General Thread v5 Guys: MariMari_EN Edition

[Ｍｕｒｒａｙしないで]

I mean... joining a random chinese startup... with no credentials... who instantly got into a bunch of issues and had people join and leave like a revolving door... who had one of their people talk a bunch of bullshit about holo on stream iirc... Idk if she didn't notice the MASSIVE RED FLAGS then I am seriously questioning her intelligence.

To be fair, "no credentials" is inaccurate as the company is apparently a player in the Chinese space and has connections to gatcha companies. But yes, after it almost instantly became clear they had no idea how to handle the EN space, she combined an "I can fix them" attitude with a defensive posture when people started second-guessing her affiliation with them (plus, perhaps, whatever fat stacks of cash or other favorable deals they were cutting for her) to blind herself to what everyone else could see.

Sayu's situation makes me feel sad, I know she was stupid but I would love to see fishman making an extraordinary expansion to invaders...

Apparently her previous conversation with Fish wasn't fruitful because he was unwilling to give in to whatever concessions she was asking for. Has Sayu stepped on enough rakes now to humble herself a bit and scale back those sorts of demands? Would Fish be willing to give her a second consideration given said history of rake-stepping? Especially given the reaction the Invaders announcement has gotten, I think almost everyone would say PC's position relative to Sayu has strengthened a lot since Sayu officially announced her affiliation with Noa. Can Sayu see that, though?

 

[NeneLOVE]

To be fair, "no credentials" is inaccurate as the company is apparently a player in the Chinese space and has connections to gatcha companies. But yes, after it almost instantly became clear they had no idea how to handle the EN space, she combined an "I can fix them" attitude with a defensive posture when people started second-guessing her affiliation with them (plus, perhaps, whatever fat stacks of cash or other favorable deals they were cutting for her) to blind herself to what everyone else could see.

I meant EN yes, the chinese vtubing space is a mystery to most of us and from what I have seen it is not overly developed anyway. Most of the popular people there are just nips who can speak mandarin.

 

[Sankisei]

I mean... joining a random chinese startup... with no credentials... who instantly got into a bunch of issues and had people join and leave like a revolving door... who had one of their people talk a bunch of bullshit about holo on stream iirc... Idk if she didn't notice the MASSIVE RED FLAGS then I am seriously questioning her intelligence.

I fear for the day that grown ass adults with fully developed brains can't be trusted with making basic logical decisions based on anything beyond their emotional state in that moment.

Yep its the dude sponsored Holo ID streaming into B2 and tought all of Holo would come back

 

[dkn2038]

To be fair, "no credentials" is inaccurate as the company is apparently a player in the Chinese space and has connections to gatcha companies. But yes, after it almost instantly became clear they had no idea how to handle the EN space, she combined an "I can fix them" attitude with a defensive posture when people started second-guessing her affiliation with them (plus, perhaps, whatever fat stacks of cash or other favorable deals they were cutting for her) to blind herself to what everyone else could see.



Apparently her previous conversation with Fish wasn't fruitful because he was unwilling to give in to whatever concessions she was asking for. Has Sayu stepped on enough rakes now to humble herself a bit and scale back those sorts of demands? Would Fish be willing to give her a second consideration given said history of rake-stepping?

He knows she's stupid but was willing to fix her

He has enough retarded females in his company to know how to deal with it

 

[TheHindrance]

Brave US has made an official app for Apple and Android (for some reason)
According to Google Play, it has had 1+ downloads so far!

Unrelated, but people that paste short links instead of the whole url even if it looks ugly should neck themselves

 

[I Wanna Die]

How does one bitch manage to consistently fill pages upon pages of this thread yet it is never about her content?

I wouldn't expect a Holokek to understand that there's so much more to being a streamer than streaming

 

[Horo7618]

I wouldn't expect a Holokek to understand that there's so much more to being a streamer than streaming

 

[Saturnus]

these "I told you so's" are irrelevant because she clearly believes she wasn't scammed she just joined a failed company through no malicious fault of their own. Whether that is the case is up for debate.

She was literally warned by concerned fans and friends that this might be a scam. She called the concerned fans "haters" that "didn't know what she knew" and that the scam corpo with a billion redflags was "nice to her". She deserves the "I fucking told you so" especially from the "haters". She keeps doing this to herself lol.

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

To be fair, "no credentials" is inaccurate as the company is apparently a player in the Chinese space and has connections to gatcha companies. But yes, after it almost instantly became clear they had no idea how to handle the EN space, she combined an "I can fix them" attitude with a defensive posture when people started second-guessing her affiliation with them (plus, perhaps, whatever fat stacks of cash or other favorable deals they were cutting for her) to blind herself to what everyone else could see.

Yes nothing behooves a stance of quality and professionalism as chinese coin thief cartoon games. This is even worse than having no proven credentials, because at least a legitimate "they have nothing" could be a shot-in-the-dark success. The second you hit Chinese it pretty much screeches to a halt.

 

[Pencilfreak]

Sayu can't stop shooting herself on the foot, huh. I can see why Mint and Doki never collab with her.

