General Vtuber Discussion (V1)

[The Peanut Gallery]

With her subathon over it's time for Mari to play Glover

 

[Ｍｕｒｒａｙしないで]

I'd expect them to have a planned-out schedule. Surely they're not just going to dump a couple dozen people on a Discord call together? Spread them out, give them stuff to do, give them a chance to show off individually and find a new audience. We'll see what shape it takes in the coming days, I guess.

Shouldn't it be Fall Folx?

 

[kestraline]

Chinchilla is streaming.

 

[MornLurker]

God the few pages back were so gay to read, some of you guys really need to take some pills before typing your online spergery

You're too focused on the preventing yabs aspect of management. Creative freedom does actually mean creative freedom sometimes and not just "I want to say retard shit and be a slut on stream". Many of the most memorable moments in vtuber history come from talent pushing back against management to get something done. Ame having to fight and work behind managements back to get her 3D shit in, all the crazy shit Inchou does without permission or Marine getting her concert after bitching to management about it for months are examples of that. We don't see how many ideas are shot down by management because they don't want to relinquish control, take responsibility for a risk or set a precedent.

Sometimes management is actually wrong. Sometimes the talents ideas really are retarded/illegal. There has to be some way to push back though, or shit will go stagnant.

Spoiler: late sperging

There's truth in this "corpo is limiting their talents" bit as it has been proven over time especially when they had an image to hold. Like I'm sure a good amount of people still remember that time period when Astel just went on a full apologetic-whilst-sobbing stream because some of his projects were shut down by management thus rendering him from giving his 100% to his viewers and he had to do a whole mental gymnastic to come up with an alternative, or how they decided to canned old man arurandeisu model even though current fans has no problem with it whatsoever.
Being bounded by corpo will give you both good and bad things at once. As the talent itself, they might find themselves stuck in a sticky situation like this which is why fans should be supporting their favorites for what they wanted to be not because the corpo told them to be A or B. Of course a fair exception should be enforced to ensure that no one could easily do a fuck-ups which is why the cry about tarento freedomu often falls short the moment they stopped thinking about putting certain limits.

I'm also not saying kson is devoid of criticism but she has some fair points to be talked about, especially when people are starting to equate VTubing as idol work when the core activity of VTubing itself is just anime people trying to stream

My opinion is basically the same as this:

Most of you guys don't fucking listen to the stream, nor even read the entire translation before jumping to the worst possible interpretation of specific bits that suit your prior image like a /vt/ resident. She's talking about the whole unicorn shitting on PPT for accidentally being near penishavers, and that if people don't speak out against this kind of behavior, the industry will turn to shit.

And to add, the whole corpo stuff can be summarize as "Corpo may have rules, but fan should be on their oshi side instead of pushing for more restriction because it suit their imaginary of the person." Imagine for example, fan pushing back against Marine's Treasure box because she said she went against management. Fan demand talent that doesn't collab with male to stay that way, and get real pissed when that code was broken - Suisei-Roberu for example. It's shit like that that ruin the fun and talent's agency on their work.

"If it go on this way, vtuber will be gone. Your oshi will be gone." because it won't be fun and interesting anymore, Those that got burnout will graduate. Those that remain will be a husk. She isn't said that the current rule is bad, but unicorn schizo fans pushing for more and more restriction of all kind on talents is worrying if not stopped and shamed into the dreg they belong.

 

[Azehara]

Got a Community Guidelines strike for "Nudity" and the video got nuked to shit. (all because of cleavage in the first 5 seconds)
Got bonked a 2nd time (limited monetization and 18+) because the 2nd girl also has cleavage (at around 25 seconds).

Edited it a 3rd time. Finally, this should be it. Honestly, when it comes to content, this is super tame considering some of the shit I have seen on youtube. This is so gay.

 

[Hff201]

We have a song about superduper Rie's mother.


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[God's Strongest Dragoon]

Erina's at the Capra Demon

Oh yes, the "personal space" Demon. This should be good.

 

[Crush]

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On one hand, I agree

on the other hand; this was completely unnecessary. Why did she feel the need to respond? No hate to her, it just feels weirdly out of no where

 

[Azehara]

On one hand, I agree

on the other hand; this was completely unnecessary. Why did she feel the need to respond? No hate to her, it just feels weirdly out of no where

1. because she believes it
2. because if she doesn't reply the Twitter Freaks will eat her up

She blew up really fast and I have a feeling she has a ton of normies in her audience that eat that shit up. Her not replying will only cause a massive shitstorm and while she might only lose 2k subs (which in the grand scheme of things is nothing) why even bother?

 

[Hff201]

On one hand, I agree

on the other hand; this was completely unnecessary. Why did she feel the need to respond? No hate to her, it just feels weirdly out of no where

1. because she believes it
2. because if she doesn't reply the Twitter Freaks will eat her up

She blew up really fast and I have a feeling she has a ton of normies in her audience that eat that shit up. Her not replying will only cause a massive shitstorm and while she might only lose 2k subs (which in the grand scheme of things is nothing) why even bother?

(That's an old clip from a few months ago, it's not a direct response to this charity stream controversy)

 

[niggaphil]

How many Nijisanji EN gonna pump out this year? 2~3 groups again? Or should I say How many Zaion-like gonna appeared?

 

[Crush]

(That's an old clip from a few months ago, it's not a direct response to this charity stream controversy)

I was sure of that already, the points still stands regardless though

after all by Dec, she had over 300k subs

https://socialblade.com/youtube/c/punkalopi/monthly

 

[BlueSharkTV]

Lui and Choco will feed Okayu in over 2 hours.

 

[Crush]

How many Nijisanji EN gonna pump out this year? 2~3 groups again? Or should I say How many Zaion-like gonna appeared?

