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RestlessRain

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She's not wearing one. She doesn't need to. Her side already won, it's just people like Pippa who need to be beaten into submission before victory goes from tenuous to complete, something that is well under way given how heavily she censors herself these days and how hard her CCV has tanked as a result.
Trump is going to be President in less than a month, with control of the Upper and Lower House, he wants to fix the US voting system and audit the votes, Trump's VP Pick, JD Vance looks like the frontrunner for the 2028 Presidency, and the Democrats can't even work out why they lost in 2024, and that sounds like the left is winning to you?
 

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A 90's democrat is going to be President in less than a month, with control of the Upper and Lower House, he pretend he wants to fix the US voting system and audit the votes, Trump's VP Pick, JD Vance looks like the frontrunner for the 2028 Presidency, and the other cheek of the same arse can't even work out why they lost in 2024, and that sounds like the left is winning to you?

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This 1800s pastor will surely have the most relevant opinions about 21st century politics.

How was he wrong? I'll go ahead and quote a friend on why the average US soldier in WWII would've joined the Reich if they saw the state of America in 2024.

"A statistical majority of them vociferously opposed integrating schools. The sight of men kissing would have incited most of them to violence. They would look at America today and tell you the wrong side won the war. The smart ones would tell you that the conditions of Weimar - inflation, hedonism, and societal rot - are now the conditions of civilization. No man in 1940 would have died for the world your generation built, because the only men who benefit from this arrangement are feckless cowards."
 

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How was he wrong? I'll go ahead and quote a friend on why the average US soldier in WWII would've joined the Reich if they saw the state of America in 2024.

"A statistical majority of them vociferously opposed integrating schools. The sight of men kissing would have incited most of them to violence. They would look at America today and tell you the wrong side won the war. The smart ones would tell you that the conditions of Weimar - inflation, hedonism, and societal rot - are now the conditions of civilization. No man in 1940 would have died for the world your generation built, because the only men who benefit from this arrangement are feckless cowards."
Bad breakup recently, Proctor?
 

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How was he wrong? I'll go ahead and quote a friend on why the average US soldier in WWII would've joined the Reich if they saw the state of America in 2024.

"A statistical majority of them vociferously opposed integrating schools. The sight of men kissing would have incited most of them to violence. They would look at America today and tell you the wrong side won the war. The smart ones would tell you that the conditions of Weimar - inflation, hedonism, and societal rot - are now the conditions of civilization. No man in 1940 would have died for the world your generation built, because the only men who benefit from this arrangement are feckless cowards."
I don't think men kissing was high up on his list of problems with "progressive" politics.
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Some religious leaders you got there...
 

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I don't think men kissing was high up on his list of problems with "progressive" politics.
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Some religious leaders you got there...

I think most people here would say "based," so your aim might be off, dude
 

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How was he wrong? I'll go ahead and quote a friend on why the average US soldier in WWII would've joined the Reich if they saw the state of America in 2024.

"A statistical majority of them vociferously opposed integrating schools. The sight of men kissing would have incited most of them to violence. They would look at America today and tell you the wrong side won the war. The smart ones would tell you that the conditions of Weimar - inflation, hedonism, and societal rot - are now the conditions of civilization. No man in 1940 would have died for the world your generation built, because the only men who benefit from this arrangement are feckless cowards."
it's a true and genuine shame that Churchill and Patton did not get their wish of the Allies attacking USSR in ~July 1945.
 

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Again.

How was he wrong? What part of that quote is wrong, disprovable, falsifiable?
Let's see...

Trump and Tom Homan are organizing mass deportations from day one of the Presidency, the opposite of Democrat policies to import millions of illegals.
Trump wants to fix the voting system, which doesn't sound anything remotely like the Democrat's open corruption of the voting process.
Trump wants to ban underage trans and trans people in sports, as well as open up medical malpractice claims against those who practiced surgery on minors, completely opposing democrats with some policies.
RFK is getting the chance to completely fix Health and Human Services, particularly vaccines and food.
There's also promises to reform various political agencies like the FBI, CIA and so forth.

If that all sounds like progressivism, but a couple of decades later, I don't know what to tell you.
 

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I uncritically still believe the promises of unelected officials before they have any power to do what they say they will do, even after the track record of every single democratic government on earth since the inception of the institution.

FTFY.
 

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Let's see...

Trump and Tom Homan are organizing mass deportations from day one of the Presidency, the opposite of Democrat policies to import millions of illegals.
Trump wants to fix the voting system, which doesn't sound anything remotely like the Democrat's open corruption of the voting process.
Trump wants to ban underage trans and trans people in sports, as well as open up medical malpractice claims against those who practiced surgery on minors, completely opposing democrats with some policies.
RFK is getting the chance to completely fix Health and Human Services, particularly vaccines and food.
There's also promises to reform various political agencies like the FBI, CIA and so forth.

If that all sounds like progressivism, but a couple of decades later, I don't know what to tell you.

What exactly are we arguing about here?

Also, I like how the Phase thread turned into the political thread almost immediately. It was meant to be.

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Are we politsperging now? Aight, bet.
I find it pretty hard not to notice a slow, but steady first world cultural shift that's been happening over the last 2, 3 years? American MSM's reaction to Trump's 2024 victory is, i feel, a pretty good example. It was just so muffled compared to both 2016 and 2020. They just seemed...exhausted.
 

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Also, I like how the Phase thread turned into the political thread almost immediately. It was meant to be.
The KF Pippa thread at least had the decency to last longer than a day before it devolved into discussion of home appliances.
 

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What exactly are we arguing about here?
Proctor's argument is that conservatives don't actually conserve anything. He might have had more of a point if MAGA and Trump hadn't turned the Republican party into a completely different animal, and if the uniparty wasn't so hell-bent on keeping Trump out of office for both of his terms. If Trump being President was irrelevant, they wouldn't have tried so hard to keep him out of office.
 

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also why is ireland-landed british man talking about usa politics
 

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So, to clarify.
Rie making/laughing at edgy jokes "including Hitler posting"(i don't remember this one so i'm putting it in quotes) is evidence of nothing, because leftist movements have no consistent standards.
Pippa self-censoring and being generally less edgy is definitive evidence of her being forced into a consistent standard of behaviour by a leftist movement within Phase.
Did you not follow the conversation. These are all evidences of "women are bad - Proctor"
Let's see...

Trump and Tom Homan are organizing mass deportations from day one of the Presidency, the opposite of Democrat policies to import millions of illegals.
Trump wants to fix the voting system, which doesn't sound anything remotely like the Democrat's open corruption of the voting process.
Trump wants to ban underage trans and trans people in sports, as well as open up medical malpractice claims against those who practiced surgery on minors, completely opposing democrats with some policies.
RFK is getting the chance to completely fix Health and Human Services, particularly vaccines and food.
There's also promises to reform various political agencies like the FBI, CIA and so forth.

If that all sounds like progressivism, but a couple of decades later, I don't know what to tell you.
I'd argree Trump is one of the more progressive president in US history. But you are falsely repeating democratic propaganda at the beginning there.
Obama and Biden deported far many more people than Trump did in 4 years. Trump also deported less people than Bush and Clinton, making him the most lenient president regarding deportation in recent US history.
Obama actually started the border wall and Biden finished it, while Trump did his best to disrupt and delay it.
If Hillary or Harris took presidency, they would also have deported more people than Trump ever will.
 
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