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superduper

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Are we still expecting Invaders 2.0 to come first?

Keep an eye out for new vtuber graduations however obscure. If the timing is within the span of a week of this it could be one of the new gen3.

Also Dr. Lolime is trying to make a menhera cry:
 

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The thing with touching the poop isn't only about personal safety like it's been pointed out, there's also other stuff.
For one, people who go in and argue/fuck with the cows are inserting themselves into the equation, that kind of behavior shouldn't be rewarded because you are:
1. Alerting the cow to the presence of the site and thus endangering the site and/or causing the cow to DFE
2. Bringing attention onto yourself and possibly being doxxed by other users if you act as autistic or EVEN MORE AUSTISTIC than the cow
3. Starting needless arguments with mentally ill or imbecilic people who do not listen to reason
4. Glorifying moral crusades or acting as some sort of internet vigilante larper which is cringe as fuck
5. Being eternally linked with a person-of-interest which will forever stain that identity and will be discovered if you are ever dug into later on
It's just better to not go around fucking with cows, that's zoophile shit dude.
Reminder these rules are legit. Rekeita is currently being sued by a lolcow named Montigraph because laughing about him once on stream with Jim in 2019 caused a cow obsession with him having to literally deal with the court system.
 

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Keep an eye out for new vtuber graduations however obscure. If the timing is within the span of a week of this it could be one of the new gen3.
chances are they would have already graduated in advance.

Or at least that how I figure this works staggering notifications to the public just to hide who is coming better.

anywhere from 3 months to a year ago I suspect anything sooner would not have enough time to get screened/interviewed.

though again announcement staggering would make it pretty easy to throw off.
 

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Reminder these rules are legit. Rekeita is currently being sued by a lolcow named Montigraph because laughing about him once on stream with Jim in 2019 caused a cow obsession with him having to literally deal with the court system.
Rackets has turned into full blown lolcow himself, it's something to behold. Drugs, gay bars and a trip to a little thing called Hedonism 2.... Him and his mid-life crisis car need you to contribute to his legal defense too. :annoyedpippa: What full blown degeneracy does to a man, might have been good PC management blocked the Pippa collab
 

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> join marimari stream
> talks about accidentally killing her sea monkeys and refusing to sleep in her room for 2 weeks because she's worried their spirits will haunt her
> chat gets her to look up munging
> somehow moves to the subject of gay among us sex
> admits to eating uncooked rice
> learns what a alabama hotpocket is
> all of this in less than 3 minutes


I'm starting to regret asking for edgy vtuber recommendations but I can't stop watching. It's like a train wreck you can't look away from.
 

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chances are they would have already graduated in advance.

Or at least that how I figure this works staggering notifications to the public just to hide who is coming better.

anywhere from 3 months to a year ago I suspect anything sooner would not have enough time to get screened/interviewed.

though again announcement staggering would make it pretty easy to throw off.
If the auditions were just finalized there is a chance that at least one person (the last one to be selected) may announce or have announced graduation recently or soon. Not a guarantee but worth it to keep an eye out.
 

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If nolan really was my spawn then i'd probably get my shit checked, that one didn't come out right
Y'all really don't know the nenelove lore, if you did you'd know I'm a spic not a negro, but I respect the rrats
Which one :smugrys:
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It is an absolute wonder to me how the rest of Niji ID haven't picked up and left at this point. Sure some of them stream as an aside an/or aren't in it for the grandiose glory like Bonnivier, Riksa, Amicia, Nagisa, Layla or even Zea, but the ones that have been "favored" like HaNym Macchia, Mika and Siska should most likely know by now where things are headed.
At least for some few, they probably imagined that having a corpo brand and fanbase that is loyal enough is good as is. Especially for those who truly sees vtubing as side-gig than full job. Xia Ekavira seems fine with staying alongside her mostly ID fanbase and while she don't have enough capacity to do covers anymore, she doesn't sound too resentful about it (at least on the surface), and probably so does

