MikeNeko Fiasco Thread - 2022 strikes back as MafuMafu and Rushia were married and divorced since her termination - Ongoing Defamation Suit

[La+ de Central Norte]

Remember when people where trying to compare my oshi to this bitch?
Good Fucking Riddance

 

[mysticdreamlife]

Yes....there is no chance in hell that even Fishman can save this sad girl. Because she is more than just a sad girl....she is beyond insane.

She should only ever be streaming in a padded cell, filled with boxes of her "lifetime engagement rings".

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

Remember when people where trying to compare my oshi to this bitch?
Good Fucking Riddance

You can compare anything. The important part is that you find a difference.

In your oshi's case, after briefly dipping into the no males allowed sentiment and going through a menhera episode or two, she realised it is retarded and successfully chased away her unicorns in favor of being happy. That's a pretty notable difference.

 

[I Wanna Die]

These two both lie as easy as they fucking breath huh.

I for one look forward to the murder/suicide.

 

[thirteenorphans]

I've never particularly like Rushia even at the height of her career in Holo, her menhera felt like the wrong type for my enjoyment. Still, it's sad to see how far she's fallen and how karma for all the lies over the years is erupting all over her face. Personally I don't think her career is over, but I don't think she will be hugely successful or popular ever again.

 

[Limkin]

I like when menhera is just an RP act to give a fanservice for that kind of fans, or when it fits the situation, but the girl is actually really sweet and kind otherwise. Or at the very least we know from her coworkers she is like this irl. Like how Lumi always acts like she is a total girlboss and a bitch and mean to chat, but everyone says she is the kindest soul in the company behind the scene. Not when it's turned up to 11 and your entire personality both irl and on screen

 

[Sankisei]

It doesnt work that way for females in japan sadly, unless you are very desperate and dont care she is used


Dont say no if you have not tried

I already tried it before
Maybe a second time will be different

 

[Negzana]

Remember when people where trying to compare my oshi to this bitch?
Good Fucking Riddance

The worst I can say about La+ is she chases ecelebs and uses twitch, but one of my Oshis (Aki) already does the former so I can't bitch
. Plus La+ is like 21 and still has years to grow and and straighten up, Rushia's in her mid 30s. The only real similarity is both are insanely talented but menhera to varying degrees.

I like when menhera is just an RP act to give a fanservice for that kind of fans, or when it fits the situation, but the girl is actually really sweet and kind otherwise. Or at the very least we know from her coworkers she is like this irl. Like how Lumi always acts like she is a total girlboss and a bitch and mean to chat, but everyone says she is the kindest soul in the company behind the scene. Not when it's turned up to 11 and your entire personality both irl and on screen

I prefer autism experience, or Haachama style menhera if anything.

 

[RiverBear]

Remember when people where trying to compare my oshi to this bitch?
Good Fucking Riddance

Your whore of an oshi is still looking for an out from the corp
Save your breath - You won't have a Hololive oshi before this year ends.

EDIT: HOLY SHIT, DID RUSHINEKO REALLY JUST CONFIRM SHE WAS MARRIED TO MAFUMAFU?

 

[I Wanna Die]

I like when menhera is just an RP act to give a fanservice for that kind of fans, or when it fits the situation, but the girl is actually really sweet and kind otherwise. Or at the very least we know from her coworkers she is like this irl. Like how Lumi always acts like she is a total girlboss and a bitch and mean to chat, but everyone says she is the kindest soul in the company behind the scene. Not when it's turned up to 11 and your entire personality both irl and on screen

Has there ever been a Rushia-type menhera that was just an act?

 

[Negzana]

Has there ever been a Rushia-type menhera that was just an act?

The only similar case I know of is Shondo but that's definitely not an act she's a total schizo

Maybe Dizzy? I don't know what the hell kind of rp experience she's doing but it's some flavor of clingy menhera.

 

[I Wanna Die]

The only similar case I know of is Shondo but that's definitely not an act she's a total schizo

Maybe Dizzy? I don't know what the hell kind of rp experience she's doing but it's some flavor of clingy menhera.

Dizzy is definitely menhera irl.

