Hololive General

[NeneLOVE]

Good riddance, if you can't even hack the passion why even bother?

• “If you don’t get along with another talent, how will you manage working with them?

The million dollar question.

That has never really been an issue in EN has it?

Calli did say the audition staff are very particular about people's vibes and are good at telling if you are a person that is compatible with others or can at least get along professionally.

 

[Phantasm]

Edit: Also she literally admits in her grad video that joining a corpo was only a means to an end and she wasn't really passionate about it, so I guess the audition staff sniffed that one out somehow.

I wonder if the same team has been doing this since the beginning, as every talent has been a gem, even if some took time for some of them to shine. If so, they must have extensive experience in weeding out undesirables at this point.

 

[Smelliest007]

That has never really been an issue in EN has it?

Calli did say the audition staff are very particular about people's vibes and are good at telling if you are a person that is compatible with others or can at least get along professionally.

If it's ever been an issue, the people involved knew how to navigate it without turning into high school monkeys.

 

[NeneLOVE]

I wonder if they have the same staff doing the recruitment process since the beginning every talent they've had is a diamond even if some of them took some time to shine because if so they have to have a ton of experience in sniffing out undesirables at this point

Idk I think this person put in a lot of effort and is clearly very skilled but (unless she's just coping about not getting in which is possible) it does seem like she wasn't cut out for it. She just wanted something to earn money while she aimed to be a game dev, which is what she's seemingly graduating for, but I think it's pretty obvious Holo wants people who are in it for the long haul, not someone who said "Whether corpo or indie, I was planning to eventually stop streaming".

 

[Smelliest007]

Anyway for those of you only have 40 minutes in your life.

 

[Phantasm]

What the fuck Kronii? The body isn't even cold yet

 

[frz]

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A bit of perspective from an indie quitting vtubing forever, which means she can share her experience of auditioning for Holo 7 FUCKING TIMES lol, doesn't reveal much since she didn't get past the first round of interviews and the most interesting tidbit is probably this:


Which gives a bit of insight into what the audition process had evolved into after Council. It's interesting they explicitly mention content restrictions. Talents can't really claim they "didn't know" now.

Edit: Also she literally admits in her grad video that joining a corpo was only a means to an end and she wasn't really passionate about it, so I guess the audition staff sniffed that one out somehow.

I find the top comment very funny, as if the person saying "great I will copy you once I become a vtuber"
What do we even call the procrastination period before vtweeting, that one is supposed to start after getting a vtuber identity. This guy is stuck even before that.
Does "being an Azehara" counts?

I wonder if the same team has been doing this since the beginning, as every talent has been a gem, even if some took time for some of them to shine. If so, they must have extensive experience in weeding out undesirables at this point.

Almost every vtubers under the sun applied to hololive, Hololive even only has a 3 month reapply restrictions, they probs dealt with a million application a year.
I don't think they even need to try hard to pick out gems, the few hundred that already stood out among the million already are all gems waiting to be plucked
The main thing they needed to focus on was tardwrangling and weeding out "potential bad actors".

And uh holo has been doing this for like 8 years, even if they had people with 0 experience they should have plentyh of it now.

 

[Renmai]

That has never really been an issue in EN has it?

Calli did say the audition staff are very particular about people's vibes and are good at telling if you are a person that is compatible with others or can at least get along professionally.

I'm assuming this is the clip in question. If so, she mentions that the original EN team was small and fans of HoloJP. So they had similar expectations of the type of talents they wanted for EN, similar "vibe" aka being easy to get along with other girls, not a raging bitch and not the jealous type. Sounds like they learned the lessons from the JP side, probably Rushia. Anyone else?

 

[Smelliest007]

Sounds like they learned the lessons from the JP side, probably Rushia. Anyone else?

Yeah, Coco.

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

Everyone reacting to the ending PV.



"That she's evil doesn't even surprise me"- Kiara on Biboo.

Turning evil?

They're literally escaped convicts!

 

[NeneLOVE]

I find the top comment very funny, as if the person saying "great I will copy you once I become a vtuber"
What do we even call the procrastination period before vtweeting, that one is supposed to start after getting a vtuber identity. This guy is stuck even before that.
Does "being an Azehara" counts?

As more comments come in it only becomes more cringe, so many people coping and telling her that she "just didn't get lucky" as if getting into Holo is some kind of lottery and not based on skill or the agency's recruitment criteria and goals for any specific debut wave.

Indies deal with luck when/if they get popular, corpo auditions are simply contests of skill and overall appeal. Just accept that the company found people they liked better.

 

[Smelliest007]

As more comments come in it only becomes more cringe, so many people coping and telling her that she "just didn't get lucky" as if getting into Holo is some kind of lottery and not based on skill or the agency's recruitment criteria and goals for any specific debut wave.

Indies deal with luck when/if they get popular, corpo auditions are simply contests of skill and overall appeal.

The overly saccharine backpats redditors give to one another is exhausting.

 

[NeneLOVE]

The overly saccharine backpats redditors give to one another is exhausting.

It isn't only redditors, most social media sites are like that. People love performative optimism and kindness because it makes them feel like they did something for someone while sitting on their asses scrolling on their phone not moving a finger or sacrificing anything.

