General Vtuber Discussion (V1)

[El Rrata]

I used to wonder why I, a grown ass man with a credit card cannot just simply buy shit from amazon jp, until someone there explained to me the subtleties of the japanese banking and credit system.

You can, though? I buy shit every so often from Amazon JP. There is very little content there that is region-locked. Maybe just digital items like Kindle stuff and movies/anime/whatever? You don't need a purchasing service or special credit card, either. You can just use your normal home address and a world-recognizrd card like Visa or MasterCard.

 

[God's Strongest Mozumite]

Lia is playing that Duck Hunt VR game and apparently is only just now realizing it's not Duck Hunt

 

[CalciumAnimal]

Why do I have to super busy on the one day with interesting drama?!?

Tbh this "idol shit will DESTROY VTUBERS" spiel is getting tiring, vtubers are NOT becoming more idol-like by any measure,

Not what's being said. If your super busy then your missing context which was the whole reason this statement blew up in the first place.
the most basic gist of it is Kson thinks management and restrictions will destroy vtubers.

Makes sense Kson joined Vshojo if she truly believes that even though Talent Freedom is backfiring more and more on them

Just to be clear here Kson is wrong either way tard wrangling is essential

 

[NeneHATE]

Not what's being said. If your super busy then your missing context which was the whole reason this statement blew up in the first place.
the most basic gist of it is Kson thinks management and restrictions will destroy vtubers.

Makes sense Kson joined Vshojo if she truly believes that even though Talent Freedom is backfiring more and more on them

Just to be clear here Kson is wrong either way tard wrangling is essential

My point still stands tbh, it all leads back to talent freedom and comes from the same source, corporate vtubing.
I mean regular streamers are all free to do whatever they want right? That doesn't stop them from getting into insane dramafests and getting cancelled all the damn time.

Let her restate it in english though, the shitstorm will be amazing to watch, we eatin' good tonight.

 

[Crush]

The shorts meta has been very good for Rin, absolutely blowing up

https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCpZIbzoEC_3rZglErpQkbDg

good for her

 

[Big PiPi Energy]

Meemaw isn't using slutty Leon mods for her stream. Disappointed in her.

"One of these days when I'm really scared, I'm going to say a fat gamer word and my career will be over."

 

[kestraline]

Hmm.....we've not heard much from Froot lately, I wonder how she's doi---

Okay, it's just a collab, but didn't she get the memo the last time around?

 

[Diya]

It isn't "idol mentality will destroy vtuber culture!". It's "rampant schizo fans imposing more and more restriction is destroying japanese vtuber culture". It's not that hard to understand if you stop thinking she's pulling 4D move in further Vshojo brand of degeneracy and just realize that she talked with her ex-roommate and friends and go on a self-righteous crusade. I myself considered the whole thing could be worded and organized better than just come in ad-hoc swinging with a notepad, but it isn't something grand as an attack on Hololive idol marketing or stuff like that.

 

[El Rrata]

Hmm.....we've not heard much from Froot lately, I wonder how she's doi---

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Okay, it's just a collab, but didn't she get the memo the last time around?

Surely this is when she'll be donating that fat 50k check to the cause, right?

 

[Nabeshin]

Hmm.....we've not heard much from Froot lately, I wonder how she's doi---

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Okay, it's just a collab, but didn't she get the memo the last time around?

Has she donated the 50+K that she said she would?

 

[BlueSharkTV]

That part of the rant may be about Kanata. There was some Minecraft event today:


When the event was announced a week ago, retard unicorns (and/or antis pretending they're mad about males when they'd always be mad) were giving Kanata flak, even though the Holo team is all girls and they have no interaction with the other teams.

I'll leave off other hot takes about what Kson said until someone summarises what she's actually saying, which seems... difficult to do.


If it was /vt/ one of you would have noticed and posted a better summary than I have.

I did back in the homeland, tldr: on this side of the vtuber sphere the ones that are mad aren't unicorns, they are collab beggars that are mad she said she won't collab with holostars, on the jp side the one with the most concerns was herself (she literally made a twitter space saying the collab was checked by management, and she was reassuring her fans she wasn't collabing with dudes).

Spoiler: tweets

One of the bad things about Iketog removing Mel's roommate photos is people won't know just how attractive of a woman she is.

