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General Vtuber Discussion (V1)

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Saturnus

haha it's unou
Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
I was expecting most of 3setBBQ to mass graduate, but not Siska. That one took me by surprise. Still July is a ways to go though.
This just seals the deal that Hana won't be much longer in the company. Also without Amicia, "cloverMcOver" are literally two people left (Riksa and Rai)
ZEA has been hinting at graduation. Sucks because I liked her the most. I will probably follow her roommate if she continues activity there. Taka, Amicia, and Siska are a left-field announcement (for me) because they seemed to be doing alright. Really fuckin sucks right now. :depressedtako:
Ive always heard the niji id was poorly ran, I wonder how much that has to do with this.
Niji ID really only got this bad after it merged into the main branch and was forced into the basement cubicle. While the original ID management honestly kind of squandered the western appeal they had early on due to Hana by focusing their efforts entirely on ID I never thought that warranted a merge into whatever is happening now.
 

Alchemyth

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Joined:  Sep 17, 2022
I'm kinda shocked Hana's sticking around, she and Zea were super-close, at least way back when I still followed them.
 

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Here's IRyS' Unarchived Karaoke Stream
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Mega Link - IRyS -【Unarchived Karaoke】Singing Nephilim Time!
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Paladin

Resident Sad Girl Enjoyer
Joined:  Jan 5, 2023
I'm kinda shocked Hana's sticking around, she and Zea were super-close, at least way back when I still followed them.
Shes probably is not, to be honest. The only thing I can think of that's keeping here there is the fear of restarting. Either way here death pool stats just increased greatly.
 

Punished Anime Discusser

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Uruka is getting banned from drinking streams after this.

"I can't stop it if your pp gets hard."
 
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FoxBearGranma

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Joined:  Nov 4, 2022
Good luck to the people out there actually watching blue bear with speakers. :SelenHAHAhere:
 

niggaphil

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Joined:  Oct 23, 2022
Open Uruka Stream:

"Are you gonna fap to my voice?" - Uruka

:smugselen:

EDIT: Uruka doesnt like hentai, she will watch real thing when she is into mood
:smugselen:
 
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Bumbling Fat Moron

Not As Spooky as a Still Image Ghost
Joined:  Sep 10, 2022

Waving Chinchilla in less than 15 minutes.
 

Titanosaurus

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Joined:  Sep 12, 2022
Look's like Rie and Rin's collab win be Ring Fit Adventure (IIRC someone gifted it to her on her alt throne)
Edit: Removing tweet because it's all retarded and shows stuff other then her schedual.
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I think those are just 2 different streams listed? There's 2 different PST times there and Rin's body would probably fall apart if she did Ring Fit for longer than 30 minutes.
You're right! :shiinastare:
Don't bust your hip again :faunacry:
Edit: Hope we gets Hags VRS Zoomers for the Uno Collab :SelenHAHAhere:
 
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Azehara

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Idk why you people are making such a fuss over some 3rd world nijis, be fucking honest now, nobody here gives a shit about nijiIDs or KRs with the exception of maybe Hana, this is the same kind of concernfagging as when people pretended to care about holostars or HoloID back in 2020, you don't, you just wanna comment on drama, which is fine. Just don't pretend it gets you in "da feels" because it doesn't.
While I dont actively watch them I do recognize some of them (Taka being the main one).

Look's like Rie and Rin's collab win be Ring Fit Adventure (IIRC someone gifted it to her on her alt throne)

Don't bust your hip again :faunacry:

You can collab with that? Isnt that 1 player?
 

God's Strongest Dragoon

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Joined:  Mar 20, 2023
"I can't help it if your peepee gets hard"
Oh boy, the blue bear has gone yabai.

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She's back from the bathroom and has zero balance control
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Annnnd she's talking about how she doesn't watch hentai and just watches normal porn if she's in the mood.
 
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Brosnan Pierce Brosnan

God's Strongest Smartass
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Joined:  Apr 4, 2023
I retract my earlier comments about Uruka being chill
 

Punished Anime Discusser

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Look's like Rie and Rin's collab win be Ring Fit Adventure (IIRC someone gifted it to her on her alt throne)

Don't bust your hip again :faunacry:

It's just gonna be an entire stream of Rie doing exaggerated moans, and Rin screaming like she's being mauled by a bear.
 

John Vtuber👁️

Sentient Eyeball, Primarch of Hag Pride Worldwide
Certified Manwhore
Joined:  Oct 24, 2022
Everyone send your thoughts and prayers to Muumi for the aftercare of Uruka
 

Todd's Strongest Howard

Do not trust the sticker farmer.
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They sent the branch to the basement behind the busted toilet no one uses, the usual japanese corporate move of we can't fire you cause it looks bad so we want you to quit. If you are ok with coasting with the fans you have you stick around but I guess they chose to try their luck. Hana might've tried her luck with her weird im a dude channel and well she saw shit was dire for her and decided to stick around. Mika may jump ship after this too she hasn't tried to kneecap her growth and her fans seem to be willing to follow her wherever she ends up.

I'm really going to miss Mika's Nijimodel if she does leave.

Idk why you people are making such a fuss over some 3rd world nijis, be fucking honest now, nobody here gives a shit about nijiIDs or KRs with the exception of maybe Hana, this is the same kind of concernfagging as when people pretended to care about holostars or HoloID back in 2020, you don't, you just wanna comment on drama, which is fine. Just don't pretend it gets you in "da feels" because it doesn't.