 

[Shuba]

Japan court stuff is usually kept private afaik. What'll probably happen after this is that for a few months or years, we hear nothing related to the case from either of them. They both said they'll try to keep up their singing and voice acting careers while the legal stuff progresses (lmao). Then one day, the news will randomly say that one of them won the trial.

But considering who we're talking about, there's a chance someone will leak or say something to the detriment of themselves, resulting in further stupidity and comedy. And for that someone to be Rushineko.

This is now a bunch of "he said she said" nonsense but with ten times the amount of menhera. They're both untrustworthy, mentally unstable, lied for years for the sake of public image and are still lying with these statements they just made. Part of me will always miss the good times the Hologirls had with Rushia but at this point, the dumpster fire has become an inferno and it definitely is an entertaining one.

 

[Seth]

Mafumafu started a twitcasting 10min long right before Miguel dropped her statement. I didnt watch it as i dont speak japanese but apparently he waa crying so much that he couldnt talk or some shit


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Also tweeted this pitytweet.

まふまふ＠みかん on X: "こんなどうしようもない自分に、優しい言葉をかけてくださって本当にありがとうございます。そんな言葉に釣り合うような人間になります。胸張って応援してるといってもらえるような、みんなが一緒にいて恥ずかしくないような人間になります。一生忘れず、これからも生きていきます。本当にありがとう。" / X | Ghostarchive

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Spoiler: DeepL translation

Thank you so much for your kind words to this helpless me. I will become a person who is worthy of such words. I will become the kind of person that everyone would be proud to say they support, the kind of person that no one would be ashamed to be with. I will never forget them and will continue to live my life. Thank you so much.

 

[Poyoyo & Jill]

Japan court stuff is usually kept private afaik. What'll probably happen after this is that for a few months or years, we hear nothing related to the case from either of them. They both said they'll try to keep up their singing and voice acting careers while the legal stuff progresses (lmao). Then one day, the news will randomly say that one of them won the trial.

But considering who we're talking about, there's a chance someone will leak or say something to the detriment of themselves, resulting in further stupidity and comedy. And for that someone to be Rushineko.

This is now a bunch of "he said she said" nonsense but with ten times the amount of menhera. They're both untrustworthy, mentally unstable, lied for years for the sake of public image and are probably still lying with these statements they just made. Part of me will always miss the good times the Hologirls had with Rushia but at this point, the dumpster fire has become an inferno and it definitely is an entertaining one.

Well yeah they married for a reason
MF: "Hey i am fucking crazy"
MK: "No way me too , wanna get married?"
MF:"Sure"

 

[Punished Lurker]

What I find remarkable is that the rrating at the time of Rushia's graduation was all wrong. From both directions. The people who insisted that the pictures showing the same room/tableware for Mafumafu & Rushia were totes a coincidence were, of course, blatantly coping, but amazingly, even the people insisting on it being true that the two of them were in a relationship didn't picture them being married. The usual rrat was that they were together, and mafumafu was hesitant about marrying, so Rushia tried to force his hand.

Nope. They'd already gone all the way. Even the rratiest of rraters were still a ways off, and in an entirely different direction than expected.

Rushia proved them wrong in an entirely unexpected fashion.

This was just what I was thinking about, like Mike just admitted she really got married in 2021. With all that we know now, and the information that may come in the future it casts a whole new light to everything that happened back in 2022. After everything had already passed I really thought Rushia had a super menhera moment after receiving the discord message and leaking information to Korekore was the reason she got fired. But I don't think even the most schizo fan would have said they were married, like it's such a huge thing that was completely kept under wraps for 2-3 years, it's kinda crazy.

 

[frz]

Some mikeneko fans crying, with my basic japanese all I can hear is "give me back" x 10000
Unsure if he means give him back the donations or his beloved rushia between all his crying and shouting.
Also there's a girl in the discord named "I love mikeneko" telling him to calm down.
Why does michael have so many female fans.

