Kirsche Verstahl

[The Proctor]

I kind of feel bad that Save A Fox's death does... absolutely nothing to me. I just can't get into the mindset needed to kill yourself over the internet, especially when you have a husband and child.

 

[Azehara]

I kind of feel bad that Save A Fox's death does... absolutely nothing to me. I just can't get into the mindset needed to kill yourself over the internet, especially when you have a husband and child.

I am of the same opinion as you. The overall outcome of things is sad, sure but this woman should have not been on the internet. Maybe have someone to do that shit for her.

 

[Negronald Trump]

I kind of feel bad that Save A Fox's death does... absolutely nothing to me. I just can't get into the mindset needed to kill yourself over the internet, especially when you have a husband and child.

Troon redditors were harassing her.

Fuck those gay bitches.

 

[reinigen]

You're a little off.

Kirsche's audience are not the same audience as other VTubers. That's precisely WHY she's successful. Kirsche's audience are predominantly single and married men who are in their 25's - 40's. They're almost all post-college grads with jobs. Some are wage slaves (me), some are well adjusted people with a family and kids (several of Kirsche's own moderators).

This audience has WAY more money to throw around than zoomers who are using their mom's credit card to send akasupas to their oshi.

That's why Kirsche can consistently have lower CCVs than Hololive VTubers, but still make #1. Others have numbers, Kirsche has "oil barons" lol

This is exactly it. Kirsche has a unique audience base amongst VTubers because she is the only one filling the niche she occupies, and these retards just don't realize it yet. Her demographic is unique because she has many bases she covers - current events, right of center commentary, weird internet bullshit, nostalgia gaming, and high levels of audience interaction. I've referred to her niche as "Your best non-romantic female highschool friend you still go to the bar and shoot the shit with" experience.

And Bint just can't fucking FATHOM how any of that works. You see it regularly in the tweets he makes. I can't find it right now, but I remember there was one after Kirsche topped the Superchat list for 3 days straight when the tide started turning on Valens. He basically made a tweet that was like, "I don't understand how she's getting so much money. I think they're conspiring to pool their money to make her artificially appear on the leaderboards to inflate her standing" (however that fucking makes sense to him). Or the one where he was saying shit like "Kirsche will never have what she truly desires - widespread acceptance in the greater VTuber community".

Or take a look at these tweets he made earlier today -


Like, the amount of COPE in those tweets is unbelievable. Based on rough estimates through ChatGPT and the amount she said she paid in taxes last year, people estimate she made ~350k last year. And she's made 160k from GAMERSUPPS MERCH ALONE this year. She's literally in the top 2-3% of income earners in the United States. How is this retard talking like her making money is some conspiratorial fluke?

And if her model is so shit and she's STILL making this kind of money, doesn't that speak to her quality as an entertainer? That she can pull those numbers without a Hololive/Ironmouse/Dooby tier model? Imagine when she actually manages to get a decent model how that will effect her.

And then the cope of "She's not in the top 500 vTubers in terms of subs". Who fucking cares, if you watch /lig/ (Large Indies Global on 4chan) her streams are CONSISTENTLY in the top 10 for CCV the days she streams. On top of that, subs mean nothing. What did Rin Penrose's 850k+ subs get her on her stream after her virtue signal? Literally only $20 in superchats. What did Kirsche's less than 100k subs get her on her next stream? Literally top 3 superchats. And that's not counting her bits and StreamElements donations either. These morons just dont' understand how much above her size Kirsche punches.

 

[Sven]

And if her model is so shit and she's STILL making this kind of money, doesn't that speak to her quality as an entertainer? That she can pull those numbers without a Hololive/Ironmouse/Dooby tier model? Imagine when she actually manages to get a decent model how that will effect her.

This to me has always been a big thing with Vtibers that many seem to fail to realize. You can spend a fortune getting the most over-rigged amazing model in the world or a basic one with giant tits as seems the other popular route, but if your a shit entertainer it will only hold the interest of people only in it for the model which is not a huge audience. A good model will help draw eyes to you but you have to be able to hold them past said models shine to succeed.

 

[Abomination]

Holy hell, I know "cope and seethe" is used as a snarky response a lot, but this retard is just constantly coping and seething over Kirsche. He's really just trying to thrown every little thing at the wall and praying that something sticks.

 

[MerelyTourist]

Foxu literally every single stream: I want to buy a decent house in expensive region, fix it and not get in debt for life while doing so.
non-watchers: Why she don't spend her money on anything? Does she just hoard it?
gee, why indeed?

 

[PleaseCheckYourReceipts]

You're a little off.

Kirsche's audience are not the same audience as other VTubers. That's precisely WHY she's successful. Kirsche's audience are predominantly single and married men who are in their 25's - 40's. They're almost all post-college grads with jobs. Some are wage slaves (me), some are well adjusted people with a family and kids (several of Kirsche's own moderators).

This audience has WAY more money to throw around than zoomers who are using their mom's credit card to send akasupas to their oshi.

That's why Kirsche can consistently have lower CCVs than Hololive VTubers, but still make #1. Others have numbers, Kirsche has "oil barons" lol

She's also chosen sponsor relations pretty well, along with being with Mythic. There's a couple of agents in the "Content Creator" space that know how to handle accounts well and they make their clients absolute bank. She also, as mentioned, hits the demographic well. She's fits that chatty girl you knew in high school but weren't necessarily into, but she's great to have around in the group setting because she'll keep it lively. Super strong "oh, invite Kirsche to the BBQ this weekend" energy.

Also, for as questionable as her technical understanding can be, she's quite bright. She's very perceptive, which is a rare trait in general, while also having done through the cesspool of the internet like her primary demographic. A strong group bonding over "ah, not this shit again" moments.

I kind of feel bad that Save A Fox's death does... absolutely nothing to me. I just can't get into the mindset needed to kill yourself over the internet, especially when you have a husband and child.

I am of the same opinion as you. The overall outcome of things is sad, sure but this woman should have not been on the internet. Maybe have someone to do that shit for her.

Apparently, they had turned a bunch of her IRL friends/colleagues as well. This one stretched a lot further than Internet harassment. Also, can you guess who the people that drove this identified as? I'm sure it'll be sadly obvious.