I can hazard a guess that there are some that enjoy what they have right now and keep their hopes up (Riksa, Amicia, Nagisa for example), some that have small issue but still enjoying it as is (Derem Kado, if only because her fans want to see her interacting with JPs rather than her native fans, ZEA), manages to get some attention to keep up (Siska, Hana, probably Taka) and those that we don't know for sure how they gonna do right now or no clue whats gonna happen in the future (the rest of NijiIDs)
I joke about the whole unity thing, but it's mainly because of that. ID is super close, close enough to raid each other's house in the middle of the night because someone lost their internet, and I wouldn't be surprised if they stuck around because of each other. They love their fans as well, I'm not going to pretend they don't like their audience, but they've mostly stuck around because no one else felt the need to leave. You can also point to the fact that before the merger, things weren't half bad. They had a management that looked over them and tried to promote them as much as they could, and there were even auditions and a new wave was supposed to come. They don't have that now, and one of them has finally left. If Niji does decide that there's no need to create new waves for ex-ID, or even spare them a glance, then I'm not surprised that they've only now decided to jump ship.
Auditions and new wave, but also ability to do things like collab with local events (2nd wave was debuted on a event I remember seeing), collab with local product (I remember a local phone with NijiexID 3SetBBQ/1Wave livery on it), even their own sets of scripted shows that is similar with what the nijiJP (and EN) are doing if they able. The merge frankly crippled those, leaving all that stuff basically reduced to almost nothing (I still knew that there was one big convention in ID that has NijiID guest starring post-merge, but iirc its just Mika and Layla while HoloID got every HoloIDs there)

If they are willing to jump ship, then they definitely could, but the question is that are they ready to do it now or not.
Jumping ship from NijiID doesn't provide any benefit for the majority of them, the only realistic upgrade in the world of vtubing would be being picked up by Holo (but it'll never happen), so it make sense to drop out only for a real job.
Some of them do have real jobs. Reza works in something medical and I think Taka mentioned going on work trips.
What Soap said is true, some, if not all of ex-ID have their own main things to do. I know that:
- Hana's in college, so does Azura (who is actually doing it abroad in straya) and potentially Xia Ekavira, judging by PL
- Reza PL was mentioned to be an ex-doctor but not sure if he actually still in that field or doing other things
- Siska also mentioning doing jobs when taking a break, but it might be her lore
- Taka, last I check his PL, he was apparently working with one of the ID's uber-style delivery/rental driver business as manager or some kind, so work trips might be true.

The rest is probably keeping it hidden, or probably not working at all (Layla, if the rumour was right, is already married, while Nara is still having to deal with her injured legs EDIT: how the fuck did I typo'd leg as let wth), but either way, some of ex-ID, if they decided to jump ship, can still do fine if they focuses on doing what they're doing aside of vtuber gigs. And if that doesn't work, there are still local vtuber corpos like MAHA5 that could take them in if it was possible.
I think the only thing that could realistically be done is to hire more managers for them (or get them exclusive ones) and allocate them more money. At that point, they may as well just recreate NijiID, which obviously does not make much sense. They could technically throw them in NijiEN, too, I guess, but that also sounds like less-than-ideal solution.
Throwing them to EN is less than ideal, since it could alienate the loyal ID fanbase and is complicated by the fact that some of them, while know english, might not be able to do it conversationally or doing it at a long usual streaming time.

Throwing manager and more resources to them is one way to it though, especially considering that some of ex-ID aren't able to do music covers anymore precisely because of lack of money to do the rent and other cover-related matters. Of course, the matters that need to be focused on is whether ANYCOLOR has the desire to do so or just think "eh, not my issue" to them as a whole.
 
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might have been good PC management blocked the Pippa collab
Disagree. Regardless of if the collab would've either been with Old Rackets or New-Age Hedonism 2 Rackets, it still would've probably made for good content.
 

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The Virtual Asylum Thread Recap
Pages 2150-2200

Other Recap parts can be found [HERE]

Ᵽ PHC: Phase Connect
♨ FVR: FlaVR
▷ HLO: Hololive
☆ HST: Holostars
◷ NIJ: Nijisanji
₪ IDL: Idol
ⓘ INF: Highly informative

post | Ᵽ PHC | Pippa addresses response to her statement, and Flamingo Shondo drama. Also link to vid about statistics being unreliable, psyops, & Internet censorship
post | Flamenco response

post | Shylily reacts to AI presidents

post | Archive - Miori - UNARCHIVED CURSED KARAOKE_ even more memes!

