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General Thread v5 Guys: MariMari_EN Edition

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I'm glad posting surface-level "based" takes is all she needs to distract people from her history in the Production Kawaii mean-girls clique. I sure am a big fan of the actual pushback against woke shit in video games being watered down by people jumping on it as an easy grift.
Her Dragon Age: Veilguard Review was surprisingly solid and brought up many issues with the game beyond just the woke bullshit.

I've been burned by so many vtubers that appeared nice at first that going into Nene knowing what she is honestly kind of a relief.
 

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No it got jannied because we need threads for everything.
Containment threads for large events were the norm before the thread splits, and 25 pages or more of a single event warrants a thread I'd say.
 

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Containment threads for large events were the norm before the thread splits, and 25 pages or more of a single event warrants a thread I'd say.
It also helps with easy archival and reference later on.
 

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Containment threads for large events were the norm before the thread splits, and 25 pages or more of a single event warrants a thread I'd say.

We also had all other conversations going on in the General thread, so containments were created for any one single thing that was drowning out the other 10 constant deluges. To use the site as suggested now, pretty much all posts should be relegated to one of the subthreads, meaning General gets turned into Store Brand Banter thread. Should just rename the thread "Looping Containment V" because that's what General tends to be otherwise.
 

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Speaking of Twitch, Pillow has a question on indies and platforms (+ lemon woman's thoughts as someone who's done both)


My thoughts have always been that getting started as an indie is easier on Twitch, and you can rise to higher heights there, but YouTube indies can make it through gaming the algorithm like shorts.

But come to think of it, Pillow does have a point. It's hard to think of a pure EN YT indie that grew to really high noombers, discounting ex-corpos and other special cases. Pillow herself may be one of the few exceptions, but from this tweet she herself feels that's she's not there yet.
 

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Speaking of Twitch, Pillow has a question on indies and platforms (+ lemon woman's thoughts as someone who's done both)


My thoughts have always been that getting started as an indie is easier on Twitch, and you can rise to higher heights there, but YouTube indies can make it through gaming the algorithm like shorts.

But come to think of it, Pillow does have a point. It's hard to think of a pure EN YT indie that grew to really high noombers, discounting ex-corpos and other special cases. Pillow herself may be one of the few exceptions, but from this tweet she herself feels that's she's not there yet.

There is a more immediate payoff, financially and numbers, by going the twitch route where as shorts don't pay and you're having to drag in an audience with a low attention span. Twitch is much easier to navigate because it's almost purely a streaming platform not videos, shorts, streams, music, etc platform.
 

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Speaking of Twitch, Pillow has a question on indies and platforms (+ lemon woman's thoughts as someone who's done both)


My thoughts have always been that getting started as an indie is easier on Twitch, and you can rise to higher heights there, but YouTube indies can make it through gaming the algorithm like shorts.

But come to think of it, Pillow does have a point. It's hard to think of a pure EN YT indie that grew to really high noombers, discounting ex-corpos and other special cases. Pillow herself may be one of the few exceptions, but from this tweet she herself feels that's she's not there yet.

It is really all about marketting for streamers, regardless of vtuber or not.
The twitch sphere has a lot of big indies, if you get into their circle then you can grow big. See the current Sinder clique drama, almost every big twitch vtuber indies are in the same exact clique. With a very few outliers who are in different cliques.
Same as the youtube sphere, it has a lot of big corpo, an indie without the ability to collab with those big corpos/siphon off their viewers, can hardly ever grow big on their own.

If you want to be big/the very best indie, yes twitch is the way to go, you might have to suck off a guy or 2 on twitch con, but anything for that noombers.

If Pillow switches to twitch and still does the absolutely same thing she currently is doing on Youtube, interacting with the same people as before, she won't be able to grow on twitch. Also looking at her channel, she mainly do ASMR content, I don't think that do well on twitch as a platform. If she really wish to grow on twitch, she needs to stream games on twitch and interact with other twitch indies

Twitch growth is MUCH faster. Even with youtube pushing 1views recently, not multistreaming to twitch is shooting yourself in the foot. Shorts are waste of time, they don't pay jack shit and subs you get from it are 99.9% dead souls. Shorts only worth it when you're already big enough to regularly sell sponsor spots there.
it might be true in general. If you ignore the hundred of thousands of small streamers who never sees any growth on both twitch and youtube.

I just personally dont think multi streaming works for Pillow after skimming through her contents. There isn't a demand for asmr on twitch and drawing streams are on the opposite end of being oversaturated. She did game the youtube system and get to where she currently is because youtube loves ASMR videos (and hate them at the same time). Those don't translate to live viewers. But it is the path she had taken.

If she wants to make to the jump to twitch she will have to overhaul her entire content. Just press the multistream button won't work.
 
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Speaking of Twitch, Pillow has a question on indies and platforms (+ lemon woman's thoughts as someone who's done both)


My thoughts have always been that getting started as an indie is easier on Twitch, and you can rise to higher heights there, but YouTube indies can make it through gaming the algorithm like shorts.

But come to think of it, Pillow does have a point. It's hard to think of a pure EN YT indie that grew to really high noombers, discounting ex-corpos and other special cases. Pillow herself may be one of the few exceptions, but from this tweet she herself feels that's she's not there yet.

Twitch growth is MUCH faster. Even with youtube pushing 1views recently, not multistreaming to twitch is shooting yourself in the foot. Shorts are waste of time, they don't pay jack shit and subs you get from it are 99.9% dead souls. Shorts only worth it when you're already big enough to regularly sell sponsor spots there.
 

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RK Music's NEUN is singing.


Someone who has Shion as oshi is VSpo's Kaminari Qpi.


VSpo's Asumi Sena went to Okinawa recently.

Took some nice pictures as well.

Looks like someone found who the new 774inc talent Kasukane Shino was previously, Nextopia's Nikoniko Pona. She graduated late last year and her archives were scrubbed part of a mass graduation from the company.
 

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Looks like someone found who the new 774inc talent Kasukane Shino was previously, Nextopia's Nikoniko Pona. She graduated late last year and her archives were scrubbed part of a mass graduation from the company.


Oh man thanks for the heads up. I'm glad she's still a VTuber (in a relatively known corpo to boot) and didn't leave the scene completely considering she already had 2 personas.

:sanasmile:
 

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Went on a spree of posting slurs in picture form that was reported by half a dozen people during the Innis Crucifixion arc, so I banned him for a few days as a warning not to do that again.
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RK Music's NEUN is singing.


Someone who has Shion as oshi is VSpo's Kaminari Qpi.


VSpo's Asumi Sena went to Okinawa recently.

Took some nice pictures as well.

Looks like someone found who the new 774inc talent Kasukane Shino was previously, Nextopia's Nikoniko Pona. She graduated late last year and her archives were scrubbed part of a mass graduation from the company.


Oh man thanks for the heads up. I'm glad she's still a VTuber (in a relatively known corpo to boot) and didn't leave the scene completely considering she already had 2 personas.

:sanasmile:

Huh, I was subbed to her. I subbed to a bunch of JP music Vtubers about 2 years go for background music while doing stuff. I'd forgotten she graduated.
 

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Yay the thread is saved from the slutubers backstabalooza! Have a clip of Remi singing happy birthday to Pippa's daughter Nayana!
 

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