I love how even the replies and quote tweets are filled with people telling Anycolor to cool it with these waves and auditions

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

All this talk about creativity.

What was your latest encounter with a creative stream idea?

I got only two off the top of my head

• Rinmama guessing vtuber names
• Kiara sock puppets

Honorable mention for "completely out there" goes to Kiara's ironing Handcamp zatsu

For video content I really like watames girigiri and have a nice day series

Kiara is preparing herself for when she hits 30. It's practice for wife/mom experience streams.

Surely this is when she'll be donating that fat 50k check to the cause, right?

Unironically, this would be the ideal opportunity.

A part of me really wonders why Kiara just doesn't quit Holo and go to Niji if she likes them so much

She's trying to poach Pomu.

I wouldn't mind her poaching Nina, too.

• Other than that, I love Polka's Legend of Polka series, even though I gotta catch up on it. Insane that she's been keeping it up for 2 years. Can also never forget that she was the first Holo to skydive.
• This one is older but I'll always love Botan using her birthday to make different kinds of ramen for her genmates.
• Pekora's New Years stream where she "took over the world" by turning a bunch of Holos into her and having a bunch of others do their best peko impression.
• Marine's Showa-inspired live keeping the video quality grainy and the aspect ratio at 4:3. I barely knew a lot of those songs but I still felt a nice sense of nostalgia throughout the whole thing.
• Gura's 3D debut. The whole TV channel theme was pretty cool and the commercials were hilarious.

All of which are corporate.

Of course, creativity, paths seldom travelled exist in the indy sphere, too. That outdoor travelling JP vtuber. Rocket launch vtuber. Voice acting vtuber.

Projects that need corporate resources (concerts) aside, creativity does exist in indy- and corporate spheres alike. It just requires the vtuber in question to be passionate about something that's off the beaten path. If you don't have that, you can still be good, you don't have to innovate to be entertaining, but without that passion, without that niche interest, forget about trying to innovate.

Never thought I see a vtuber mention DS9

Winn Adami

The Prophets have never spoken to me; never offered me guidance, never trusted me with the fruits of their wisdom, and now I am supposed to step down as kai in order to be blessed by them.Winn Adami to Dukat Winn Adami was an ambitious Bajoran religious leader and the first kai of Bajor elected...

memory-alpha.fandom.com

Okay, but how does she feel about Dukat and Garak?

Is her Hamster called 'Lemmiwinks' by any chances? I cannot imagine what would happen to that poor hamster.....

I personally think its name is Ebichu.

Lord knows, Ebichu is practically a documentary on Canan's life...

Was this already posted? Looks like a decently high-quality RPG maker fan-game is going to be released soon-ish (likely in the upcoming month, according to another tweet):

>RPG Maker
>it isn't porn

I didn't know this was possible.

Most streamers when they become huge end up doing react. Fans love to suggest shit and see their reaction. Its also no brain ezpz way to make a stream, you dont have to plan shit just have people donate their clips and just laugh or talk shit.

Honestly, with some streamers, I don't mind react stuff. E.g. Cheese 05. He worked his ass off in Mario 64 for years and years. If he feels like sitting back, relaxing and doing some easy react content using his name recognition for bucks, he has my blessing. No different from post-career sponsorships in sports.

 

[DanchousLoyalHamu]

Is her Hamster called 'Lemmiwinks' by any chances? I cannot imagine what would happen to that poor hamster.....

Lmao. Actually though I wonder….do you guys think South Park will ever touch on Vtubers?

@DanchousLoyalHamu keeps winning.

its true I really do keep winning.

Speaking of Danchou.

Man her Lui impression is actually pretty good.

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

Lmao. Actually though I wonder….do you guys think South Park will ever touch on Vtubers?

Not until it reaches the mainstream and actually gets discussed on a news station. In regards to current events, Trey and Matt are kinda boomers and don't actively search for shit to make fun of. Only way I see them touching on vtubers is if they want to touch on streamers and then they accidentally discover vtubers during their research and throw that in as a joke. I could see them making a joke about Cartmen pretending to be a female vtuber to fleece people for money.

 

[kushami tasukaru]

Yeah, he bought and played the US version for like 5 hours. He also didn't hide the puzzles or do any of the other bizzare Capcomisms. So he got the bonk. He said he would play the JP version off stream and catch up to where he was before continuing.

Is the puzzle thing true? I saw Patra's playthrough for a short time on the weekend and she didn't hide one puzzle.

Holy BASED, Marine!

I noticed the SC sender's name is Dazai Osamu.

Do read "No Longer Human", a great book but be warned it's extremely depressing.

Today is Live Union's third anniversary and their Vsingers are going to showcase their abilities.

Spoiler: Streams in order

Starting with Enma Ruri at 8PM JST

HACHI second, 8.30PM JST

Continuing with Setono Toto at 9PM JST

Closed by Minase Nagi at 9.30PM JST

Have a visit, they are good.

Spoiler: more VSaikyo clips

Speaking of idol, Hinano, Kou, and Mondo talked about it just for laughs


Astel's first meeting with teammate Ars Almal. This team looks fun


Noah, Deron, Mimitaya, and their "coaches"

 

[superduper]

We have a song about superduper Rie's mother.


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I love how it opens up with her looking at VShojo tier whore shit while acting like a VShojo tier whore.

 

[Limkin]

yay, another Niji wave, I am sure it will have people I will watch a lot and not drop in a month or two or watch one stream a month after debut just like every wave after the first /s
btw no one cares but the last merch has scrunchies. they are moving up in "cheap to produce merch for maximum profit", at least some variety this time... if the quality is high enough where you can tie your hair without the elastic inside being destroyed after a couple of times it's already at least usable daily and not just going to sit on a shelf. but the cheapo ones usually get so loose so quickly they end up collecting dust