Mikeneko's statement (copied from Airless at KF)

Spoiler: original text

いつも応援して下さりありがとうございます。

この度は、私事でお騒がせしており申し訳ありません。
また、この度このような形で皆様にお知らせする形になり、重ねてお詫び申し上げます。

既に情報が出ている通り、私は、まふまふさんと、2021年に入籍し、2022年に離婚をしております。
配信者という職業柄、様々なしがらみがあり、結果として皆様に嘘をつくこととなってしまいました。
応援してくださっている皆様、本当に申し訳ございませんでした。

また、今回の騒動の件は、あくまで、私と彼との間で起きた個人的な事柄であり、彼のプライバシー等を考慮すれば、二人の間に起きたことを、世間に公表すべきではないと考えておりました。
しかしながら、あまりにも一方的な言い分を公表されてしまい、私としても言及せざるを得ないと考えております。
詳細な内容は訴訟等で明らかにする予定ですが、最低限皆様にお伝えすべきことをお伝えできればと思い、今回、この文章を公開することといたしました。

・二股について
私は、彼と婚姻中、B男さんと二股などしておりません。
B男さんとは、結婚前に、一度お会いしたことがありますが、所謂デートをしたこともなければ、それ以降一度もお会いしたこともありません。もちろん、男女の関係をもったことも一度もありません。B男さんに確認すればわかることであり、彼も知っていることだと思います。
LINEのやりとりが公開されており、その内容から浮気を疑われて然るべきだというお声をいただいており、その点は反省しております。
しかしながら、あくまで、その場のノリや冗談で送ったメッセージであり、上記の通り、B男さんとは、結婚後一度もお会いすらしていません。

・婚姻生活について
婚姻生活中、私が彼の浮気を疑い、彼を問いただしたというのは事実です。それが彼を追い詰めてしまっていたのであれば、申し訳ないと思いますが、私が彼にモラハラをしたり、執拗に束縛をしていたというのは私の認識と異なります。
離婚協議でも決着は着いている認識です。当時の離婚の協議を担当してくださった先生も、今後の裁判で時系列や出来事も含め、現在の彼との裁判を担当している弁護士の先生に情報提供や協力をして下さるとのことです。
また、訴訟中ですので、詳細は割愛させていただきますが、私にも浮気を疑うそれ相応の理由がありました。探偵を雇ったわけではないので、客観的な証拠はありませんので断言はできません。でも、私もなんの理由もないのに闇雲に彼を疑ったりはしません。
そのような中で、彼も私の浮気を疑い、お互いが相手を信頼しきれない状態が続いていたのだと思います。
私ばかりが、彼を異常に拘束していたかのような配信となっておりましたが、彼も私に対して、他の男性と連絡を取ることを禁止していましたし、連絡を取る際は事前に伝えるという約束になっていました。

・離婚の協議について
配信で、彼は、私が離婚にあたって、当初はお金の請求をしていたが、B男さんとの関係が明るみに出て、金銭の請求は無くなったといった趣旨の発言をしていましたが、事実ではありません。
まず、私が彼に金銭的な請求をしていたのは、モラハラとあまりにも一方的な離婚の申し入れを理由にしたものです。この点についても、名誉毀損等の問題が生じる可能性があるとのことで、ここで詳細を書くことは控えさせていただきます。なお、浮気の件は、客観的な証拠がなく、あくまで疑惑にとどまるため、弁護士さんから主張を控えるように助言をいただいたため、言及はしませんでした。

私が、親戚に彼のことを相談したところ、親戚が怒って、私と親戚のやりとりを公表してしまい、それが彼の権利を侵害する可能性があったため、私の弁護士さんと協議の上、双方金銭のやり取りはなしで、離婚をすることにしたのです。

・彼に対する誹謗中傷について
　私が、彼に関して複数の投稿を行ったことは事実です。それについて、彼が訴訟を提起したことも事実です。この点は、大変申し訳なく思います。当時、事務所との契約が終了し、そのタイミングで彼から離婚を切り出され、その後しばらく精神的に追い詰められており、離婚後に、私の思いをインターネット上に投稿をしてしまいました。本当に申し訳ありません。
　ただ、弁護士の方から、訴訟のことはあまり触れないように言われているので、詳細は書きませんが、その投稿の多くは、私の弁護士さんの見解では、違法とまでは評価できないだろうというものです。
　また、私は、自ら投稿したことを認め、彼と弁護士さんを通じて、彼に謝罪をした上で、示談交渉を行いました。
　しかしながら、彼から、①私が全ての配信者名義での活動一切を休止すること、②SNSを使用しないこと、③彼の要求する内容の声明文を出すこと、④慰謝料１００万円を支払うことなどの条件が提示されました。

