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Didn't catch the mold mention during the original collab but I wonder if this is the root cause of her cough issues. Probably something deeper than that, but it would be wild if it was just something that "simple".
Yes this is just me coping that she won't be away for months or forever after she graduates.
Yes this is just me coping that she won't be away for months or forever after she graduates.
Jealous?
good call on making those archives btw, she just said in her twitter space that she will delete those tweets
More Space stuff coming in here soon as well
NeneLOVE
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Nah, I don't really envy having to whore myself out for money or being a SEAmonkey femoid married to a simpering femboy goblino.
Don't forget the part where the goblino is addicted to touching the shit and cannot stop getting into twitter spats for some quick "owns."
It'd make me super happy, but realistically: I think doctors should have been able to discover that, and she probably would have started to get better during her trips to Japan.
I'm no doctor but mold probably wouldn't stop growing in her lungs if it's already there just because she's in Japan
Japanese air kills all but the strongest of bugs.
HonestHearts DLC starts today.
I expect Gigi to kill Follows-Chalk on accident at the very beginning a la DSP.
Kung Pow Movie Watchalong featuring Mooms, Rissa Ronii and Shiorin. Begins 2 hours from now. Edit: I am fucking blind.
Thread tax.
Mumei teaches you how to turn stream snipers into submissive pets.
Thread tax.
Mumei teaches you how to turn stream snipers into submissive pets.
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Killing is badong!
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Highlights of Kanade playing Pokémon Scarlet.
Animation of Miko, Mio, and Fubuki in Holonalds.
Kanade reacts to Elizabeth showing up on her singing stream.
Subaru talks about her powerful voice.
Calli talks about her packages being delivered to the wrong house, which reminded Gigi that she also struggled to find Calli's house.
Animation of Miko, Mio, and Fubuki in Holonalds.
Kanade reacts to Elizabeth showing up on her singing stream.
Subaru talks about her powerful voice.
Calli talks about her packages being delivered to the wrong house, which reminded Gigi that she also struggled to find Calli's house.
Kiara had a twitter space:
She mentioned her tweets and feelings from yesterday a bit, up to minute 13 in the beginning.
(Btw I dont know how to download or archive a space, so if anyone could edit this with an archive after, that would be nice)
For those that dont want to listen, I tried to do a transcript of relevant parts: (kursive is her words)
I indeed was surprised to see that someone already felt the need to try to reach out yesterday. But from what I can tell and see, this did seem like a genuine crisis as well, but it ended well, even without Kiara having to interfere.
Others might think this situation is not real or a joke, but I do have read about people who have been brought off an attempt because of a minor distraction that brought them to their senses. I will try to reconstruct how the events here might have played out, using other tweets as well.
He is making his attempt → Cockroach runs over his feet →Distracted for a bit→Pick up phone→See someone @ing Kiara in his replies→feeling of NOT wanting to bother his Oshi with their own problems snaps them out of it→realise what they were about to do→call an ambulance→for now, he still seems to be under police surveillance as well
A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 A6
Personally, I still have some very mixed feelings about this. I get where she is coming from, I get why she reacted the way she did. Unlike me, Kiara overflows with empathy and compassion, and wears her heart on her sleeve, always. Those are traits I very much cherish about her, and I would never want Kiara to change or hide who she is. I will take those traits, even if she risks hurting herself as well in the attempt to help.
But maybe that's just how she is, some people are built like that.
I was never all that worried about trolls or people abusing that, so that they can get a DM from Kiara, I do think she has enough of a head on her shoulders to filter out obvious trolls like that. Also, now that the tweet is down, I worry even less about that. Sure, the one or other guy might try to get to her, but I also think that most people will have forgotten about this in a few weeks time. The ones who will not forget are actual members of her community, they will remember her reaching out a helping hand. And for those, good. I get the impression that Kiara is looking at this situation much more pragmatically than people are giving her credit for. From her perspective it's not about "taking on the emotional burdens of someone else," it's "what can I do to get someone to seek proper mental medical health attention" and she wants to use her leverage over KFP in order to make that happen. Basically "if you won't listen to your doctor, maybe you'll listen to your oshi".
