Niji avoids it by having in house riggers. According to the Cover statement, it was mostly L2D and 3D. Tbh, thats a pretty big L for hololive. I mean, the government has to make a new law to protect artists from stuff like that. Cover was probably not the only reason but it sure was a big one. I can already hear nijisisters feasting after hearing these news lol. Hololive L collection thread when??
I actually agree with Seth, a Hololive L collection/fuck up collections is guaranteed, they do it all the time, just hand-waved because "nothing burger". Hololive is great at learning from their mistake. Doesn't mean the mistake never happened.
I personally think even if it's nothing burger, it's worth the archiving/cataloguing. This is all
history.
why do you need a government specifically making rules for this when it's already an established rule in the community?
It's actually not an established rule within the community. Noone knows what the fuck they are doing, including cover, the artists, the riggers, the talents. Cover also a more positive ones and there are companies out there who do way worse, including not honoring their payment. I bet Wactor skipped out a pay or two. It's not just vtubing and hololive, it's an issue for literally everything that has to do with "freelancers".
I'd rather hear from the actual contractors themselves than hear the conclusions of a soulless government bureaucracy that's incentivized to find anything that could potentially be a violation. And the fact that "revision" isn't defined is a huge oversight. I'm sure they'll end up defining it thanks to the power of soulless bureaucracy.
There shouldn't be any reason for them to be late with paying their contractors though.
Polka's mama actually decided to
speak up, she talked a fuck lot and hasn't heard of an invention called twitlonger so I'll just be summarizing here instead of posting every tweet. And she's kinda just rambling at this point and still hasn't finished.
- I'm not here to defend Cover, what they did was bad and they broke the law. But now they are
doing their diligence regarding this matter.
Other companies are even worse at this.
- Everyone in the live2D industry is doing it, not just COVER corp, this all comes from a lack of experience. The artists are new to the industry, the companies are new to the industry, the vtubers are new to the industry.
- Vtuber works are complex. Most artists don't know how to adequately provides for riggers, such as how character poses for live2D, each rigger also have their different preference on how layers are separated. It's up to the company/client to coordinate between the rigger and artist and provide a guideline for how to separate layers (and other technical aspects), but most companies don't do that. Revisions are inevitable without proper framework/communications.
- Sometimes a vtuber can request revisions after all the coloring are done. But they don't speak directly to artists but through managers, and the more managers in between the more delays there will be.
- I hope "revisions for reasons other than mistakes or faults on the part of the service provider will incur additional costs" will become a common sense for the industry, but it isn't yet.
- Artists will also just do things for free because they are afraid to speak up/getting disliked by the orgs. Personaly I have had all my issues resolved because everyone I talked to were very understanding. But if I were to not say anything, the issues would have remained unsolved. It takes courage to speak up.
- It's hard to properly define "revisions" or how to pay for them when drafting a contract, there are artists who doesn't mind fixing minor things for free and there are those who won't move without getting paid, it's ambiguous on purpose. For me, time budget is one of my main deciding factors. It's also actually disadvantaged for the artists if contracts are drafted too thoroughly, since artists do skip deadlines all the time (and can't shoulder late payment fee unlike orgs). "Just draft a good contract" isn't that easy.
- To other artists, particular first timers: it's okay to get paid for your work, don't be afraid to fight for what's rightfully yours.
Bit annoyed that nijisisters who doxxed and harassed Zaion are checking here. They are proven malicious before. I'll ignore it as much as I can and hope it stays as a slapfight.