post | About Vshojo hate being over played

post | ◷ NIJ | Old Zaion clip on other Nijis "I have nothing to do with a lot of them, like, in terms of opinion and a lot of other things"

post | On white privilege in Vtuber sphere. Leads to discussion of nationality of Holo and Niji vtubers
post | One of the largest male indies is a black dude

post | ♨ FVR | Sena collab with Nyaru

post | On Finana Zaion relations

post | Ironmouse said she is hoping to create a vtuber award show

post | Ironmouse Skallagrim reaction. Reactception?

post | Question - what is a Vocaloid song performed better by vtubers? With Examples!
PSA There is a special [thread] about covers

post | Instruction on JP on how to handle Twitter cancel crowd
post | There are from 2021
post | Apparently from even earlier times?

post | ◷ NIJ | Aster is setting up a Chaturbate, 100%, fr fr, no cap, on god
post | /vt/ says it is real, so on god, on a stack, bet
post | Nyfco's take on Aster
post | Brave local investigator looks into it, no evidence.

post | Rune Bunnura drama. Small indie is harassed by Twitter crowd for loli shota takes
post | Rune is a fighter
post | She is Pippa fan
post | Yuri follows her now

post | ▷ HLO | Main website was updated
post | Article about the art

post | ◷ NIJ | Yuzuki Roa is still in the legal trench

post | ₪ IDL | Archive - Juna - [KARAOKE] SINGN'T

post | ◷ NIJ | Scarle is evacuating her house
post | Possible explanation

post | Recommendation - Azarashi Alex on Twitch

post | Someone is mad Maxor video is gonna feature Pippa

post | ◷ NIJ | Kuzuha played in offline LOL event

post | Supposed Riifu PL getting spanked by dude pic. Starts PL discussions, pwupster, dudethatswholesome, exoe
post | Dude That's Lewd ASMR links
post | Unicorns for porn actress
post | She was not literally fucking dogs, just pretended to

post | Kson is getting questions for Vshojo JP CEO

post | ☆ HST | ◷ NIJ | Shibuya Hal is announcing the teams for VSaikyoS5. Axel and Selen are together, Axel invited her
post | Details on that
post | Selen talks about how she got there. Axel negotiated for her participation for hour+
post | Question - What is Vsaikyo and why Selen was (initially) banned?

post | Ᵽ PHC | Shiina got some bad news
post | Some discussion and recent Discord screenshots
post | Her sister is fine, bad news was about business

post | ▷ HLO | Kobo Shilyly collab, Overwatch

post | On ASMR e-girls ruining YouTube for everyone

post | ▷ HLO | Matsuri and Astel collab clip, about gachikoi

post | On the long discussion on how IRyS pronounces "come" as "cum"

post | Ᵽ PHC | Question - do you watch Rie and do you like her?

post | ▷ HLO | Ollie implied IDGens2's 3D models are close

post | Ᵽ PHC | Phase Connect is gonna be at AnimeImpulse San Diego

post | ▷ HLO | Moona is in Japan

post | Might be next target for Twitter harassment

post | Question - is Dakooters dead at this point?

post | Question - why people still use twitch for Vtubing? Goes into discussion on Twitch chat culture

post | Tobyn Jacobs shows his collection

post | Debuts of Project F, a vtuber group from Singapore/the Philippine, first impressions. They debuted a while ago

post | Ᵽ PHC | Lia talks about Silent Hill, brings discussion to body parts and circumcision
post | Discussion leads to archives of lore musings

post | Miori celebrates her real Birthday

post | Ᵽ PHC | Airi got into another accident

post | ▷ HLO | Kronii shimeji, desktop buddy

post | Ᵽ PHC | About Phase members who aren't asian. Also gottem

post | AkioAir released their One Year Anniversary Song

post | Finana starts Nier Automata playthrough

Normies and Attention seekers
post | Ᵽ PHC | Yuri on recent normie invasion. Discussion goes places
post | Possible reasons
post | Sound advice
post | the fat man, Sargon of Akkad, Flamenco - on Shondo
post | Jalin (Jadyn? Jalyn?) joins in
post | He got a vtuber model
post | AugieRFC on vtubers and women streams