But that's maybe just my optimistic way to look at it. I do still worry about the day that a serious help flare is sent her way, she tries to help and talk, and they still commit. Kiaras mental is wonky at best, and she is close to her regulars, so something like that happening, idk, I just hope she won't blame herself.
She is taking on completely unnecessary burdens, but also, she has always been like that. Back in 2020, when she got that one famous Superchat from a cancer patient, she also said that, even if that was just a guy faking it for attention and larping, even then, on the off-chance it might be real she would rather spend some kindness on a fake than risk refusing some for the real deal.
She does have an overboarding heart anyways, what's wrong with saying something nice to someone. The internet is full of "you shouldn't try and help anyone, cause someone who might not actually need the help could benefit", but Kiara runs counter to that. Considering how her life went, and what kind of opposition she has faced in the past, I can only admire that she isnt a brooding cynical girl. I know I would be.
And personally, I think that's great.
I see the risks, and I am sure, on some level, Kiara does too, but to help someone, its worth it for her.
In a way, stuff like that makes me extra proud of calling her my oshi, because she takes risks and does those little things, that I could never do.
She mentioned her tweets and feelings from yesterday a bit, up to minute 13 in the beginning.
(Btw I dont know how to download or archive a space, so if anyone could edit this with an archive after, that would be nice)
For those that dont want to listen, I tried to do a transcript of relevant parts: (kursive is her words)
- Just came back from Yoga
- Saw a lot of people reacting kindly to yesterdays tweet.
- She is embarrassed that is blew up like that, was not expected.
- She doesn't want to sound like a bitch and be like "I will not help you because you aren't core KFP"
- I was very emotional last night and I did put myself in a position where there have already been several people supposedly trying to get my help, and I am saddened there is so much pain already within the community.
- But I cannot help the whole Hololive community. I know you guys will understand that, that's just real life, right. I don't know if my so to say terms [...] were not properly read or understood properly, and I will not even assume automatically that those people were trolls.
- [...] I do think there's genuine feelings there, but I haven't seen a single one [...] who's profile I can look at and say this is a core KFP.
- It sounds selfish enough to say, you aren't enough of a fan to help you, but that leads back to "I can't help everybody"
- Probably, as people pointed out, I shouldn't be trying to help anybody in the first place.
- I expected that real, core KFP, that such a situation would happen rare enough for me to - Its not gonna be a daily thing [...].
- And I am not just taking about someone being depressed, or sad or going through a rough time. I was talking about people being really, really thinking about ending it.
- [...] I think core KFP got the message tho and I don't mind if they try to reach out to me if it comes that far. As I said, I don't think that will be that often. Thankfully. The filtering in-between, I think right now maybe It's just extra much because my tweet is still going through peoples timeline thanks to the algorithm. But I feel pretty bad, having to ignore such messages already, but they are names I have never seen pop up in my replies before.
- [...] None of these people have my oshi mark in their name [...] so that's how I'm gonna filter it, and it's unfortunate that I have to do that in the first place. Now I'm obviously in a shitty situation, so I do think the message got across to all the people I wanted to get it across to. I do think all of KFP heard my sentiment and the community will hopefully not forget about that.
- So now I am thinking about deleting the tweet because otherwise it's gonna continue circling the algorithm and get random people to message or tweet at me with such expectations.
- I really didn't want to delete it cuz everybody was like "oh, you're burdening yourself" - No! It's okay, it won't happen that often. I will admit, with so many followers, it was not that smart to tweet that. Okay? But, It's my feelings, I want to help, if I could avoid such a situation, if I could help someone from my core fanbase to not do that, then I will happily do it.
- that thought continues on, and I want KFP to remember that. [...] That doesn't mean I take it back, all!
- The people who need to see it, saw it. And that doesn't mean non-core KFP are not important to me, all of the Hololive community, I want them all to be happy, I want all the world to be happy, and I want myself to be happy too. Ideally. I cannot try to be therapist for every single member of the Holo community.
- I've been feeling pretty emotional since I heard about the incident and still today, I feel emotional. And I don't want that to happen anymore. So let's all keep an eye open [...] towards the people surrounding us, not just within the community, always keep an eye open anywhere you go really. [...] Its just a reminder to open our hearts and be more aware of others feelings.
