oh god from the thumbnail i was afraid he was inviting the cow tranny into this
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oh god from the thumbnail i was afraid he was inviting the cow tranny into this
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>attempts to show that 2% split isn't actually bad
>accidentally proves that going Holo makes you earn more overall even at 2% split
>learns in the comments that 2% isn't even the revenue split for Holo, so they could even be earning even more
Every day, Nijifans still taking Ls
I remember, you don't deserve to be named for your heinous action!
Nijibros and Nijisis from /vt/ have more credibility than these 'Vtuber Journalist' Nijifans..... go figure
@TinyKusa there's no real way to actually sort out the Nijisanji or Hololive numbers. Also, with the Hololive numbers, we don't actually know where they expense the Member's %. Is it taken out of gross profit or is it counted as part of Production Cost?
My honest guess is Hololive probably has a 25-50% split (depending on agreement and product type) on profit with the Members on merch. Nijisanji very likely has a 5-10% cut for each member on the profit margin on the product. It would explain the variable %s that got mentioned (as margin is variable) and why the Voice Packs are what get pushed.
There's also issues with Pre vs Post Tax. And I have never looked into how Japan would tax the Member's splits. (Coco was probably more serious about starting a Religion than people realize, haha.)
As for sponsorships, for the size that some of the Holomembers pull, assume 10k minimum but someone like Pekora or Aqua you probably need to think 50k or more. Depending on the nature of the sponsorship, could be even higher. Sponsor CPMs run around 20USD as a rough figure. The current trend of "put character X in the game" should be thought in terms of 6 figures in USD.
It's partially the business-type in me, but I think too many Holomembers have missed on a lot of money by not getting a lot more direct game sponsorships. Mind you, I realize I'm talking about a company where all of the front-facing employees are incredible introverts, but, still, you have to work the angles. Rather than asking their manager to get permissions, they should be asking their manager to get them the number of the marketing director of the company.
I'm well aware that'd never happen. I've seen dozens of esports teams dissolve because the pro players couldn't be bothered to stream for 3 hours a week repping sponsors. If anyone understands what the "Once a year RTZ Stream" means, also understand he probably tossed away 5+ million USD by not at least streaming once a month.
I have a lot of respect for Linus of LTT/LMG. It's stuff like this is why. I just realized the money that a Gen could make by running a case vinyl design contest and roping in sponsors for ports and have a combination offcollab/PC building party. Mind you, it'd take at least one member that is reasonably comfortable building machines, but it's stuff like that which wraps together the community, sponsors and fun.
@braindoko Glizzys are a term from the Northeast USA for Hotdogs. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/glizzy matters as well.
My honest guess is Hololive probably has a 25-50% split (depending on agreement and product type) on profit with the Members on merch. Nijisanji very likely has a 5-10% cut for each member on the profit margin on the product. It would explain the variable %s that got mentioned (as margin is variable) and why the Voice Packs are what get pushed.
There's also issues with Pre vs Post Tax. And I have never looked into how Japan would tax the Member's splits. (Coco was probably more serious about starting a Religion than people realize, haha.)
As for sponsorships, for the size that some of the Holomembers pull, assume 10k minimum but someone like Pekora or Aqua you probably need to think 50k or more. Depending on the nature of the sponsorship, could be even higher. Sponsor CPMs run around 20USD as a rough figure. The current trend of "put character X in the game" should be thought in terms of 6 figures in USD.
It's partially the business-type in me, but I think too many Holomembers have missed on a lot of money by not getting a lot more direct game sponsorships. Mind you, I realize I'm talking about a company where all of the front-facing employees are incredible introverts, but, still, you have to work the angles. Rather than asking their manager to get permissions, they should be asking their manager to get them the number of the marketing director of the company.
I'm well aware that'd never happen. I've seen dozens of esports teams dissolve because the pro players couldn't be bothered to stream for 3 hours a week repping sponsors. If anyone understands what the "Once a year RTZ Stream" means, also understand he probably tossed away 5+ million USD by not at least streaming once a month.