　当時私は事務所との契約が終了し、生活にも不安があったため、彼の提案に応じることができず、示談での解決が叶わなかったため、訴訟に至った次第です。
　訴訟の中では、問題の投稿とは直接関係のないような、私と彼の馴れ初めや、彼の一方的で事実と異なる記載で溢れており、辛辣な表現も多々見受けられ、弁護士さんからも「これはあまりにも行き過ぎである。訴訟を通じて不必要に私を貶めるような個人攻撃をしているに等しい」と意見をいただいたため、私も彼に対して、反訴を提起した上で、警察に告訴状を提出し、受理されました。
・元交際相手と虚偽の流布について
彼は、配信で、私が元交際相手に関連して、性的暴行を受け、妊娠させられたと虚偽の情報を流しているといった発言をしております。
しかしながら、一切事実ではありません。あまりにも酷い言い分だと思います。
逆に、元交際相手の作曲家さんは、私と交際中に、別の女性と同棲をしていることが発覚し、被害を受けたのは私の方です。

・ペットに関して
　彼の配信で、私が濁った汚い水を猫に飲ませていたという趣旨の発言がありましたが、事実ではありません。
　私は猫を大切に飼育していました。彼が撮影したという写真は、私が家を出た後の水だと思われます。ペットを飼っている方であればわかると思いますが、水をあげて、その水を猫が飲んで少し時間が経てば、猫の唾液や体毛で水が濁ります。水は頻繁に交換していました。
　また、濁った水ではなければ猫が飲まないなどと意味のわからない説明を行うはずがありません。
　また、ペットの遺骨をゴミと一緒に置き去りにしたとありますが、誤解があります。
　まず、ペットの遺骨というのは、猫ではなくハムスターの遺骨です。大切に飼育していたので、亡くなった際に、埋葬屋さんにお願いをして火葬をして、きちんと遺骨として大切に保管していました。
　しかしながら、離婚に伴い、引っ越しをしなければならないバタバタの中で、遺骨を彼の家に置き忘れてしまいました。そのため、私は、私の弁護士さんに、彼に遺骨を返してほしいと伝えるようにお願いをしましたが、現在も返ってきていません。

・最後に
　現在彼に対して、民事と刑事の双方で対応を行っております。また、今回の彼の声明や配信についても、あまりにも一方的な内容であり、弁護士さんと相談の上、本当に不本意ではありますが、そちらについても民事刑事双方で対応を行なっていくこととなりました。
　こちらとしても、一度は生涯を誓った相手とこのような紛争になることは全く望んでおりませんでした。彼に対する投稿を行なった私に非があるのは十分承知しています。
　しかしながら、訴訟において、問題の投稿とは直接関係のない事実無根の内容を主張され、かつ、当該訴訟において、こちらの反論や主張を提出しているにもかかわらず、彼からそれら一切を無視した発信をされるのは本当に辛いです。
　皆さんを笑顔にすべき立場の私が、このようなお見苦しいプライベートな事柄で皆様をお騒がせしてしまっていることは、大変申し訳なく存じます。
　なお、今回の件は、あくまでプライベートでの出来事です。本件に関して、彼に対する誹謗中傷がなされることは望んでおりませんので、そういった行為はお控えください。
　また、今回の騒動を踏まえて、私に対して、あまりにも度を超えた誹謗中傷がたくさんされています。そういった投稿については、引き続き法的な対応を行なってまいります。

　引き続き、配信者としての活動は継続してまいりますので、辛い状況ではありますが、皆様を笑顔にできるよう、頑張ってまいります。

Spoiler: deepl

Thank you for your continued support.

I am sorry for the personal trouble that I have caused you.
I would also like to apologize again for having to inform you all in this manner.

As has already been reported, I entered into marriage with Mr. Mafumafu in 2021, and we divorced in 2022.
As a distributor, I am bound by various ties to my profession, and as a result, I have had to lie to all of you.
I am truly sorry to all of you who have supported me.

