General Vtuber Discussion (V1)

[Faceless Waifu]

its his birthday

 

[Aka Split]

A-chan, Ina, Bae, and IRyS collab in 14 hours with news about the EN concert.

Featuring: SmirkRyS

It is IRyS' turn to play Q. Let's see if she fares any better than the rat. I am guessing she will. Also, finally streaming at a time I can stomach!

Wait a sec...These official hololive channel things are generally pre-recorded, so it's not an issue in that sense. But is IRyS going to stream over it, or is it actually going to be a really short stream? That could be why she has her stream scheduled so early, but I can't imagine her only streaming 2 hours.
Edit: Oh, and Bae will almost certainly be streaming over it.

 

[Fucking YTs]

Honestly. I'm looking at you, @Fucking YTs (pon) and (recording)

Huh, I wonder how I could've have possibly fucked that one up:

On a more serious note, initially, I named the recording version "ponRyS.png." However, unlike every other software or website I've used, it overwrites the last thing named, so when I named it "ponRYS.png" instead of adding a suffix such as a number, it was overwritten. There are no fail safes here.

As a result, I had to go back and add "ponRyS.png" back to its original place and then rename the recording one to "ponRyS-recording.png." So, from now on, I will randomly use different file names (such as Wjsdkfjsdkfjs.png) since the filename does not really matter for a smile.

Edit: Also, I have zero file access, so I can't clean up any sort of file mistakes.

 

[lakyus]

Amiya Aranha will be having a colouring stream today



Lineart on Amiya's Gdrive

 

[Superduper Samurai]

Going to stir some shit for the sake of stirring shit and feed the rrat some cheese.

Spoiler: feeding rrats

It does seem a bit weird to have them debut a generation/branch where one person is the definitive leader. Like it's not even "this person is suppose to be the leader", it's literally "his title is leader". Lines up with Omega being egotistical enough to point out that they were the first staff of EN. Additionally it's weird that Altare is carrying Omega's gun in his model. Then there was the disappearance of AO-chan, which would also be another weird coincidence that AO = Altare Omega. It would fit if they were trying to make some "super sekret hint", which is what some midwit like Altare would try to put out, thinking he's some giga-brain. Just like how when they debuted Tempus, they showed a guild table with extra seats as a hint that Vanguard is on the way. It's also weird that Kiara fought for a collab with Pomu forever but Altare seemed to be given that Knox collab by management with zero effort.

Ok, that's enough schizoposting from me for today.

Thats fair if the retarded hints do seem to give the idea, but i personally cant get the business strat of letting your talent be secretly a manager when you arent a small indie company with no manpower

Knox collab to me seems like them giving the guinea pig branch (e.g, Homostar EN) a bone for a previously not done (outside of ID, their other guinea pig branch) event to see the fan reception

And with the leader bit id agree its wierd to have it so spelt out but Myth and Council's group debuts had seemingly designated leaders or atleast the ones introducing everyone in Ame and Bae (with the whole Police Lineup and Council Lore autism, Bae was also the narrator for their hyped PV)

 

[Takodachi]

There is a non-zero percent chance that their child was conceived while they were fucking on stream.

hot

 

[Fish bad]

That still went on through as Vesper's edited vids that were all uploaded/made after his suspension though, last vid of that was barely 3 months ago in Jan

As fun as the OmegaAltare rrat is from a meme perspective, to an extent it does seem extremely far fetched to believe it as it is at face value ngl

Holo is a large company who probably doesnt need to double dip and use managers or Producers (?) as talent, all examples of that have always been with failing indies like Cyberlive and Tsunderia

To tack on, they all just did the april fools collab and they all seemingly cooperated in sharing their ideas or jokes, so i doubt friction is so ass they wouldnt be able to pull as much effort as they did for that

Edit: shortly after those videos, D&D had their permissions/OGL kerfuffle too iirc, some the clauses included charging for licenses for influencers if i remember correctly or other types of restrictions

The OmegaAltare rrat is indeed a bridge too far, but here's a very similar explanation from what we already know.
Altare probably sided with staff because he's a rat, thinking he's the "leader" of the group and it's his duty to "keep the peace". He shit on Vesper for something he obviously felt strongly about.
Vesper, not happy to be wrangled by some retard for something he's right about just told him to fuck off. Resentment probably grew on both sides and now they avoid eachother.
Though things honestly might be worse than what I'm writing, they're straight up refusing to be a part of a collab the other is on so Vesper might have "gone too far" on Altare, and the little bitch that he is went running to management.

 

[Trap Supremacy]

I never joined that discord but does anything interesting actually happen in it? Or is it just like the normal circle jerk discord?

