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Well, we know The Onion's readership now I guess: Shitlibs/progs. (pretending it wasn't already obvious) I don't envy baron's lot in life, lots of perks and lots of downsides. Good luck to that lanky nigga. Trump's eldest grandchild is only like 6 months younger than him. That's some rough shit.

Yeah, the tall, handsome son of the billionaire president sure is going to have a hard life, isn't he? What the fuck?

I really hate it when VTuber groups are far too willing to partner up with insane commiefornians like the Offkai staff just to get more exposure.


What does this have to do with Clara or anything else being discussed here? Wrong thread?
 

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Is 1750 dollars worth being a bit of a pariah and collabing more and more with culture war has-beens like Sidescrollers instead of being the face of small corpo vtubing NOOMBERS wise?
Its not even close. For example the offkai sponsor slot cost Phase at least $10K . They are willing to pay that just for advertising themselves to hopefully bring in new marks potential merch buyers.

I memed about sponsors earlier, but that $10K would easily be covered by one or two smaller Phase talents doing a sponsored stream. A single eBay auction of a handcrafted 1 of 1 model doesn't come close to meeting what Phase as a whole can earn at its current level let alone offering any hope of growing a business.
I respect Kirsche for having consistent beliefs but i have a feeling she will get irreparably burned by hanging out with that crowd, she hangs out with the only niche subculture more petty, vindicitive, and autistic than vtubing, internet politics
She will experience the same thing that happens to every online political influencer. Eventually she's gonna have a take or position which the online right disagrees with and they will crucify her and move onto the next new and shiny personality to glaze.
What does this have to do with Clara or anything else being discussed here? Wrong thread?
He's laughing at proctor politisperging at offkai whilst one of his "based" oshis is paying them out of pocket to sponsor a stage.
 

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She will experience the same thing that happens to every online political influencer. Eventually she's gonna have a take or position which the online right disagrees with and they will crucify her and move onto the next new and shiny personality to glaze.
Yeah, I was going to say something similar. Grifters aren't any different from GFE, the moment they have a slip up the entire thing falls apart and the support will just move on to someone else.
 

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She will experience the same thing that happens to every online political influencer. Eventually she's gonna have a take or position which the online right disagrees with and they will crucify her and move onto the next new and shiny personality to glaze.
It's already happened, I've seen people call her a sell-out or "controlled opposition" because she did "The Real Game Awards".
Funnily enough I've seen some tards try to go at her for having Jewish ancestry as well. Really, being involved with politics is just a waste of time.
Wait, why are we even discussing this? Smh Proctor derailing threads...
 

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Is 1750 dollars worth being a bit of a pariah and collabing more and more with culture war has-beens like Sidescrollers instead of being the face of small corpo vtubing NOOMBERS wise?

Why is she a pariah, though? It's because she's the only one willing to actually stand up to the tranny hive-mind that has, with essentially zero resistance, slid into control of most of vtubing. I know vtubers who want to do things like gun review streams but won't do it because it carries a very real and serious risk of them getting cancelled and dropped by both conventions and merchandise distributors. Even then, they get frequently struggle-session'd behind the scenes by feckless cowards who go 'yeah why bother standing up for anything lol? Just start whoring out and suck off the odd con organiser behind the stands. why are you trying to get better treatment from twitch or youtube? Just send Clancy a pic of your tits. Stop being a bother, stop being a problem, just conform'.

What I hate is the fact that there is objective, tangible evidence that audiences are screaming for content that actually aligns with their values. They want to support talents that aren't afraid to stand up to the cancel mob, but they don't get what they want organically because the market is strongly orientated towards suppressing and driving out anyone who dares to be anything more than 'safe edgy' at absolute best. Meanwhile people like Clara can get away with spitting venom and vitriol publicly at their coworkers, directly and indirectly, because they have the 'correct opinions'.

This entire structure could fall apart tomorrow if people had guts, and one or two major figures were willing to put in the effort and energy to break their monopoly. They have power only as long as they're allowed, by the implicit consent of the masses, to have that power.
 