- She doesn't just want people to flee and save themselves from a shitty irl situation on the Internet, because the Internet is a rough and harsh place, she certainly felt that many times
- She is going to the dentist tomorrow
- She is scared that her pain got something to do with her roots and that she will pass pout due to the pain
- she is asking chat to tell her about their root canals
- She then talked about her MRI
- She always felt like she doesn't need help but now, after so many years, she is getting help too, so if Kiara can do it, so can you!
I indeed was surprised to see that someone already felt the need to try to reach out yesterday. But from what I can tell and see, this did seem like a genuine crisis as well, but it ended well, even without Kiara having to interfere.
Others might think this situation is not real or a joke, but I do have read about people who have been brought off an attempt because of a minor distraction that brought them to their senses. I will try to reconstruct how the events here might have played out, using other tweets as well.
He is making his attempt → Cockroach runs over his feet →Distracted for a bit→Pick up phone→See someone @ing Kiara in his replies→feeling of NOT wanting to bother his Oshi with their own problems snaps them out of it→realise what they were about to do→call an ambulance→for now, he still seems to be under police surveillance as well
A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 A6
Personally, I still have some very mixed feelings about this. I get where she is coming from, I get why she reacted the way she did. Unlike me, Kiara overflows with empathy and compassion, and wears her heart on her sleeve, always. Those are traits I very much cherish about her, and I would never want Kiara to change or hide who she is. I will take those traits, even if she risks hurting herself as well in the attempt to help.
But maybe that's just how she is, some people are built like that.
I was never all that worried about trolls or people abusing that, so that they can get a DM from Kiara, I do think she has enough of a head on her shoulders to filter out obvious trolls like that. Also, now that the tweet is down, I worry even less about that. Sure, the one or other guy might try to get to her, but I also think that most people will have forgotten about this in a few weeks time. The ones who will not forget are actual members of her community, they will remember her reaching out a helping hand. And for those, good. I get the impression that Kiara is looking at this situation much more pragmatically than people are giving her credit for. From her perspective it's not about "taking on the emotional burdens of someone else," it's "what can I do to get someone to seek proper mental medical health attention" and she wants to use her leverage over KFP in order to make that happen. Basically "if you won't listen to your doctor, maybe you'll listen to your oshi".
But that's maybe just my optimistic way to look at it. I do still worry about the day that a serious help flare is sent her way, she tries to help and talk, and they still commit. Kiaras mental is wonky at best, and she is close to her regulars, so something like that happening, idk, I just hope she won't blame herself.
She is taking on completely unnecessary burdens, but also, she has always been like that. Back in 2020, when she got that one famous Superchat from a cancer patient, she also said that, even if that was just a guy faking it for attention and larping, even then, on the off-chance it might be real she would rather spend some kindness on a fake than risk refusing some for the real deal.
She does have an overboarding heart anyways, what's wrong with saying something nice to someone. The internet is full of "you shouldn't try and help anyone, cause someone who might not actually need the help could benefit", but Kiara runs counter to that. Considering how her life went, and what kind of opposition she has faced in the past, I can only admire that she isnt a brooding cynical girl. I know I would be.
And personally, I think that's great.
I see the risks, and I am sure, on some level, Kiara does too, but to help someone, its worth it for her.
In a way, stuff like that makes me extra proud of calling her my oshi, because she takes risks and does those little things, that I could never do.
I hope your oshi grad...oh
The new banlist came out and Cover/Bushiroad decided to break the legs of anyone that played the Kanata deck and limit her most powerful card to one making it really hard for her to see any competitive play with this
The Reine/HoloID Decks can use the 6 colors of the game and are all competitive so they decided to limit Tatang to 1 because he its the enabler of most of the important plays of the decks and Reine can search it from the deck
Since Mumei its going to graduate and she is never going to get more support in future products she got unlimited back to 4 copies so maybe Promise can come back as a tiered deck after so long
The Reine/HoloID Decks can use the 6 colors of the game and are all competitive so they decided to limit Tatang to 1 because he its the enabler of most of the important plays of the decks and Reine can search it from the deck
Since Mumei its going to graduate and she is never going to get more support in future products she got unlimited back to 4 copies so maybe Promise can come back as a tiered deck after so long
She doesn't like the pressure? She should leave Hololive and go back to her indie account.
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