Depends what you consider circlejerk. It was mostly just an extension of the kiwi thread, at least at first. It eventually became its own kind of small group of friends who'd use the server to discuss live vtubers and drama. Only really sus thing was the porn channels - of which were only two (from what I saw were really only used by a few people, I personally always kept them muted). The other channels people claimed were for "porn" were just for sharing SFW fanart.

As for interesting things, there were small attempts at a proto-vtuber lolcow "threads" (channels) including ones that kept up on Futakuchi Mana, Zentraya, and Poka. Yuni joined and never said anything. For the most part otherwise it was just a small group who liked vtubers and discussed them in a pseudo-kiwi-esque way, not too different from here, really. They ended up mostly avoiding Kiwifarms after a point because of gripes with Null saying a few stupid things. Why that was the straw that broke the camel's back and led to Tako leaking it will never make sense to me though.

Nowadays the people from the server have basically abandoned it, it's currently a ghost town. Think they all made a new server or something.

 

[Brosnan Pierce Brosnan]

The OmegaAltare rrat is indeed a bridge too far, but here's a very similar explanation from what we already know.
Altare probably sided with staff because he's a rat, thinking he's the "leader" of the group and it's his duty to "keep the peace". He shit on Vesper for something he obviously felt strongly about.
Vesper, not happy to be wrangled by some retard for something he's right about just told him to fuck off. Resentment probably grew on both sides and now they avoid eachother.
Though things honestly might be worse than what I'm writing, they're straight up refusing to be a part of a collab the other is on so Vesper might have "gone too far" on Altare, and the little bitch that he is went running to management.

I was only catching bits and pieces of the Left 4 Dead collab, but from what I saw Vesper was fairly quiet and I don't remember Altare talking much at all. Anyone catch the full collab? Am I wrong? I just remember Magni freaking out while Flayon sounded drunk.

Again might be looking too much into it because of the rrat, but say it isn't true Vesper sort of acts evasive and suspicious which just causes people to read even more into their interactions.

 

[BioBreak]

its his birthday

Holo tribalfags:

 

[El Rrata]

Going to stir some shit for the sake of stirring shit and feed the rrat some cheese.

Spoiler: feeding rrats

It does seem a bit weird to have them debut a generation/branch where one person is the definitive leader. Like it's not even "this person is suppose to be the leader", it's literally "his title is leader". Lines up with Omega being egotistical enough to point out that they were the first staff of EN. Additionally it's weird that Altare is carrying Omega's gun in his model. Then there was the disappearance of AO-chan, which would also be another weird coincidence that AO = Altare Omega. It would fit if they were trying to make some "super sekret hint", which is what some midwit like Altare would try to put out, thinking he's some giga-brain. Just like how when they debuted Tempus, they showed a guild table with extra seats as a hint that Vanguard is on the way. It's also weird that Kiara fought for a collab with Pomu forever but Altare seemed to be given that Knox collab by management with zero effort.

Ok, that's enough schizoposting from me for today.

I'm gonna quell this right now. Cover managers have to live in Japan, even for ID and EN. They ONLY hire people in Japan as talent managers. It is part of their requirements to be able to commute to the offices.

Spoiler: EN Talent Manager Posting on LinkedIn

Altare is definitely not in Japan. AO-chan was almost assuredly Sana, and explains her disappearance as Ina's mod. Talents do not seem to have any restrictions on who they mod, or are at least allowed non-Cover employees as mods, Pomu is one in Kiara's chat for example. It is fun to entertain the ideas, but it is incredibly unlikely.

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

Thats fair if the retarded hints do seem to give the idea, but i personally cant get the business strat of letting your talent be secretly a manager when you arent a small indie company with no manpower

It could just be a regional thing. HoloJP has no qualms about streaming the troon trigger game while HoloEN was clearly avoiding that like it was the plague. Could just be the JP not knowing about the drama but HoloID clearly knew about the drama and they gave no fucks. Despite HoloEN being the branch that blew up massively, I wouldn't be surprised if they are really understaffed in the EN region. Some of the Tempus boys appear to be operating under JP staff. I agree that it would be retarded to try to push a manager into being a talent but I've seen plenty of EN branches of international companies go full retard before. Not to mention A-chan exists as she's basically a pseudo-talent at this point.

Knox collab to me seems like them giving the guinea pig branch (e.g, Homostar EN) a bone for a previously not done (outside of ID, their other guinea pig branch) event to see the fan reception

I can see that. It just seems weird to me that Homostars EN gets preferential treatment on a lot of shit (this is coming from someone that likes those fags). While I understand that Homostars has always been YAGOO's pet project, it's odd that Homostars EN also got their initial collab ban removed instantly, while every other gen has to wait a while to establish themselves. I think the real big clue would be how long it takes for Tempus HQ to get their 3D. If they get 3D pretty fast, I'd say it shows some distinct favoritism.