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Why is she a pariah, though? It's because she's the only one willing to actually stand up to the tranny hive-mind that has, with essentially zero resistance, slid into control of most of vtubing. I know vtubers who want to do things like gun review streams but won't do it because it carries a very real and serious risk of them getting cancelled and dropped by both conventions and merchandise distributors. Even then, they get frequently struggle-session'd behind the scenes by feckless cowards who go 'yeah why bother standing up for anything lol? Just start whoring out and suck off the odd con organiser behind the stands. why are you trying to get better treatment from twitch or youtube? Just send Clancy a pic of your tits. Stop being a bother, stop being a problem, just conform'.

What I hate is the fact that there is objective, tangible evidence that audiences are screaming for content that actually aligns with their values. They want to support talents that aren't afraid to stand up to the cancel mob, but they don't get what they want organically because the market is strongly orientated towards suppressing and driving out anyone who dares to be anything more than 'safe edgy' at absolute best. Meanwhile people like Clara can get away with spitting venom and vitriol publicly at their coworkers, directly and indirectly, because they have the 'correct opinions'.

This entire structure could fall apart tomorrow if people had guts, and one or two major figures were willing to put in the effort and energy to break their monopoly. They have power only as long as they're allowed, by the implicit consent of the masses, to have that power.
The silent majority first must be proven to be actually principled or motivated enough to cast down the shackles of tranny faggotry as you want to believe, atleast in a consistent manner, a single event where she gets money is just a single event and must be proven to be consistent. The powers that be can also easily swat retards down, they just havent because there are bigger sources of faggotry to persue.
 

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Why is she a pariah, though? It's because she's the only one willing to actually stand up to the tranny hive-mind that has, with essentially zero resistance, slid into control of most of vtubing. I know vtubers who want to do things like gun review streams but won't do it because it carries a very real and serious risk of them getting cancelled and dropped by both conventions and merchandise distributors. Even then, they get frequently struggle-session'd behind the scenes by feckless cowards who go 'yeah why bother standing up for anything lol? Just start whoring out and suck off the odd con organiser behind the stands. why are you trying to get better treatment from twitch or youtube? Just send Clancy a pic of your tits. Stop being a bother, stop being a problem, just conform'.

What I hate is the fact that there is objective, tangible evidence that audiences are screaming for content that actually aligns with their values. They want to support talents that aren't afraid to stand up to the cancel mob, but they don't get what they want organically because the market is strongly orientated towards suppressing and driving out anyone who dares to be anything more than 'safe edgy' at absolute best. Meanwhile people like Clara can get away with spitting venom and vitriol publicly at their coworkers, directly and indirectly, because they have the 'correct opinions'.

This entire structure could fall apart tomorrow if people had guts, and one or two major figures were willing to put in the effort and energy to break their monopoly. They have power only as long as they're allowed, by the implicit consent of the masses, to have that power.
I just wanna watch vtubers without having to deal with the culture war or retarded political bullshit for five minutes. Phase Connect provides that to me. There are avenues of entertainment that exist if you need your entertainment to also fight in the culture war but not everyone needs to do that, nor should they be expected to.
 

Helkar

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This entire structure could fall apart tomorrow if people had guts, and one or two major figures were willing to put in the effort and energy to break their monopoly.
Tell you what, let someone else do it, and once the based new world ushers in, i'll enjoy Ember firearms review streams or whatever.
Fishman is not a general in the culture war and he doesn't have any obligations to become one.
Also this entire conversation should be transferred to either general or banter thread.
 

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I just wanna watch vtubers without having to deal with the culture war or retarded political bullshit for five minutes. Phase Connect provides that to me. There are avenues of entertainment that exist if you need your entertainment to also fight in the culture war but not everyone needs to do that, nor should they be expected to.

