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White Stone

A literal white stone
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 12, 2022
Technicality means nothing when there has been a repeated and proven pattern. She says she'll be back, do a handful of streams and then disappear for who knows how long.
I am very willing to bet that most of her fans wouldn't mind as long she doesn't disappear from the Internet forever.
 

VTuberBobDole

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Joined:  Sep 30, 2022
She does seem to be dropping multiple obvious hints that she'll be back... Not going to hold my breath for any sort of regular streaming but even if she just comes back and shitposts and streams very irregularly, I'll be there.


I don't think what remains of her fanbase will care. If they stayed around for the last 2,5 years, they'll stay for as long as possible even she streams once a year. After all people still watch Namie / Sana and she is not even a content creator by trade.

I am very willing to bet that most of her fans wouldn't mind as long she doesn't disappear from the Internet forever.

Yep that's me.
 

Sithis

Dread Father
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Joined:  Sep 16, 2022
I still feel bad for Mumei, as it's clear circumstances simply forced her to make a decision.
I feel more bad for Mumei because she had to make such an emotional and heavy decision and then what was supposed to be a time for her to say goodbye gets overshadowed by Gura graduating. I know it's a running meme that Gura would stream to siphon viewers away from the others but holy shit that's just wild to do it in graduation too.

It occurred to me while she was talking about snot earlier that 3/4 of SNOT are now gone or going.
 

Not Important

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Joined:  Oct 8, 2023
Also 1 year+ for a song with a video? WTF is going with Holo sometimes?
 

PleaseCheckYourReceipts

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Joined:  May 6, 2023
Also 1 year+ for a song with a video? WTF is going with Holo sometimes?

Eh, this isn't too surprising for Media Production Pipelines. I know everyone thinks these things are slow in Cover, but not really? Cover probably could use an outside analyst to inspect their processes a bit, as they clearly have spots that cost time, but there's simply a lot of linearly dependent tasks in a lot of complex workflows. An artist breaking their wrist randomly can eat up months. Stuff like that.
 

Negzana

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Joined:  Apr 15, 2023
I feel more bad for Mumei because she had to make such an emotional and heavy decision and then what was supposed to be a time for her to say goodbye gets overshadowed by Gura graduating. I know it's a running meme that Gura would stream to siphon viewers away from the others but holy shit that's just wild to do it in graduation too.

It occurred to me while she was talking about snot earlier that 3/4 of SNOT are now gone or going.
SNOT was basically HoloEN for me. Of all the HoloEN girls I watched it was them. I really wish I could get into Advent and Justice more but there's just a sunk cost fallacy to EN1-2 that I would rather just not care about EN anymore aside for Kronii and Biboo.
 

thirteenorphans

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Joined:  Sep 16, 2022
Also 1 year+ for a song with a video? WTF is going with Holo sometimes?
That would depend on where things are getting stuck. Production issues are in the hands of the song writer, composer, mixer and MV maker. Paperwork issues are on Hololive(mostly).
 

Not Important

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Joined:  Oct 8, 2023
Eh, this isn't too surprising for Media Production Pipelines. I know everyone thinks these things are slow in Cover, but not really? Cover probably could use an outside analyst to inspect their processes a bit, as they clearly have spots that cost time, but there's simply a lot of linearly dependent tasks in a lot of complex workflows. An artist breaking their wrist randomly can eat up months. Stuff like that.
I know it is not that simple, but others manage to produce 2-3 songs in that time or whole EPs and here's just one song?
Well, anyway, I hope it is worth it.
 

MostlyALurker777

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Joined:  Feb 22, 2023

ValkyrieAce

in a toxic relationship with IRyS
Joined:  Jan 28, 2023
I can't believe she made a song all about how she feels about Advent.
 