I also thought that the matter of this disturbance was a personal matter between me and him, and that I should not disclose to the public what had happened between us, considering his privacy and so on.
However, he has made so many one-sided arguments public that I feel compelled to mention them.
We plan to clarify the details in a lawsuit, etc., but I have decided to make this statement public in the hope that it will at least convey what needs to be conveyed to you.

About the two-timing
I did not have a two-timing relationship with Mr. B while I was married to him.
I met Mr. B once before our marriage, but we never had a so-called date, nor have we seen each other since then. Of course, I have never had a sexual relationship with Mr. B. This is something I can confirm with Mr. B, and I think he knows about it.
We have received comments that the exchange of LINEs was public and that the contents of the exchanges should have led to suspicion of cheating, and we regret that.
However, the messages were sent in a casual and joking manner, and as stated above, I have not even met Mr. B once after our marriage.

About our married life
It is true that during our marriage, I suspected him of cheating on me and questioned him. I am sorry if that had driven him away, but it is not my perception that I had been harassing him or constraining him persistently.
It is also my perception that the divorce settlement has been finalized. The doctor who was in charge of the divorce discussions at the time will also provide information and cooperation to the lawyer who is currently in charge of the trial with him, including the timeline and events in the upcoming trial.
Also, since the case is in litigation, I will not go into details, but I had reasonable grounds to suspect that he was cheating on me. I did not hire a detective, so I have no objective evidence, so I cannot say for sure. But I also would not suspect him in the dark without any reason.
In such a situation, he also suspected me of cheating on him, and I think both of us were in a state where we could not fully trust each other.
He also forbade me from contacting other men, and we agreed to tell each other in advance when we were going to contact each other.

...Regarding the divorce agreement.
In the delivery, he made a statement to the effect that I had initially requested money in the divorce, but that the request for money ceased after my relationship with Mr. B came to light, which is not true.
First of all, my financial claims against him were based on the grounds of moral harassment and a too unilateral request for divorce. I will refrain from writing about this point in detail here because of the possibility of defamation and other issues that may arise. In addition, I did not mention the affair because I was advised by my lawyer to refrain from making allegations because there was no objective evidence and it was only an allegation.

When I discussed him with my relatives, they became angry and published my correspondence with them, which could have violated his rights, so after discussing the matter with my lawyer, we decided to divorce, with no financial exchange on either side.

. regarding the slander against him.
　It is true that I have made several posts about him. It is also true that he has filed a lawsuit against me for it. I am very sorry about this. At that time, my contract with the firm was terminated, and he asked me for a divorce at that time. I was mentally trapped for a while after that, and after the divorce, I posted my thoughts and feelings on the Internet. I am truly sorry.
　However, my lawyer told me not to mention much about the lawsuit, so I won't go into details, but many of those posts would not even be rated as illegal in my lawyer's opinion.
　I also acknowledged that I had made the postings myself, apologized to him and through my lawyer, and negotiated a settlement with him.
　However, he presented me with the following conditions: 1) I must suspend all activities under the name of all distributors, 2) I must not use SNS, 3) I must issue a statement of what he demanded, and 4) I must pay him 1 million yen in compensation.

　At the time, my contract with the firm was terminated and I was anxious about my livelihood, so I was unable to accept his proposal, and since a settlement could not be achieved, I decided to file a lawsuit.
　The lawsuit was full of his one-sided and factually incorrect statements, including his familiarity with me, which were not directly related to the post in question, and there were many harsh expressions, and my lawyer told me, "This is too much. I was also given the opinion that "this is tantamount to a personal attack that unnecessarily humiliates me through a lawsuit," so I filed a countersuit against him and then submitted a complaint to the police, which was accepted.
. regarding my former dating partner and false distribution.
He has stated in his e-mail that he has been spreading false information that I was sexually assaulted and impregnated in relation to my ex-boyfriend.
However, none of this is true. I think this is too terrible a statement.
On the contrary, my former dating partner, a composer, discovered that he was living with another woman while he was in a relationship with me, and I was the one who was victimized.

