Hololive General

[frz]

they hired this retard


i rest my case

Gigi & Cece are literally the least degen in ENreco....
Irys is the one who is coomerbrain. Definitely reads too much hentai/yaoi. The HoloJP jokes kinda rings true. She's no less than the subaru of holoEN: "I'm not always here, but when I am, then I'm going to do the most degen shit possible"

The biggest instigator is actually biboo. She always give people a push to incite chaos. She eerily fits her lore so fucking much lolw.

tl;dr don't blame Brave, blame Final Fantasy ERP.

 

[Yume Dark]

So it seems like there's a Holo game jam going on?

I dunno anything about it, but the trailer's pretty nice.

 

[Smelliest007]

Someone keeps posting this clip on 4ch, it's old news by this point and obviously it's better to just move on rather than dwell on the past, so they are probably just trying to make people seethe...

https://files.catbox.moe/9ypw8w.mp4

...And it's working.

Imagine that work pipeline. She had to scrap all plans and come up with a completely new 3d live; new theme, new setlist, new perms, new backing tracks, new 3d sets, new guests (probably), and she can't delay it because even that would take too long to get....1 model from her 1 million wish. All that extra time. effort, and stress because they can't make a 3d model on time. Basically, "It is easier for you, a single person, to start from square one and do absolutely everything from scratch, than it is for us, an entire company to make a 3d model."
(and no, I am not implying that all of those things were completed and waiting for the model, I am mainly complaining about it to point out the timeline. Many girls have talked about how much goes into planning and producing their own 3d lives, months and months and months and months of brainstorming and work before the final product is released, and Cover can't make a 1 million wish alternate 3d model in that same timeframe.)

Oh yeah, and it's not in that clip, but also she knew what she wanted for her 1 million wish even before she hit it, but they didn't allow her to request it until after she hit 1 million. They could have started planning it earlier because it's obviously just a matter of time when the talent is at 990k (talk to the artists, get concepts fleshed out, etc), but the Japanese autism required waiting until it's official.

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Retard, it should obviously be hats, not meds.

Love Moom, but it's time to let go. You need to stop biting the ragebait.

 

[NeneLOVE]

So it seems like there's a Holo game jam going on?

I dunno anything about it, but the trailer's pretty nice.

This has been going on for a couple of years, they organize jams every few months but it has never been that popular, mostly a bunch of broken demos.
When you realize the Holo fanbase is so massive there are niche sub-fanbases inside of it.

 

[Aka Split]

I watched the clip, nothing about it said 1 million model, are you perhaps conflating 2 completely different events into one? Birthday live delays aren't only restricted to Mumei or 3d models. Kiara & Ina has theirs for months, multiple times, I don't remember anything about their 1 million wish 3D model (I think kiara used hers on the space invader outfit?).

HoloEN is basically a back burner for Hololive for a long long time and still is now when it comes to concerts.

She talked about the 3d model in the last members stream which was already talked about when it happened. It was going to be a 'hair-down pop punk outfit that was good for performing in'. In that last stream she explicitly said something like, "Remember when I talked about how I had to completely start over with my birthday 3d live? This is why." The issues she talked about in this clip were because they couldn't do the 3d model, and even after that they kept delaying it over and over until finally they told her it couldn't be done even by graduation, and when she asked if she could get something else instead, they told her no.

 

[White Stone]

Someone keeps posting this clip on 4ch, it's old news by this point and obviously it's better to just move on rather than dwell on the past, so they are probably just trying to make people seethe...

https://files.catbox.moe/9ypw8w.mp4

...And it's working.

Imagine that work pipeline. She had to scrap all plans and come up with a completely new 3d live; new theme, new setlist, new perms, new backing tracks, new 3d sets, new guests (probably), and she can't delay it because even that would take too long to get....1 model from her 1 million wish. All that extra time. effort, and stress because they can't make a 3d model on time. Basically, "It is easier for you, a single person, to start from square one and do absolutely everything from scratch, than it is for us, an entire company to make a 3d model."
(and no, I am not implying that all of those things were completed and waiting for the model, I am mainly complaining about it to point out the timeline. Many girls have talked about how much goes into planning and producing their own 3d lives, months and months and months and months of brainstorming and work before the final product is released, and Cover can't make a 1 million wish alternate 3d model in that same timeframe.)

Oh yeah, and it's not in that clip, but also she knew what she wanted for her 1 million wish even before she hit it, but they didn't allow her to request it until after she hit 1 million. They could have started planning it earlier because it's obviously just a matter of time when the talent is at 990k (talk to the artists, get concepts fleshed out, etc), but the Japanese autism required waiting until it's official.

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Retard, it should obviously be hats, not meds.

