I thought Fishman's original investment was $50k. Not saying he didn't make further infusions, but that was also a six-member gen across multiple markets. That's a lot different from "hundreds of thousands to millions," and PC is more-or-less the only example of a small corpo* moving up to the majors, even if there's still a vast gulf between them and the big two.
Millions is ridiculous, but if you wanted to seriously break into the vtuber market in 2024, I wouldn't be surprised if you had to spend over six figures to debut a five-talent lineup. You've got talent models (Sakana put that at around 10 to 15K per talent, if I recall correctly). You're going to want associated art like intros, outros and BGMs. You'd want to spend well on an advertising campaign. Also, you're going to want wages, at a minimum, for yourself and a talent manager, and you're going to want that for at least from when you onboard a talent and a couple of months after while the talents are still growing their audience. You're probably going to want some songs to go with the debuts too. Yeah, a six figure sum could go pretty easily.
Sakana said so himself in one of the more recent interviews he did but if he was starting now it'd be like 2-3x times the cost.
Nah, hundreds of thousands just to start and millions over the course of 2-3 years would be correct assertion today. Fishman jumped into last wagon, now you can't even dream about ever getting any returns from such little investment. You gotta promote the hell out of your talents, and sufficient promotion cost way more than debut package.
I think he said that wouldn't be enough these days.
The Holo EN members have mentioned at least having a few to pick from. A lot of their birthdays line up with something related to their character.
Do you think Doki is a millionaire?
"Breaking into the market" is such a nebulous thing that you can't put a price tag on it, you could spend 50k and slowly build your way up by reinvesting everything into the company and having A tier practices and strategy, but you could also spend a million on shit and never get off the ground as the money gets squandered. You have titans like sony who have burned tons of money to try to force their way into the market and gotten nothing but also indies who spent less than 5k who just have a great streamer career and get into Holo territory by themselves. The real currency of this industry is luck, not money. And the real spending is in effort and dedication, not throwing cash into a hole to try to brute force fame.
Hey, turns out i was right and she have her own corpo already! And she still need to somehow expand eventually to make ends meet, be it more diverse/stealth merch or onboarding couple of fellow canuck friends (realistically - both). But with director fucking her over, now i fear she won't expand in time.
Are you still trying to push this retarded idea? Jesus you do not know when to quit now do you?
you're kinda retarded ngl
I never said it gonna be streaming group. I meant getting few more streamers to sell merch in her store and maybe use her manager's services too for MV production, such things. She does employ multiple people already, she have problems with merch distributors, she deal with customs and manufacturers herself, i can see her start doing all shipping in-house too.