. regarding pets.
　He made a statement in his delivery to the effect that I was giving my cat murky, dirty water to drink, which is not true.
　I took good care of my cat. The pictures that he said he took were supposedly of the water after I left the house. As any pet owner will know, if you give water and the cat drinks that water and a little time passes, the water becomes cloudy with the cat's saliva and body hair. The water was changed frequently.
　Also, there is no way they would give an explanation that makes no sense, such as if the water was not cloudy, the cat would not drink it.
　Also, there is a misunderstanding about the pet remains being left behind with the garbage.
　First of all, the pet remains are the remains of a hamster, not a cat. I took good care of her, so when she died, I asked a burial service to cremate her and properly store her remains as her remains.
　However, in the flurry of having to move in the wake of my divorce, I left the remains at his house. Therefore, I asked my lawyer to tell him to return the remains to me, but they have not been returned to me to this day.

...Finally.
　We are currently taking both civil and criminal action against him. In addition, his statement and delivery this time were too one-sided, and after consulting with my lawyer, we have decided to take both civil and criminal action against him as well, although we are truly unwilling to do so.
　I did not want to get into this kind of dispute with the person to whom I once made a lifelong commitment. I am fully aware that I am at fault for the postings I made against him.
　However, it is really painful to see that in the lawsuit, he claims factual allegations that are not directly related to the post in question, and that he ignores all of my rebuttals and arguments that I have submitted in the lawsuit.
　I am very sorry that I, who am in a position to make you smile, have caused you to be disturbed by such an unflattering private matter.
　Please note that this is a private matter. I do not wish any slander to be made against him in connection with this matter, so please refrain from such actions.
　In addition, in light of the current turmoil, there have been a lot of slanderous posts against me that have gone too far. I will continue to take legal action against such postings.

　I will continue my activities as a distributor, and I will do my best to bring smiles to everyone's faces despite the difficult situation.

My take: score 1 from Mafu, he striked first against Miguel which forced her to issue a statement. Miguel's statement was defensive, she knows if she lies here she'll get eaten up by Mafu's lawyers. Her not denying most of Mafu's statements shows to me that the truth has caught up with her. I also read the leaked messages and it just paints her as a lying bitch, trying to shift the blame all unto Mafu. Who knows though, both are Menhera AF but Mafu is winning this one by a mile. He's not innocent but Miguel is the one who's career will end after this unless she provides substantial evidence that Mafu was a bigger piece of shit than her. It's still fucking January but my God, it feels like Christmas with all these vtuber related dramas that has been happening.




Here's one thing I've noticed about Miguel: She may be dumb but she's cunning. She knows how to play your emotions that's why she's so good at roping the paypigs. She's evil, befitting her necromancer persona.

Ngl... I kinda sided with mikeneko here?
Did the dude literally just married her because she is in hololive, fucked her career by the discord message and ask for divorce the moment she's kicked out? And then cry on the internet "I can't love anyone My friends and family disagree and think that I'm only married for the money" then demand 1 million yen the moment she is fired?

 

[agility_]

Thread summary: two fucked up nutjobs get married, they buy a house, they get divorced. Then ensuing fallout fuels their collective cults with enough rratting that would make the 2016 presidential election seem like an orderly and humane story of goodwill and philosophical debate.

 

[Larocka]

If he was trying to get something out of this thru the courts it looks like the tabloid stuff just fucked him over.

 

[Negzana]

Imma agree with anon here

Mfmf admitted nothing, like he is an alien that can't do anything wrong. Mike is a menhera but not really the type to lie. She got fired from Hololive because she couldn't chill or lie

Let's read between the lines here
Mfmf "killed" her cat. He probably hit it on accident and she flipped out. Mike is crazy but who keeps a blind 16 year old cat and doesn't take good care of it?
Mfmf wasn't forced to go to discord, they just thought it would be easier then getting texts. Ironic, considering the termination
Mfmf shows some random boxes. Plenty of holos live like that. Also, he doesn't clarify the urn is of a hamster not the cat
Mfmf fake cried on a drama channel for clout

Look I liked Rushinekozuna as much as the next guy but there's a point where you have to cut your losses and admit that your waifu is an insane psychobitch. Your main goal now is to hope your replacement oshi isn't as bad.