You know, I wasn't planning to talk about this, but since you did bring up special 3D model, I might as well.
I'm sure we all remember that Gura had a new 3D model in her graduation live, this one:

It was basically a 3D model based on her outfit in Ash Again, and that would be the only time it was used. I seriously doubt Cover would commission a 3D model just for it to be used once, so I'm curious on the original timeline of how that 3D model came to be. Was it commissioned all the way back when she started working on Ash Again, when she hadn't plan to graduate yet? I have talked about how weird it is that her birthday live last year was so short and had no solo performances at all. I wonder if she planned to perform this song back then, in which she would reveal this model at the same time.

Also, since Cover don't usually provide new 3D model to a talent outside of special occasion like milestone wish and sololive, this was probably one of her 1M wishes.

 

[La+ de Central Norte]

Lui's new outfit looks great

She also appears to be releasing a new song cover and participating in some group event.

View attachment 97729

Lui is Super cute

Also that event its the second tournament of this weird game

 

[Poyoyo & Jill]

Also, since Cover don't usually provide new 3D model to a talent outside of special occasion like milestone wish and sololive, this was probably one of her 1M wishes.

This is more interesting that anything else that has been discussed in this forum lately
Wich are exactly her 1M wishes? I am pretty sure people said the Nendo and maybe this outfit but where are the rest?

 

[Aka Split]

You know, I wasn't planning to talk about this, but since you did bring up special 3D model, I might as well.
I'm sure we all remember that Gura had a new 3D model in her graduation live, this one:
View attachment 97773
It was basically a 3D model based on her outfit in Ash Again, and that would be the only time it was used. I seriously doubt Cover would commission a 3D model just for it to be used once, so I'm curious on the original timeline of how that 3D model came to be. Was it commissioned all the way back when she started working on Ash Again, when she hadn't plan to graduate yet? I have talked about how weird it is that her birthday live last year was so short and had no solo performances at all. I wonder if she planned to perform this song back then, in which she would reveal this model at the same time.

Also, since Cover don't usually provide new 3D model to a talent outside of special occasion like milestone wish and sololive, this was probably one of her 1M wishes.

The lazy answer is: Because it's Gura.
Actual answer: going off of Mooms screw-job, the pipeline is at least ~1 year to make a 3d model. She hit 1 million back in January 2024, and then all that garbage happened where they couldn't have it done for her birthday live which was over 6 months away. After that happened is probably when she decided to graduate, at which point they probably stopped working on it completely without telling her.
If you want to be magnanimous and say they did keep working on it to do right by her wish, then that means that even working on it until her graduation at the end of April 2025 wasn't enough time. So it takes longer than 1 year and 3 months to get a 3d model made.

Did Gura give a timeline on how long Ash Again was being worked on? The similarity to the music video outfit could also easily be explained by being based on the same concept art, so I don't think it's a given that the outfit was linked to the song in any way other than, "Well these are the last projects I'm doing, might as well have them themed together"

 

[Koronesuki]

Korone apologizes for making the other girls and her listeners worry:

 

[Superduper Samurai]

This argument about graduations brought to you by the holo thread's unofficial sponsor


Part of every rrat's nutritious breakfast

 

[Aka Split]

This argument about graduations brought to you by the holo thread's unofficial sponsor
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Part of every rrat's nutritious breakfast

Yeah, 'rrats', sure. Darned Mumei telling rrats about her own experiences.

https://files.catbox.moe/sfej74.mp4

 

[agility_]

Wich are exactly her 1M wishes? I am pretty sure people said the Nendo and maybe this outfit but where are the rest?

To be spared from her fanbase. A wish which unfortunately won't come to pass.

 

[Willemshaven]

Vivi fights Raden, Riona, Kanade, and Niko during a DEV_IS Super Smash Bros. Ultimate tournament by Ririka.

Spoiler: VOD's and other information

Rules and Introduction:


Tournament:


Finals:


Characters used:

• Nico: Yoshi, Samus
• Riona: Yoshi, Donkey Kong
• Vivi: Sephiroth
• Raden: Villager
• Kanade: Kirby
• Chihaya: Samus
• Su: Kirby
• Hajime: Kirby, Link

Risu got into a match with Marvel Rivals pro player SuperGomez.

(And a longtime fan of Selen/Dokibird.)

Subaru talks about another DM conversation she had with Nerissa, plus Subaru asking for a hip attack of hers.


Two Miofas seek Mio's advice.

 

[PleaseCheckYourReceipts]

The lazy answer is: Because it's Gura.
Actual answer: going off of Mooms screw-job, the pipeline is at least ~1 year to make a 3d model. She hit 1 million back in January 2024, and then all that garbage happened where they couldn't have it done for her birthday live which was over 6 months away. After that happened is probably when she decided to graduate, at which point they probably stopped working on it completely without telling her.
If you want to be magnanimous and say they did keep working on it to do right by her wish, then that means that even working on it until her graduation at the end of April 2025 wasn't enough time. So it takes longer than 1 year and 3 months to get a 3d model made.