I may not have watched Taka much but I was aware of him. You don't have to be a major fan of someone to be a bit upset to see them leaving a group. I'd be increasingly sad to see Bonnivier, Nara, Hyona, Reza and Mika move on, all being ones I watch infrequently if I don't have something else taking my time when they're live and if they're playing something I'm interested in.
 

Hff201

Pippa Fan, Failed Normalfriend
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Joined:  Sep 13, 2022
Man... I wonder if the shotgun approach of Niji is still a viable strategy since they are having graduations left and right.
In regards to the shotgun approach of Niji, I wonder if they care more about total ccv than ccv per liver. For example, as they add more members to NijiEN, the average ccv of each liver will decrease, but if you combine all the little ccv of each liver, the sum will still be more than before.
It must be an attempt at casting a wide net by sending out as many streamers as possible and letting them all generate whatever income they can on their own to sustain the overall business, as opposed to other corpos who specifically curate a smaller group of streamers and promote them to be higher earners individually.

This isn't a new strategy; time for a history lesson. Nowadays, a YouTuber looking to become a YouTube Partner (having monetisation enabled on their channel), whether they are working independently or joining a Multi-Channel Network (think what Machinima used to be, the Curse Network, Screenwave etc.), has to meet two requirements before being considered: 1000 subscribers, and either 4000 hours of watch time in the last year or 10,000,000 Shorts views in the last 90 days.

This hasn't always been the case; for a period of several years it was entirely possible for anyone with a freshly-made channel to apply for partnership, and nine out of ten times they'd be accepted automatically and able to run ads on their videos right away. The catch is that for a tiny channel this would hardly be lucrative - AdSense doesn't pay out the revenue to a bank account until $100 of earnings have been accrued, so if they're only earning a few dollars a month it would take forever until they saw that money, if at all.

That is, until certain individuals and companies saw an opportunity to use these channels to their advantage. If a YouTuber is partnered via an MCN it is the MCN who handles payments rather than AdSense meaning they can set much lower payout thresholds, and so new MCNs started appearing, operating with a strategy of signing on literally any small channels they could bait onboard with a not-great revenue share (usually around 60:40 in the YouTuber's favour, when the industry standard at the time was about 80:20), on the agreement that they could withdraw their earnings every month without a threshold.

This strategy worked for those businesses right up until YouTube introduced the new partnership requirements, likely by design to shut down these particular MCNs. For them, it didn't matter if most of their channels were run by literal children with no business sense barely breaking a dollar a month in earnings; if they've signed on tens of thousands of channels like that and are taking 40% of each of their revenue it still adds up as decent passive income for the network - and if some of those channels left for better deals elsewhere or got banned for uploading pirated Naruto episodes, it didn't matter, because there were plenty more where they came from.

I don't think Nijisanji is shady in this sense (from my understanding they at least exclusively hire adults who can read a contract for themselves, rather than 13-year-olds who have their parents who think it's some video game thing sign it for them), but I think there are similarities in the business models. There are some perks to joining the company like easy access to collaborations with the more successful Niji streamers, and if you're smart you can work that to your advantage, but it is not in the company's interest to nurture your streaming career in the same way it is for Hololive, or even most small corpos. Your numbers make up a much smaller percentage of their overall revenue, and if you leave, then oh well, there's another six people debuting next month to replace you.
 

Saturnus

haha it's unou
Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
I'm kinda shocked Hana's sticking around, she and Zea were super-close, at least way back when I still followed them.
Hana still has the 3D debut eventually coming down the pipeline (Before you do it, I know, 🌈🌈🌈 but,) according to that membership stream a few months ago that I vaguely mentioned here earlier in the year. She was upset about a "thing" being denied but assured her fans that 3D is still coming there's just roadblocks. She also has most of her following on her corpo account. But Nym more or less has all her current and longtime notable chatters and donators following her iirc.

I'll make mention here too because we don't have Rezza and I know a total of 1 person in Indonesia that follows Niji ex-ID. Apparently rumors have been brewing for a few months now that a large majority of them are going to jump ship since Miyu's graduation. The ones staying right now are more or less protesting/rioting. See:

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Punished Anime Discusser

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>tries to headbang
>almost snaps her own neck
I hope you're enjoying the final Uruka stream, bros.
 

niggaphil

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Joined:  Oct 23, 2022
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Annnnd she's talking about how she doesn't watch hentai and just watches normal porn if she's in the mood.
She only said real thing, but it doesn't mean it is normal porn
:chaos:
 

Shuba

MPP
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Joined:  Oct 22, 2022
Look's like Rie and Rin's collab win be Ring Fit Adventure (IIRC someone gifted it to her on her alt throne)
Edit: Removing tweet because it's all retarded and shows stuff other then her schedual.
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Don't bust your hip again :faunacry:
Edit: Hope we gets Hags VRS Zoomers for the Uno Collab :SelenHAHAhere:
You can collab with that? Isnt that 1 player?
It's just gonna be an entire stream of Rie doing exaggerated moans, and Rin screaming like she's being mauled by a bear.
I think those are just 2 different streams listed? There's 2 different PST times there and Rin's body would probably fall apart if she did Ring Fit for longer than 30 minutes.
 
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