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post | Kwite drama
post | Included because of his Nux collab
post | And Kwite streams with vtuber avator on Twitch

post | Ᵽ PHC | Walmart wiki features stub for Pippa article

post | Mikeneko is going to debut a new outfit
post | Impressions and screenshots
post | Isn't it a bit too close to Rushia?

post | Filian hosts dating show with Shylily and other vtubers

post | Ᵽ PHC | Archive - Pippa Minecraft - Taking my Coworkers Somewhere They Shouldn't Be
post | Notes and clips of the stream

post | ▷ HLO | Kronii celebrates her Birthday, with some scuff
post | Fans made 198 page year book for her. Also an illustrated calendar
post | Kronii merch, discussion on shipping prices. Apparently Hololive later deleted responses of people angried by prices

post | ☆ HST | Gavis Bettel fucking dies

post | ◷ NIJ | Ren Zotto tells people to leave Zaion alone
post | Riguruma, linked with Niji, takes more shots

post | ▷ HLO | Archive - Ayunda Risu - 【#Singing】 will stop [ K ] if you don't help me reach 800K (this is not a threat)

post | ▷ HLO | Archive - IRyS - 『UNARCHIVED Karaoke』Singing songs with the word White in it for White Day!!

post | Question - other EN vtubers with sense of humor similar to Pippa?

post | Ᵽ PHC | Lofti Pixels interacts with Pippa. Also dalgiwooyoo account activity
post | Info on dalgiwooyoo activity

post | Soft-horror themed vtubers
post | List of them. Seems to be friendly with each other. And more on dalgiwooyoo activity

post | Nyanners tweet with photos of IRL friends

post | ▷ HLO | ☆ HST | Mix lineup for Iori's new song, RAD DOGS

post | rpr and Naggz host VRoyale's 1st event, a Mario Cart 8 tourney

post | Tech - Roboco and Luna did online karaoke last year. About karaoke with 2 people in different places

post | ▷ HLO | Keekihime and her friend took photos in Tokyo
post | That friend is @danidaifuku

post | Calli's new MV, Sorry I'm so Cute

post | Stonetoss Comics on Trans vs Vtubers

post | Maria Paradisia is back. She were supposed to be in the cancelled Gen 4 of Tsunderia

post | PSA about deleted Tweets and archiving things

post | Archive - Kilia - 【UNARCHIVED KARAOKE】 Disney songs! Also Tech - archive addons
post | Alt Archive

post | ▷ HLO | Moona is pondering cosmos and alien life

post | Ᵽ PHC | Tenma is collabing with Albino. Info on who Albino is a bit later on (and in previous recap too)

post | Previous Amberglow Dragon Xiulan released a cover with some people from Amberglow

post | Info on Twitch channel nuking

post | New YouTube guidelines on profanity

post | Vtuber Cringe stream on Henry

post | Question - Why Vshojo bad?

post | Ᵽ PHC | Tech - search input for phase connect on Twitter without every member tweet

post | ♨ FVR | Sena collabs with Gospel, talking about biblically accurate angels

post | Ᵽ PHC | Exoprimal did a shout-out to Lumi

post | Ᵽ PHC | Old Lia recordings. I mean, young Lia recordings?

post | ◷ NIJ | ▷ HLO | Nina Kiara collab

post | Kirsche numbers and graphs, Pippa collab incline. Also on Vshojo Nux drama from IT sector standpoint

post | Chikafuji Lisa got bad news about family friend's health

post | ☆ HST | Axel's DDLC thumbnail was changed twice by manager

post | List of song parodies with vtubers

post | ◷ NIJ | Luca streamed with a handcam with his shadow visible

post | ▷ HLO | List of links to holo*27 songs


Nijisanji Finance and Indonesia branch
post | ◷ NIJ | Zea's membership stream was shared somewhere, she is privating it
post | Possibly talking about her future graduation
post | ⓘ INF | Anycolor has released their Q3 Financial documents. Discussion on Niji ID getting stuck with no support
post | Numbers, noticable drop in viewers for Vox
post | Hana info from membership
post | More numbers, general decline across EN
post | Niji expert's take on ID