I don't blame the indie either, she didn't ask for pity or anything, more so just shared some info so others can have a reference and be better equipped to apply, which is quite noble. But retards cannot help but make it a "victim vs oppressor" situation where she was somehow wronged, when this girl isn't even going to keep being a chuuba.

 

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Of course, what can you expect from a woman who hasn't read ASOIAF and is just getting mad at second-hand information. I believe we call those people tourists here?

I however, have read the books. GRR Martin is a shock-value hack, nowhere on the level of Robert Jordan, let alone Tolkien. He wishes he were though.

 

[Phantasm]

I however, have read the books. GRR Martin is a shock-value hack, nowhere on the level of Robert Jordan, let alone Tolkien. He wishes he were though.

What you don't find the following the most fascinating thing in the world?

 

[NeneLOVE]

What you don't find the following the most fascinating thing in the world?

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ASOIAF is a product of its time, and so is LOTR.
Lotr was written in the post war period, when the world was half destroyed and people still looked back to old fairytales from the 1800s, which tolkien hated because they lacked the true essence of fantasy he felt was needed, which was fusing it with mythology. The story features many implausible characters and a generally optimistic worldview and themes.

ASoIaF was written in the late 90s and early 2000s, during an era where DnD and other works had driven fantasy away from the realm of implausibility and more into fantastical realism, which is an oxymoron and still persists today. It was edgy, realistic and rejected the moral basis and otherworldlyness of things like Lotr.

I don't think these books are very much alike, but I do think Tolkien knew what fantasy was better than Martin, who just seems to be recreating real medieval history with some fantasy elements. But that is what is popular nowadays, an era of culture where people have fantastical and idealistic views of reality but want gritty realism in fantasy fiction.

 

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I find the top comment very funny, as if the person saying "great I will copy you once I become a vtuber"
What do we even call the procrastination period before vtweeting, that one is supposed to start after getting a vtuber identity. This guy is stuck even before that.
Does "being an Azehara" counts?

Almost every vtubers under the sun applied to hololive, Hololive even only has a 3 month reapply restrictions, they probs dealt with a million application a year.
I don't think they even need to try hard to pick out gems, the few hundred that already stood out among the million already are all gems waiting to be plucked
The main thing they needed to focus on was tardwrangling and weeding out "potential bad actors".

And uh holo has been doing this for like 8 years, even if they had people with 0 experience they should have plentyh of it now.

I don't think their applications stretch to the millions. Probably maybe a 100 per week that filled out the text input properly. Though it doesn't surprise me that the indie that made the post only got 1 interview. It was after doing a MV, so she showed that she can sing & put a project together. But it seemed like she didn't get the point (like most of the aspiring types that will post on reddit) of what Cover is trying to do, even if they're pretty straight forward on what they're after.

I do think there's probably a severe issue of "American Corporate Hiring Practices" thought affecting a lot of those applying to Hololive. Which is to say that, in the States and for various reasons, you're trying to guess what the company actually is looking for when hiring. Not what they say they want, but what they actually want. It's a huge problem in the jobs market these days and really skews what I imagine a lot of people applying are trying to accomplish. Cover is looking for interesting talkers that can manage to be Brands Ambassador types. For the girls, that's to be quirky & fun. For the guys, there's a level of relatableness they want.

 

[Aquatic Novellite]

Martin, who just seems to be recreating real medieval history with some fantasy elements.

For the record, there's considerable pushback 2 3 against this notion.

 

[NeneLOVE]

I don't think their applications stretch to the millions. Probably maybe a 100 per week that filled out the text input properly. Though it doesn't surprise me that the indie that made the post only got 1 interview. It was after doing a MV, so she showed that she can sing & put a project together. But it seemed like she didn't get the point (like most of the aspiring types that will post on reddit) of what Cover is trying to do, even if they're pretty straight forward on what they're after.

I do think there's probably a severe issue of "American Corporate Hiring Practices" thought affecting a lot of those applying to Hololive. Which is to say that, in the States and for various reasons, you're trying to guess what the company actually is looking for when hiring. Not what they say they want, but what they actually want. It's a huge problem in the jobs market these days and really skews what I imagine a lot of people applying are trying to accomplish. Cover is looking for interesting talkers that can manage to be Brands Ambassador types. For the girls, that's to be quirky & fun. For the guys, there's a level of relatableness they want.

I agree but to me what Cover wants tends to depend on the company's current situation and who's in charge atm.

If I were to spitball a minimum laundry list of things Cover looks for in applicants it'd be:

• General knowledge of how to stream
• General knowledge of Vtubers and how vtubing works
• Other technical knowledge such as editing, OBS, troubleshooting
• At least some streaming experience (let's say minimum 50-100 hours)
• Ability to travel to Japan
• Ability to stream at least twice a weak for at least 2 years
• Passion for the job
• High ambition and dreams of fame
• A clear vision of their place and future in Holo should they get in
• Ability to be professional and get along well with others
• High drive to improve oneself and work hard

And the things I think improve the chances but likely aren't mandatory:

• Unique skillset the company doesn't already have in its roster
• Ability to sing/dance
• Ability to make art
• Fluency in Japanese

 

[Smelliest007]

Raora singing Linkin Park cute.