I have a lot of respect for Linus of LTT/LMG. It's stuff like this is why. I just realized the money that a Gen could make by running a case vinyl design contest and roping in sponsors for ports and have a combination offcollab/PC building party. Mind you, it'd take at least one member that is reasonably comfortable building machines, but it's stuff like that which wraps together the community, sponsors and fun.
@braindoko Glizzys are a term from the Northeast USA for Hotdogs. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/glizzy matters as well.
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You will not bait me into becoming a needless anti. I'm not going to start a war over this. I am a peaceful man who can work out my issues in a civilized manner.Maybe it's time for you to be the ANTI you always pretended to be, they took your auxiliary Oshi from you! WHAT WILL YOU TAKE FROM THEM?
Lumi tries to get away from talking about rape and brings up the Indian festival Holi. A subtle connection there with India being known as one of the rape capitals of the world. 
Yesterday it was Brazilians are goats (real). I hope for yabs
Btw that was her recovery after this:
Yesterday it was Brazilians are goats (real). I hope for yabs
Btw that was her recovery after this:
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Lmao, there was a recent video of this random british woman smiling as a bunch of indians groped her after she got a flower collar, while her husband watched, i think they had to go on camera to tell people to not be racist or some shitLumi tries to get away from talking about rape and brings up the Indian festival Holi. A subtle connection there with India being known as one of the rape capitals of the world.
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edit: couldnt find the video of the british couple but apparently it happend again just this year, but this time to a JPN woman
Outrage in India after video shows woman tourist groped during festival
For at least 24 seconds, a rowdy mob of men and boys groped, shoved and humiliated a petite Japanese tourist on a street in New Delhi, on a day meant to mark Holi – the Hindu festival of colours and love. A video of the incident, now viral on Twitter, is sparking outrage...
tnp.straitstimes.com
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Fluffy squirrel is streaming something that isn't Genshin.
E: Nevermind now she's talking about Genshin.
E: Nevermind now she's talking about Genshin.
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/pcg/s gonna have to update the listLumi tries to get away from talking about rape and brings up the Indian festival Holi. A subtle connection there with India being known as one of the rape capitals of the world.
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Most of the Niji folks I watch seem to not really worry about money, except Layla...she's ID though. I guess less money just means less projects, less projects means less exposure, and less exposure means less money. Vicious cycle.
Yo what's an easy way to download clips from YouTube. On Twitch it's omega easy, just make the clip from the vod then -> inspect page -> open .mp4 and boom you have your clip -> throw in editor to render out in 720p to save space.
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lumi has 4 song collabs coming up eventuallyTM and will be doing 5~ covers eventually. (i actually like her singing)
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She is doing math again and it is painful.
Edit: The computer at the bank does the math for her
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Henyas first collab is starting.
"I have no idea how VShojo make money"
Neither do we, Henyamee, neither do we.
we do
a fuckton of investor money, some 11 Million USD was the last recorded sum
VShojo - Funding, Financials, Valuation & Investors
VShojo is a talent-first VTuber company working for the growth and success of its members.
Vshojo works with Ironmouse and other popular Vtubers. It just secured $11 million in funding. - Tubefilter
VShojo, which works with some of the most popular Vtubers in the world (including Twitch star Ironmouse) raised $11 million in funding.
www.tubefilter.com
Yeah, but how are the investors getting that 11 million back? Unless Kson just has the best deal ever and the other girls have been getting screwed this whole time, are people really buying enough merch to make up for it?we do
a fuckton of investor money, some 11 Million USD was the last recorded sum
VShojo - Funding, Financials, Valuation & Investors
VShojo is a talent-first VTuber company working for the growth and success of its members.www.crunchbase.com
Vshojo works with Ironmouse and other popular Vtubers. It just secured $11 million in funding. - Tubefilter
VShojo, which works with some of the most popular Vtubers in the world (including Twitch star Ironmouse) raised $11 million in funding.
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