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HoloAdvent En3 Talent Discussion/Debut Thread

ValkyrieAce

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It doesn't help that one is a pure hornybaiter and another is just crazy goth GFE right out of the box. But leave the dogs and rock alone, you sickos!
 

Not-Username

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What I also noticed is the rise of plain wrong en subtitles for en speech.
Really distracting and obnoxiously often
 

Limkin

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It doesn't help that one is a pure hornybaiter and another is just crazy goth GFE right out of the box. But leave the dogs and rock alone, you sickos!
The rock found out the other day that Neririn was not, in fact, considerate of her being in the same room and did not wear anything underneath. She just assumed that no sane person would wear nothing but a shirt. Missed the keyword. Also, will unicorns anti Neririn if she seriously goes for the pussy and not just "haha I like girls" bait? You don't live as an idolfag for so long without a couple of loose screws
 

Thomas Talus

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What I also noticed is the rise of plain wrong en subtitles for en speech.
Really distracting and obnoxiously often
That's been a thing for at least 6 months, I presume people are just directly pasting YT's auto-subtitles into their video editing programs.

Pippa's own shorts have the problem, and she knows what she said.
 

El Rrata

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It doesn't help that one is a pure hornybaiter and another is just crazy goth GFE right out of the box. But leave the dogs and rock alone, you sickos!
I hope Nerissa chills with the coomer shit and is just using it to drum up interest and views because I enjoy every other aspect of her. It isn't even ridiculously bad, she just needs to tone it down, imo. She doesn't have the same level of rapport yet to pull it off where it is not awkward, like with Kiara.
 

Nenélove

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I hope Nerissa chills with the coomer shit and is just using it to drum up interest and views because I enjoy every other aspect of her. It isn't even ridiculously bad, she just needs to tone it down, imo. She doesn't have the same level of rapport yet to pull it off where it is not awkward, like with Kiara.
She's just wayyyyy too much of a Holo simp and can't keep her spaghetti from spilling all over.
 

El Rrata

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She's just wayyyyy too much of a Holo simp and can't keep her spaghetti from spilling all over.
Those times aren't the issue. I think the Ollie-level simping and flirting with talents is funny. I mean stuff like this:



And some other stuff in her streams. It isn't a lot or any heinous-tier coomery, just kinda weird so soon after debut.

Edit: speaking of Nerissa, she is back in Kiara's stream again, lol
 
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Shuba

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Whenever Nerissa tries to be coomerbait, she just comes off as that awkward white girl trying to fit in. It's whatever if she wants to lean into it from time to time but she needs to first get used to streaming and then establish herself more beyond that. Like we know Hololive, most of these girls are degenerates and proud of it. But they also took the time to create identities and personalities for themselves that aren't affected by the occasional degen joke or coomerbait. There are the special cases like Marine/Choco of course but that's a different story.

Basically it's too early for her to be baiting that much. And it isn't even that much but it is noticeable. That said, this is still week 1 so it's alright for now. She has all the time in the world to change how she wants to do things. She's still incredibly enjoyable otherwise and has quite a lot going for her.


Edit: On an unrelated note, I've been going through the Spooky's Jump Scare vod and I noticed Fuwawa is REALLY good at changing her Live2D expressions quickly. It's subtle so many of the girls don't focus on it but it's notable when done well. Subaru and Miko are good examples of how much it can add to comedic effect.
 
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Jolted Cookies

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Basically it's too early for her to be baiting that much. And it isn't even that much but it is noticeable. That said, this is still week 1 so it's alright for now. She has all the time in the world to change how she wants to do things. She's still incredibly enjoyable otherwise and has quite a lot going for her.
Everything is going to be magnified a thousandfold by whatever these ladies do during the debut window. Even as we agree that it's really not that bad, we still want her to cool her jets on the coom. Don't be boring, just mindful. First impressions are a thing; JP bros have already given her the name "no-pan nee san".

There's no helping the simping though. If she's as big a fan as she let's on, you gotta just let her live the dream.
 

EliteDoragon

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Edit: On an unrelated note, I've been going through the Spooky's Jump Scare vod and I noticed Fuwawa is REALLY good at changing her Live2D expressions quickly. It's subtle so many of the girls don't focus on it but it's notable when done well. Subaru and Miko are good examples of how much it can add to comedic effect.
They are probably the most professional in the entire EN branch regarding being idols AND vtubers. It's crazy that it took them like 5 auditions to even be considered, especially when you look at their public work.