***

post | ▷ HLO | Archive - Axel Syrios - 【Unarchived Karaoke】 Maybe we'll sing some sad songs today

post | Zoey posts model art, also Archive channel for her karaoke

post | NexStage Project is losing 2 members after making a debut few days ago

post | Ᵽ PHC | Handmade Pippa

post | ▷ HLO | Question - Why is HoloJP numbers so high?

post | Henemimi/Hen of Mimi/PAWG chicken's Birthday and two year Anniversary

post | Kenji video on Zaion
post | About Kenji, Enna Kyo drama
post | Nolan touches the poop, long talk about it

post | ▷ HLO | /vt/ leak or lies about English First Concert "Connect the World". Discussion on EN3

post | Recommendation - Kora Kurage
post | Info on PL

post | Ᵽ PHC | Shiina's vague talk about bad news

post | ◷ NIJ | Enna talking about liking small boys
post | Hex shows hand with dildo asset, possibly just a bit
post | Context to Enna and kids
post | ▷ HLO | Matsuri being lolicon

post | Question - How does online ticket work?

post | Question about Amano Serafi from V&U

post | About Throne, LinkedIn and Shiina opsec talk

post | Ᵽ PHC | Sakana announces that decisions for Gen3 have been made

post | ♨ FVR | Nayvell Milkdrop is coming back



Feel free to DM me about mistakes and missing info!
 
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chances are they would have already graduated in advance.

Or at least that how I figure this works staggering notifications to the public just to hide who is coming better.

anywhere from 3 months to a year ago I suspect anything sooner would not have enough time to get screened/interviewed.

though again announcement staggering would make it pretty easy to throw off.
I would hope they'd at least have the blessing to continue past life activities until the official debut, given otherwise in some circumstances they could be not bringing in income for however long it takes Fishfag to get them ready to go.

I'd imagine a big part of whether they bother to graduate their old persona well ahead of time would come down to how much they actually care about opsec on a personal level; it's clear some chuubas actively work to hide who they are while others just do the bare minimum to cover their tracks to satisfy the NDA. I'd argue the latter is smarter, if only to have a backup option available.

Disagree. Regardless of if the collab would've either been with Old Rackets or New-Age Hedonism 2 Rackets, it still would've probably made for good content.
Possibly, but current-day Rackets fans spilling over to Pippa's chat would result in even more people "ironically" asking to see her armpits and sniff her feet.
 

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Why is Uruka in chat while she is streaming? Shouldn't she be, ya know streaming?
How can you stream without watching Vtubers? :shiinastare:
chances are they would have already graduated in advance.
Maybe, but for PC gen 2 they knew by late December who was in but Shirara and Shura still streamed into February. I don't know the other's PLs though.
 

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Possibly, but current-day Rackets fans spilling over to Pippa's chat would result in even more people "ironically" asking to see her armpits and sniff her feet.
Okay, that's a very good point. I don't want to see Pippa's chat become as bad as Rackets's Locals page.
 

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And here we have another political person shouting out Pippa, stating she is similar to Nick Fluentes. Bio states they are some sort of nationalist.

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Keep an eye out for new vtuber graduations however obscure. If the timing is within the span of a week of this it could be one of the new gen3.
Here's a couple to get you started (also don't forget idol EN gen 2 auditions closed just over a month ago as well).


And out of curiosity does anyone know if Aozora Kurumi, the Air Asia vtuber ever reincarnated anywhere? She was friends with Remi if I remember correctly.
I've given up on Invaders 2.0 coming any time soon, after Tsunderia's implosion fishman saw people pestering if the talents would join PC. Based on that I'd wager they'll come in after a few months when it's just a bad memory. Or they're just calling it all Gen 3 and 'invaders' will be treated as a subcatagory, I dunno.
Lumi said the next wave of Invaders were coming before Gen 3 and I've heard both Lumi and Tenma talk on stream about hanging out with them on the company discord over the last couple of weeks so they might not be too far away.
Just don't expect any Tsunderia members yet, I don't know the exact source but apparently as part of the agreement that the talents made to keep their models they promised to not resign to another agency for 6 months (how a now defunct entity can even uphold this I don't know). If it is true I wouldn't be surprised if they did another Invader wave later in the year if any of them wanted to join.
 

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Okay, that's a very good point. I don't want to see Pippa's chat become as bad as Rackets's Locals page.
I am so done.

 
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