Imagine how many different kinds of content you'd have to watch if vtubers didn't have to deal with the culture war or retarded political bullshit for five minutes. I am not saying that vtubers should be more political. I am saying that the content they produce is inherently controlled and curated by politics and the culture war already. They don't have the freedom to 'just create', because they are at the mercy of others with agendas and powers who demand they either submit or become pariahs with no prospects, support or networking potential. Every single vtuber who isn't a 2view has been pressured in some way to conform and suppress their natural creativity for fear of offending someone else in the industry who could make their lives miserable, or watched someone else get benefits from having the 'right' opinions or virtue-signals.

Can you imagine the flip side of these coins? Can you imagine what it would be like is Clara and Rie were openly talking about Total Tranny Death or how black people are actually monkeys on their alts? The double standard is obvious; one side can get away with nearly anything, up to and including outright calls for violence and discrimination, while the other side gets cancelled and made to apologise profusely if they so much as accidentally say the n-word in a song written by an n-word to begin with. That kind of environment affects the content output of everyone, regardless of whether they would be openly political or not if given free reign.
 

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How are the two supposed to connect in your opinion? What do you think this would look like?
"Bravely smashing the tranny-jannies" is inherently becoming more political, becauce the entire culture war is political, obviously.
 

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How are the two supposed to connect in your opinion? What do you think this would look like?
You were trying to clarify that you dont think they need to be poltical while also wishing for them to be political in some form (i.e going against current year)
 

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"Bravely smashing the tranny-jannies" is inherently becoming more political, becauce the entire culture war is political, obviously.

... No, it's not. It's about getting rid of the politics. Standing up to someone and saying 'I am not allowing your politics to control my opinions, my actions, or how I do business' is not political. It's exercising neutrality. Which is what the status quo should be. Neither side should have the power to tell other people what they can and can't do.
 

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... No, it's not. It's about getting rid of the politics. Standing up to someone and saying 'I am not allowing your politics to control my opinions, my actions, or how I do business' is not political. It's exercising neutrality. Which is what the status quo should be. Neither side should have the power to tell other people what they can and can't do.
Well, i understand your sentiment, but it is all mostly idealized and seemingly not realistic
Its true that we should be resistant to these changes, but in more pragmatic terms, when engaging with the majorities that control public discourse, Neutrality isnt apolitical anymore, i hate this, most people here hate this, but ultimatetly, some would just rather go and play by the retarded realities of our world rather than being idealistic or revolutionary in trying to change them. Maybe its Yamanbacattle-ness, or maybe its just a lack of will since the effort of doing so would just be beyond crushing. See, Null's increasing obstacles and jaded feeling when just trying to keep a gossip forum afloat
 

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Can't wait until tomorrow when you can all go back to being serious so you can stop pretending that you're actually having this argument again.
 

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Well, i understand your sentiment, but it is all mostly idealized and seemingly not realistic
Its true that we should be resistant to these changes, but in more pragmatic terms, when engaging with the majorities that control public discourse, Neutrality isnt apolitical anymore, i hate this, most people here hate this, but ultimatetly, some would just rather go and play by the retarded realities of our world rather than being idealistic or revolutionary in trying to change them. Maybe its Yamanbacattle-ness, or maybe its just a lack of will since the effort of doing so would just be beyond crushing. See, Null's increasing obstacles and jaded feeling when just trying to keep a gossip forum afloat

I'm glad you do hate it. I hate it. I cope by living very far away from this nonsense and being as self-sufficient as possible, and even then, bullshit manages to dig its way into my live more than I'd like. I don't want to say any of this. I'd love to forget all about it and be able to live free of it all, but that isn't feasible without chopping out large parts of my personality and core values. I won't bang this drum anymore, but thank you for the indulgence.

The only thing I want to emphasize one last time is that I don't endorse any politics besides potentially right-leaning libertarianism, which is entirely because that's where you could nail my personality on the chart if it had to be done. I don't want 'based edgy alt-right vtubers' anymore than I want vtubers with fully rigged dilation animations. I just want the freedom to choose to support who I like and condemn who I like, without it involving a crusade to obliterate their memory from existence.
 
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