's still a constant 4view.

 

[Negzana]

She can be cute... but... man...

You have a cute girl with a great voice, tall, and likes gothic themed stuff

monkeys paw: She's bipolar to the max, dumb, narcissistic, and has fucked up teeth

 

[nooternun]

LOOK

Mike playing with her pussy

She might be menhera but I can't deny the talent. Her recent cooking video got twice the CCV of Kson's cake video

If you are wondering about indies making money have a video from sensei

- Basically, she made $55k in her birthday month.
Let's take a look at Sensei

Amazon - 1k yen
Both Twitter profiles are at 50k so 100k total and made ~$9k yen
Twitcasting - $55k yen with 1.4k fans
Goods - 418k yen
Youtube - 467k yen
Fanbox - 930k yen
Sponsorship - 1.4m yen
Fantia - 4.1m yen

Compare with
Mikeneko
Youtube CCV and total views are way bigger
Has fanbox - https://mikenekoko.fanbox.cc/
Booth - https://mikenekoko.booth.pm/items/5499035 (the pfp is the original model that she got for free....)
Twitter - 500k
Insta - 200k
Twitcasting - 50k fans and level 50 - she is popular enough to get 6k CCV which get her into the top 20 for CCV of all the users last month

Nazuna
Youtube - 200k
Twitch - 270k
Twitter - 230k
Unless she is going to provide numbers like Sensei we won't ever know how much she makes but I imagine it's quite a lot if we compare the relative numbers. Mikeneko is missing out on the Amazon passive income but while she has so many personalities she isn't gashing her fans by having a Fanbox AND a Fantia.

In good evidence that you truly can't be destroyed, she's still a constant 4view.

And a mid 4view at that, she does well.

 

[Negzana]

She might be menhera but I can't deny the talent. Her recent cooking video got twice the CCV of Kson's cake video

If you are wondering about indies making money have a video from sensei

- Basically, she made $55k in her birthday month.
Let's take a look at Sensei

Amazon - 1k yen
Both Twitter profiles are at 50k so 100k total and made ~$9k yen
Twitcasting - $55k yen with 1.4k fans
Goods - 418k yen
Youtube - 467k yen
Fanbox - 930k yen
Sponsorship - 1.4m yen
Fantia - 4.1m yen

Compare with
Mikeneko
Youtube CCV and total views are way bigger
Has fanbox - https://mikenekoko.fanbox.cc/
Booth - https://mikenekoko.booth.pm/items/5499035 (the pfp is the original model that she got for free....)
Twitter - 500k
Insta - 200k
Twitcasting - 50k fans and level 50 - she is popular enough to get 6k CCV which get her into the top 20 for CCV of all the users last month

Nazuna
Youtube - 200k
Twitch - 270k
Twitter - 230k
Unless she is going to provide numbers like Sensei we won't ever know how much she makes but I imagine it's quite a lot if we compare the relative numbers. Mikeneko is missing out on the Amazon passive income but while she has so many personalities she isn't gashing her fans by having a Fanbox AND a Fantia.

And a mid 4view at that, she does well.

I wish someone could suck out everything good about her and put it into a vtuber more worth it, removing the BDP and teeth.

 

[nooternun]

I wish someone could suck out everything good about her and put it into a vtuber more worth it, removing the BDP and teeth.

A major reason she is so good is the amount of people who want to suck her "everything good".

I think she should collab with Memory and her other sisters. Like as a community service.

Clip of the return stream for everyone

As for the foreigner spreading lies, it's not me Michael Cat.

 

[I Wanna Die]

A major reason she is so good is the amount of people who want to suck her "everything good".

I think she should collab with Memory and her other sisters. Like as a community service.

Clip of the return stream for everyone

As for the foreigner spreading lies, it's not me Michael Cat.

Keep her the fuck away from Phase.

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

Keep her the fuck away from Phase.

But... Phase Invaders JP.

On Muumi's birthday.