They aren't just streaming with a vtuber avatar. They are puppeteering their model and also keeping a solid kayfabe. We will see if they can keep all of it up though.
 

Tuwuturu

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If there really was a change in the management approach, I'm thinking they're trying out a few things with this Gen, probably, to help them establish their core audiences early on before losing the debut shine. Week 2 is going to start giving us an idea of how they perform and if the more coomer ones get leashed by management. Kills me whenever I see them flirt in twitter because it's so out of nowhere. :tomorrow:
 

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Edit: On an unrelated note, I've been going through the Spooky's Jump Scare vod and I noticed Fuwawa is REALLY good at changing her Live2D expressions quickly. It's subtle so many of the girls don't focus on it but it's notable when done well. Subaru and Miko are good examples of how much it can add to comedic effect.
Miko and shuba elevated that to an artform.
I have to look more into fuwawa. But she had her hands most of the time free as mococo steered the game (aside from the shift part)
Kiara is also getting good at it, but has sometimes noticable delay...but she at least uses it. Sora and her gangimari usage also come to mind

I find it very amusing when you can clearly see the model shifting when most of them look at their bindings to change.
Prime example is a-chan
 

Shuba

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There's no helping the simping though. If she's as big a fan as she let's on, you gotta just let her live the dream.
I hope she keeps the simping up if anything. There's no problem with that as long as she doesn't make it her entire personality imo. She's living the dream and has every right to show how much she loves it. We've seen it multiple times now and it's both incredibly sweet and adorable as heck. Lamy/Lui/Reine with Marine, Laplus with Towa, Iroha with Suisei, Kaela with Watame, Ollie with basically everyone etc. It's such a feelsgood story when a huge fan joins and gets to talk to their oshi. And clearly Kiara loves it just as much as Nerissa does.
 

El Rrata

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I hope she keeps the simping up if anything. There's no problem with that as long as she doesn't make it her entire personality imo. She's living the dream and has every right to show how much she loves it. We've seen it multiple times now and it's both incredibly sweet and adorable as heck. Lamy/Lui/Reine with Marine, Laplus with Towa, Iroha with Suisei, Kaela with Watame, Ollie with basically everyone etc. It's such a feelsgood story when a huge fan joins and gets to talk to their oshi. And clearly Kiara loves it just as much as Nerissa does.
I'd like to see someone compile a list of her simping just to call her out on how much she does it and meme it up as her two-timing people
 

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I'd like to see someone compile a list of her simping just to call her out on how much she does it and meme it up as her two-timing people
Doubt that will work considering her "harem-pact" with Ollie :whatastory:
 

Aquatic Novellite

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I hope Nerissa chills with the coomer shit and is just using it to drum up interest and views because I enjoy every other aspect of her. It isn't even ridiculously bad, she just needs to tone it down, imo. She doesn't have the same level of rapport yet to pull it off where it is not awkward, like with Kiara.
It not being awkward when Kiara does it is more a matter of personal preference, tbh. It strikes me as pretty awkward when Kiara does it, too.

It does admittedly not help that outside here and /vt/, vtuber fans are absolutely braindead and think of the coomer bait as the height of comedy while otherwise reading on a third grade level at best. To say that there are incentives for vtubers to do this shit is somewhat underselling it.
 

Horo7618

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It not being awkward when Kiara does it is more a matter of personal preference, tbh. It strikes me as pretty awkward when Kiara does it, too.
That's fair, but she was so much worse about it back in the peak TakaMori days that current Kiara doesn't bother me much.
 

Sithis

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I hope Nerissa chills with the coomer shit and is just using it to drum up interest and views because I enjoy every other aspect of her. It isn't even ridiculously bad, she just needs to tone it down, imo. She doesn't have the same level of rapport yet to pull it off where it is not awkward, like with Kiara.
I agree, and the constant yuribaiting has potential to be even more cancerous than BaeRyS or TakaMori.
The menhera overdose of Nerissa and Shiori have made me value FuwaMoco and Biboo that much more, because they're just there to be CGDCT
 

46gumi

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I feel her pain. These fucking clippers have been obnoxious with Advent so far. Even the ones that are normally tame and I sub to.

They're the hot new sensation so of course clippers will be racing for coomer click baiting.
 

Tuwuturu

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Praying for Koseki that no one acts retarded during her raiding shit.
 
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