I don't like her she's too skinny and her face scares me.

Spoiler: mel/rica

 

[Crush]

Hmm.....we've not heard much from Froot lately, I wonder how she's doi---

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Okay, it's just a collab, but didn't she get the memo the last time around?

I imagine she’ll be donating

if so, it’s good she changed charities. this one is a legitimate 501c3 charity at least

 

[Paladin]

Pippa is taking submissions and is close to 200K, so we might see some women tears tonight.

 

[RiverBear]

Why do I have to super busy on the one day with interesting drama?!?

Tbh this "idol shit will DESTROY VTUBERS" spiel is getting tiring, vtubers are NOT becoming more idol-like by any measure, if anything a lot of vtubers that began after 2020 are following vshojo's footsteps and becoming borderline whores online. If you wanna talk about the big bucks, Nijisanji makes a lot more money than Hololive, and they are not idols by any measure of the word nor have they ever marketed themselves as such.

The celebrated new corpos are idolEN and EIEN, both of whom are hellbent on pushing "Talent freedom", I do not know where this sentiment comes from. Maybe this is like commies vision of the world, just like killing off all of the rich will magically fix all of our issues maybe killing off all kayfabe and idolshit in vtubing will magically get rid of unicorns and gachis.

Why does anyone care so much about what one person says via vague nods and without saying any names? If this was an actual expose with actual facts and evidence then yeah, but just saying "There's something I don't like and it's literally gonna kill the entire multi-million dollar industry in 5 years" is a bit hyperbolic.

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Also my wife was too cute today, but I wasn't gonna wake up at 5 AM on a workday just to watch a concert, sorry but I'm not that PARASOCIAL.

"Idols are destroying the culture" is the sentiment of every non-Holo viewer/vtuber so that they have something, anything, to say negatively against Hololive.
Niji is singing and dancing? MUH IDOL CULTURE HAS SEEPED THROUGH NIJI
Nazuna refuses to collab with males despite being in VShojo? TOXIC IDOL CULTURE
Pippa singing off-tune and out of sync? IDOL CULTURE REEEEEE

Think about it, how many Vtuber companies right now actively market themselves as the "ANTI-HOLOLIVE" vs companies that follow the Hololive model? I can only think of 1 for the latter which is Prism and it's mostly Rita pushing that she IS an idol.

A part of me really thinks people saw how popular Holo is via their leaked document and collectively went "fuck we can't beat them, so let's bring them down together"

 

[Lurker McSpic]

Hmm.....we've not heard much from Froot lately, I wonder how she's doi---

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Okay, it's just a collab, but didn't she get the memo the last time around?

Trans rights to shoot your 9 year old in the face lmao. You'd think after the zippertits attack they would try to cool it with their shit but nope, lets double down fellas. I'm kinda sad seeing punkalopi in there I thought she wasn't part of the tranny collective.

 

[superduper]

[- YOUR MOST HATED CHUUBA SHOULD BE PERFORMING LIVE AT CYBERSAKURA - APR/29 - 30 -]

Spoiler: ✢YOUR TARGET✢

[- TARGET SIGHTED -]
ELIMINATE
ELIMINATE
ELIMINATE

 

[The Proctor]

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God damnit Lopi is there. Fortunately she's the only person I'd ever willingly have watched. The rest aside from Froot are a grand collection of literal whos I've never heard of. And never will now, because fuck watching anyone who'd willingly collab for the glorious cause of castrating children.

 

[God's Strongest Mozumite]

Hmm.....we've not heard much from Froot lately, I wonder how she's doi---

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Okay, it's just a collab, but didn't she get the memo the last time around?

>the tranny spider is involved
Ear licking ASMR to save the kids?

Well, more like castrate them but you get the idea

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This is what you get for watching knockoff Pippa in the first place

 

[Punished Anime Discusser]

Trans rights to shoot your 9 year old in the face lmao. You'd think after the zippertits attack they would try to cool it with their shit but nope, lets double down fellas. I'm kinda sad seeing punkalopi in there I thought she wasn't part of the tranny collective.

MTFs might be everywhere, but FTMs still setting the top scores. Dilators simply can't compete.

 

[thhrang]

God damnit Lopi is there.