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You don't understand how much I appreciate this! I would probs never have known cause I don't go on 4chan.

It's anazing that they're twins irl, cause no wonder that had good chemistry of sisters during streams. Also, their stories of them living together such as crazy cats and Aki's Dirty Bottom Boy plants are funnier with being real!!!

 

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Hololive confirmed, gives base salary:

The info you provided is pretty neat, but this clip does not confirm that hololive gives a base salary. In it she talked about how cover takes a protection fee and how Susan takes a cut, so her salary referred to the money she earned from YouTube ,not a salary given by cover.
Just think about it logically the stream where she talked about it was on the first of April 2020. She claimed that she had just gotten her "first salary"- "FIRST salary". She debuted on the 28 December 2019 . So if cover provided a base salary, why did they not pay her for 2 months? It could be that they are just an evil black company, but if they are why would they provide a base salary at all? Ockham suggest that they simply do not give one.
 

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Ewiwa going live with Xenoblade 3. One of the spiciest chapters along with the next one. Watching her absolutely lose it whenever something happens is a real treat.

 

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The info you provided is pretty neat, but this clip does not confirm that hololive gives a base salary. In it she talked about how cover takes a protection fee and how Susan takes a cut, so her salary referred to the money she earned from YouTube ,not a salary given by cover.
Just think about it logically the stream where she talked about it was on the first of April 2020. She claimed that she had just gotten her "first salary"- "FIRST salary". She debuted on the 28 December 2019 . So if cover provided a base salary, why did they not pay her for 2 months? It could be that they are just an evil black company, but if they are why would they provide a base salary at all? Ockham suggest that they simply do not give one.
Worth noting that all vtubers I've seen talk about income do so in layman's terms. What they call salary is usually commission or other types of contract fees. It can't be put under wages in accounting terms, for example. That doesn't mean Cover or any other company doesn't give a base flat fee or stipend, just that it would by no means be considered a salary even if they did.

Maybe Crumchyroll-hime gets paid like an employee. But if I recall even she gets a cut of her donos, so possibly not.
 

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The info you provided is pretty neat, but this clip does not confirm that hololive gives a base salary. In it she talked about how cover takes a protection fee and how Susan takes a cut, so her salary referred to the money she earned from YouTube ,not a salary given by cover.
Just think about it logically the stream where she talked about it was on the first of April 2020. She claimed that she had just gotten her "first salary"- "FIRST salary". She debuted on the 28 December 2019 . So if cover provided a base salary, why did they not pay her for 2 months? It could be that they are just an evil black company, but if they are why would they provide a base salary at all? Ockham suggest that they simply do not give one.
Checked a Lamy clip, and she uses 'Salary' interchangeable with 'Superchat Income', too. Or at least the clipper does. My nihongo isn't particularly jouzo.

Now I'm kind of wondering where the notion that Cover pays a base salary comes from. Would be amusing if it was just nonsense repeated by the audience for two or three years with no basis to speak of.
 

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We can always hope they resume their streaming activities. From their reaction to graduating, I'm guessing the chances are pretty good.
Yeah they seemed like they'dve kept going as long as they could had the project not ended, so chances are good they'll keep going in some fashion. Question is, will it be as VTubers or regular streamers...?
 

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Why's Sakana such a dumb goddamn darkfriend? I can't tell if this is just bants or the dumb fucker really didn't follow up on kson interacting with him. Luckily, kson seems familiar enough with Pippa to tell her gtfo of her stream.
Regarding the outburst, the gals are all smart enough to know it's Sakana holding them down. And he really has got to be holding them down, Gen 2 are experienced enough that they knew the PC audience going in and Shiina's gun-toting ass probably appreciates an audience who isn't likely to demand to know her pronouns. Rie seemed fairly basic at debut and soon shifted in a more menhera direction. They know their audience better than the guy playing lol all day.
Kson interacted with Pippa on stream? Got a clip?
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Yeah they seemed like they'dve kept going as long as they could had the project not ended, so chances are good they'll keep going in some fashion. Question is, will it be as VTubers or regular streamers...?
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What I'm gathering from this is that Tenma should be manager and tard wrangler.

Checked a Lamy clip, and she uses 'Salary' interchangeable with 'Superchat Income', too. Or at least the clipper does. My nihongo isn't particularly jouzo.

Now I'm kind of wondering where the notion that Cover pays a base salary comes from. Would be amusing if it was just nonsense repeated by the audience for two or three years with no basis to speak of.
Wouldn't be the first thing that was the case for lol. Which I am guilty of it in this case.
If what you're saying with the terminology is right (especially with varying qualities of translation available and differences in how the term is used between languages) then it would arguably make sense that a lot of people got the wrong idea about it. Albeit unfortunate then since it would be incorrect information being taken as truth.

Out of curiosity I tried skimming around a bit too and caught these, but I can't vouch for what's verbally spoken, nor if the translations are any good. So absolutely take note of that.




The word salary shows up pretty consistently, so now I'm inclined to believe that's just how they referred to being paid at all including through superchats, etc.
 

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Now I'm kind of wondering where the notion that Cover pays a base salary comes from. Would be amusing if it was just nonsense repeated by the audience for two or three years with no basis to speak of.
One place to look might be early Tempus streams, I know Vesper said some things about his first paycheck, or waiting for his first paycheck to do something, but I forget whether that was pre, near, or post YouTube monetization. I was always late watching their vods, so I don’t know if he actually said anything useful to the conversation at hand or in which streams he might have said something. All I know for sure is that he said something about a paycheck at some point in time.

One thing that seems like a given though, is that they probably worked behind the scenes for months pre-debut, and didn’t get ‘paychecks’ for that time period. It doesn’t completely rule out regular paychecks from Cover since they weren’t streaming yet (for all we know they could get an hourly wage for streaming), but it could be a clue.

TLDR; I dunno
 

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I know these two and this is actually pretty good news. Ally and Sally have been working with Mangagamer for around a decade, so while it sucks the vtubers are graduating, the ladies behind them aren't gonna be shoved out into the cold.

On the speculation side of things though, if they're still busy with other Mangagamer junk like possibly voicing the new game, we might unfortunately not see them re-incarnate under a different vtuber project.

@Scoots Oh and here's kson and Pippa:
 
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I know these two and this is actually pretty good news. Ally and Sally have been working with Mangagamer for around a decade, so while it sucks the vtubers are graduating, the ladies behind them aren't gonna be shoved out into the cold.

On the speculation side of things though, if they're still busy with other Mangagamer junk like possibly voicing the new game, we might unfortunately not see them re-incarnate under a different vtuber project.
Oh shit they been doing stuff with mangagamer for over a decade? Can you let us know what you know about them? Cause only just learned about their dance gaming twitch a few hours ago!
 

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Well, Tenma is streaming with Artemis. Not sure why you would want to watch it, but here's the link if you're a masochist. Don't say any stupid shit in chat though.
 

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Oh shit they been doing stuff with mangagamer for over a decade? Can you let us know what you know about them? Cause only just learned about their dance gaming twitch a few hours ago!
Oh yeah, they're actual twins from Canada and did the gaijin idol thing in Japan. They actually had an interest in eroge and got together with Mangagamer, writing blogs, doing interviews and some work on games. Here's them talking about doing testing:
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Lia is interviewing one off Genshin voice actors:
 

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If they already worked for and continue to work for MangaGamer, it makes even less sense to make them stop unless they are getting canned, imo.
 

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lul, tenma with the tranny shark. rip tenma.

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