And with the leader bit id agree its wierd to have it so spelt out but Myth and Council's group debuts had seemingly designated leaders or atleast the ones introducing everyone in Ame and Bae (with the whole Police Lineup and Council Lore autism)

Yeah, what I was referring to was that Bae was designated as the leader of Council in lore but that was just lore. Her title was "Chaos" and was mentioned in lore as the leader of Council. Meanwhile Altare was presented as "Hero" and "Leader". I don't recall Ame ever being the leader of Myth though. It was just a general "she's the normal one investigating all these Mythical creatures", so she was doing the voice work for their debut videos.

 

[RestlessRain]

Idk if it's the same one, but one of the person's doing this kind of of AI generated art for pippa and panko shared their mega folder with all their creations and the name of the files shows that they literally use 12-years-old as a prompt. Fucking sick

We need more people like Gary Plauche.

 

[Punished Anime Discusser]

Rin ragequit the Wii golf game after exploding into unprompted karaoke to release the pent up suffering.

Sasuga, prince.

Nevermind, I think she kicked her computer and the stream died for a minute.

 

[Faceless Waifu]

Holo tribalfags:

I don't really mind the tribalfags from holo, am just sharing it because the blasé way he announced his birthday compared to say, most livers celebrating their pre-designated birthdays.

is funni to me

 

[Shuba]

Rin spotted superchatting herself while raging on stream

 

[BioBreak]

I don't really mind the tribalfags from holo, am just sharing it because the blasé way he announced his birthday compared to say, most livers celebrating their pre-designated birthdays.

is funni to me

lol, nothing against ya. Just seemed like the perfect excuse to use that Nene "Don't Care!" smiley.

 

[Nenélove]

The OmegaAltare rrat is indeed a bridge too far, but here's a very similar explanation from what we already know.
Altare probably sided with staff because he's a rat, thinking he's the "leader" of the group and it's his duty to "keep the peace". He shit on Vesper for something he obviously felt strongly about.
Vesper, not happy to be wrangled by some retard for something he's right about just told him to fuck off. Resentment probably grew on both sides and now they avoid eachother.
Though things honestly might be worse than what I'm writing, they're straight up refusing to be a part of a collab the other is on so Vesper might have "gone too far" on Altare, and the little bitch that he is went running to management.

This whole /vt/ rrat is the same sort of reaching as the "Pekora and Miko hate eachother" thing.

 

[Lurker McSpic]

That still went on through as Vesper's edited vids that were all uploaded/made after his suspension though, last vid of that was barely 3 months ago in Jan

As fun as the OmegaAltare rrat is from a meme perspective, to an extent it does seem extremely far fetched to believe it as it is at face value ngl

Holo is a large company who probably doesnt need to double dip and use managers or Producers (?) as talent, all examples of that have always been with failing indies like Cyberlive and Tsunderia

To tack on, they all just did the april fools collab and they all seemingly cooperated in sharing their ideas or jokes, so i doubt friction is so ass they wouldnt be able to pull as much effort as they did for that

Edit: shortly after those videos, D&D had their permissions/OGL kerfuffle too iirc, some the clauses included charging for licenses for influencers if i remember correctly or other types of restrictions

The session was prerecorded from what I remember and probably was recorded before vesper threaten to nuke japan a third time. Holo is a large operation, holostars EN I doubt they started with more than a skeleton crew, if femboy was already working for them behind the scenes and made the audition I do see them putting him in charge to a degree for the time being until they hire more people which it seems they did. Also dudes tend to be able to still cooperate even if they dislike each other, they don't flip their shit hard unless there's a girl involved in the beef.
At the end of the day will never know unless vesper really says fuck it and goes full schizo. I hope he doesn't but if he's really forcing his manager to babysit him in his marathon streams as a professional fuck you the man is a chad.

 

[Superduper Samurai]

I think the real big clue would be how long it takes for Tempus HQ to get their 3D. If they get 3D pretty fast, I'd say it shows some distinct favoritism.

Would it be though?, unless they debut their 3d before ID3 then we're already reaching the same-ish timeframe anyways to the previous non council/fes 3d debuts (HoloX, 7 months), and uproar itself only took 8 months from debut to 3d, Tempus is going to reach that milestone soon ish, if they save their debuts for next fes then they would debut together

Unless they shoot themselves in the foot and let the so called OmegAltare favoritism give the homos 3d first while letting ID3 (featuring the sub giant that is Kobo) play 2nd fiddle then imho that wouldnt be possible, it would also be harder logistics wise considering only Axel is JP, Vesper has anxiety autism, and Magni has a bad back