Hotdogs Aplenty

King Shiori Poster & Watcher
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
Maybe Gura is just hard to work with when it comes to these things
 

roktofferson

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Joined:  Apr 5, 2023
I am very willing to bet that most of her fans wouldn't mind as long she doesn't disappear from the Internet forever.
Yeah. There's several youtubers I follow who used to post content regularly, but for years have irregularly posted a few videos a year, still the same quality as they used to, sometimes longer than normal, but their output just dropped. For some it's life-starting a family, IRL work, etc. Some just lost the drive for the output level, they used to have. I adjusted and just enjoy the surprise when their videos pop up and then go back to what I watch regularly. It's how I've treated Gura for a long time, how i plan to treat dooby's stream bursts, and how I'll treat whatever Gura does if it's stream, music, or video related. I worry about mumei vanishing forever because she was always enjoyably weird and it'd suck not to see stuff from her even just occasionally.
 

Horo7618

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Joined:  Sep 12, 2022
Anyway, it seems like a pretty good song from a first listen.....
 

PleaseCheckYourReceipts

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Joined:  May 6, 2023
I know it is not that simple, but others manage to produce 2-3 songs in that time or whole EPs and here's just one song?
Well, anyway, I hope it is worth it.

Only the Holomems that have signed with a label have an active producer working with them, I believe. So they're acting as they're own. It's a lot of wrangling that has to happen to put an album out. And the streamer is normally the primary one that needs to be wrangled. This actually isn't surprising. The streaming talents are functionally independent contractors under Cover Corp, in many ways.



Mazu did the Myth's Bad End animation series. I can see why it took a while.

Also, that was almost a Riot-Core type of song, which is interesting.

Side point, but this probably matters a lot now. Gura's original music content tends to have themes of fighting against herself. That probably shouldn't be ignored, at this point.
 

White Stone

A literal white stone
Early Adopter
Joined:  Sep 12, 2022
Also 1 year+ for a song with a video? WTF is going with Holo sometimes?
As chumbud, I will say that I think Gura isn't completely faultless in this. Her perfectionist nature probably means everyone involved may have to redo their part multiple times which caused delay.

It's the same for Full Color never being released. If we were to compare it with Kronii's Souten ni Moyu and FauMei's It's Not A Phase, both of those songs were delayed too but it still ended up being released in the end. I wouldn't be surprised if Gura somehow rather have the song be never released than for it to be released in the state not up to her standard.
 

VTuberBobDole

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Joined:  Sep 30, 2022


Every day I wish she had had the drive of Calli or Bae. Amazing voice and still my favorite in all holo, even if we only got a few original songs out of it.
 

Negzana

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Joined:  Apr 15, 2023
Anyway, it seems like a pretty good song from a first listen.....
I didn't interpret the lyrics too deeply but it obviously was about her time in Hololive somehow. Will need to relisten to it.
 

thirteenorphans

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Joined:  Sep 16, 2022
Maybe Gura is just hard to work with when it comes to these things
I firmly believe someone could tell Gura "yeah I could probably do your work in 2, no 3 months" when she needs it in 1 and she would just go "oh ok" and wait instead of discussing solutions or workarounds.
 

PleaseCheckYourReceipts

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Joined:  May 6, 2023
Yeah. There's several youtubers I follow who used to post content regularly, but for years have irregularly posted a few videos a year, still the same quality as they used to, sometimes longer than normal, but their output just dropped. For some it's life-starting a family, IRL work, etc. Some just lost the drive for the output level, they used to have. I adjusted and just enjoy the surprise when their videos pop up and then go back to what I watch regularly. It's how I've treated Gura for a long time, how i plan to treat dooby's stream bursts, and how I'll treat whatever Gura does if it's stream, music, or video related. I worry about mumei vanishing forever because she was always enjoyably weird and it'd suck not to see stuff from her even just occasionally.
Nimi or Dottovu is the ones that'll be able to summon Mumei in the future. She's close to finishing her master's, right? She's the one we won't see much.
 

BlueSharkTV

Fucking Riggers
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Joined:  Sep 10, 2022
SINCE MUMEI IS GRADUATING I'M GOING TO SAY IT! :pippasquish:
Anus tart new start is just anime together forever! :pippasquish:

It's the same arrangement and the chorus follows the same rhythm, anyone could do a remix of the two songs and see for themselves :pippasquish:
 

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