 

[I Wanna Die]

She was literally warned by concerned fans and friends that this might be a scam. She called the concerned fans "haters" that "didn't know what she knew" and that the scam corpo with a billion redflags was "nice to her". She deserves the "I fucking told you so" especially from the "haters". She keeps doing this to herself lol.

As one of the two resident Sayu fans left here I have done several writes ups/updates on the shit show that is NOA. The other one, @Xuhle has too and even started the thread about them. Her own fans realized how much of a shitshow this was gonna be more than anyone else.

But she saw those bottomless Chinese pockets and exclusive Mihoyo connections and shut her ears and eyes.

 

[NeneLOVE]

I wouldn't expect a Holokek to understand that there's so much more to being a streamer than streaming

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You dare speak to me lowly worm? Know your place, filth. You hath not experienced one one-billionth of the sheer suffering and tales of valor and sorrow that us, the HoloGODS, ancestral heirs of the holy throne of the four kings of Chu' baa have witnessed in our thousand-year journey to discover the true essence of vtubing. Go back to your dirty hovel and dream of even reaching my ankles, peasant.

 

[Todd's Strongest Howard]

You dare speak to me lowly worm? Know your place, filth. You hath not experienced one one-billionth of the sheer suffering and tales of valor and sorrow that us, the HoloGODS, ancestral heirs of the throne of Chu' baa have witnessed in our thousand-year journey to discover the true essence of vtubing. Go back to your dirty hovel and dream of even reaching my ankles, peasant.

What charts do to a motherfucker, a cautionary tale.

 

[VSoyBoy]

But hey, there's stuff she hasn't tried yet.
Maybe she could apply to wactor, or maybe Idol or some other Brave property.
Maybe, once doki corp is finally off the ground (it's definitely happening guys, MerelyTourist said so), she'll be able to apply and be rejected from there as well.

If she's really desperate, maybe she could hit up Mike and ask if they could band together. They have a lot in common.

 

[Abomination]

Cause no one actually bothers to watch her content, and they just wait until something bad happens to her and then just pretend that complaining is all she ever does. All these "I told you so's" are irrelevant because she clearly believes she wasn't scammed she just joined a failed company through no malicious fault of their own. Whether that is the case is up for debate.

That's nice she feels she wasn't scammed, and maybe she wasn't, but it hardly makes much of a difference at this point with where she ended up in less than six months. Plenty of people, no doubt mostly fans or people who just didn't want to see her walking into something like this, expressed concern, and she just handwaved all that away by saying these people didn't care about her. I'm not saying she absolutely had to listen to anyone, but to say that the people who didn't want to see this happen to her didn't really care about her back then was a bitch move and now she deserves to eat crow on this one.

And considering I'm one of those who posted an "I told you so", here's a message I wrote when it looked like she backed out of the deal at one point:

Smart of Sayu to end up backing out. Hopefully she can find something good for her in a corpo.

That being said, she really needs to be more careful when chasing after "deals" in joining a corpo. This one was weird looking from the start. Lucky for her, she didn't get deep enough into this one to cause her too many problems. I understand her desire to join a good corpo and get a good deal out of it, but there have been way too many newer small corpos involved in shady shit. She definitely needs to be cautious, especially given she's a fairly popular indie, and some people may be willing to promise things they ultimately won't be able to deliver just to get her signed on.

I can't say I was really a fan because I didn't watch her outside of a few collabs, but I was wishing her the best back then, but I just don't care anymore.

 

[Kazuma]

Ember is starting Expedition 33

 

[shipmate]

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@RestlessRain I think I've found what you were looking for sorry if you already knew about her

Isn't this bitch a 2nd class grifter who did some coomtubing or am I misremembering the whores?

Yeah? all that means is they went on a trip together and didn't get close three times.

Ill make fun of sayu all day unless we get 3 google docs explaining in detail they consider sayu their friend I'm not seeing a contradiction here.

There's the rat that FagUsagi tapped her ass and honestly, after what we've seen? I believe it. She would go that low.

Sayu can't stop shooting herself on the foot, huh. I can see why Mint and Doki never collab with her.

Her biggest failure was stopping @Saturnus from eating his acrylic stand.

 

[NeneLOVE]

There's the rat that FagUsagi tapped her ass and honestly, after what we've seen? I believe it. She would go that low.

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

 

[Horo7618]

Cute ESL fairy Peo just posted a concerning series of tweets, claiming she doesn't feel accepted by the english community and that she "lacked everything"

Spoiler: Archives

https://archive.li/9gJHn

https://archive.ph/ccHZD

https://archive.ph/jWxWt

https://archive.ph/nYmDL

I'm unsure of what might've spurred this apparent breakdown, it might be brainworms related to Gura's graduation, or something more specific to her community. Either way, I hope Peo snaps out of it soon and remembers how loved she is

EDIT: above tweets got deleted, new tweet has been posted:

Follow up

 

[shipmate]

I'm doubleposting because this is important: you guys remember when I (we) jokingly said how Loki opened the gates for fleshposting maybe baiting an audience with their real life assets, right?

Well, look what was posted today

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Spoiler: media

It seems that I was, in fact, correct. Not a stretch to say this is her working on her GFE by giving form to the human behind the model.

Can we have another "vtubers?", fellas? NeneLOVE is vindicated and it's your fault.