Did Gura give a timeline on how long Ash Again was being worked on? The similarity to the music video outfit could also easily be explained by being based on the same concept art, so I don't think it's a given that the outfit was linked to the song in any way other than, "Well these are the last projects I'm doing, might as well have them themed together"

For Ash Again, odds are that's been in the works for 2 years. Because Gura Timelines. It took that long for Carbonated Love by Irys to get out.

That said, for Mumei, I'm going to speculate that Cover completely F'd up their 3D model pipeline and clearly tried to do too much in-house. Maybe add a bit of Nippon Fishbowl ideology in a department (where non-JP get deprioritized), I think you get a better picture. Because it wouldn't just be Mumei's 3D. In that timeframe they also launched they'd have the 3D projects for all of Fes in '24 and '25, Summer Fes, Flowglow, Advent, whatever is the next JP wave is and every other 3D model update as well. It's less Mumei was intentionally screwed over and far more they probably were understaffed for the number of 3D model projects they have to manage, and it's not like Mumei is one that can easily call up the head of that department and yell at them.

Cover didn't have the bandwidth they needed and it's part of why they've clearly started changing up a bunch of stuff internally. We also don't know if they might have outsourced Mumei's work and the outside contractor just failed, then in the standard Japanese Corpo way they just never properly told Mumei the problem and apologized for it. It's what happens when you put two people slightly on the spectrum on a project together. You'll be lucky if they ever talk to each other, for weeks.

Probably doesn't come up enough, but in a professional sense, if you're dealing with Japanese Companies or even just native Japanese, always remember their brains never quite have left Middle School. If too much of Western industries get stuck acting like high schoolers, the Japanese are stuck in Middle School. Once you see it happen in real time, for the first time, you'll understand them a lot better.

I guess as a side point, since I'm explaining a massive generalization of the Japanese, if you're dealing with Americans, just offer to buy them beer. Find out what they like, buy them a 6 pack and sit down & drink with them. You can work out nearly any issue you might have with an American that way. Bonus points, if you're outside the States, by taking them to a place with either good Tacos, Burgers or Pizza. (There's other food options that work really well, but it's incredibly regional and that takes more knowledge of where in the USA the person is from. There's about 100 different food cultures in the States. But Tacos, Burgers, Pizza or a Sandwich will normally work.)

 

[Shuba]

Yeah, 'rrats', sure. Darned Mumei telling rrats about her own experiences.

https://files.catbox.moe/sfej74.mp4

It's more about the looping part. The 1 million wish thing and the 3D live screw-up were brought up not that long ago. Hell, they were brought up by you.

And now you're talking about it again cause... you saw clips on 4chan and got ragebaited? I mean yeah it sucks and it always will, but bringing up the same points literally 2 weeks later, simply out of anger doesn't really do anything for anyone. You're free to vent but @Smelliest007 said it best. Gotta let go eventually. Or at least let go enough so that you don't get randomly baited by scrolling 4chan.

 

[NeneLOVE]

Yeah, 'rrats', sure. Darned Mumei telling rrats about her own experiences.

https://files.catbox.moe/sfej74.mp4

You're mad, we get it, but what do you want us to do? This is about something which is already over and unsalvageable which none of us have control over.

If it makes you that mad then about the only thing you can do is stop supporting cover financially and support the talents which left, or just stop watching Holos altogether.

 

[Aka Split]

It's more about the looping part. The 1 million wish thing and the 3D live screw-up were brought up not that long ago. Hell, they were brought up by you.

And now you're talking about it again cause... you saw clips on 4chan and got ragebaited? I mean yeah it sucks and it always will, but bringing up the same points literally 2 weeks later, simply out of anger doesn't really do anything for anyone. You're free to vent but @Smelliest007 said it best. Gotta let go eventually. Or at least let go enough so that you don't get randomly baited by scrolling 4chan.

You're mad, we get it, but what do you want us to do? This is about something which is already over and unsalvageable which none of us have control over.

If it makes you that mad then about the only thing you can do is stop supporting cover financially and support the talents which left, or just stop watching Holos altogether.

It's mostly because I came across the clips. Not the 'being baited by them' part, but I mean 'this is what I was talking about before but with actual sources instead of paraphrasing'.
Some people do take what someone said and spin rrats off of it, so it was to prove that it wasn't just assumptions and extrapolations. Otherwise people might spin their own meaning out of a paraphrased story, leading to an eventual telephone game scenario.

So now it's like, "Oh, someone made clips of what I was talking about, now people can hear it directly from the horsegirl's mouth."

Calling it 'rrats' to somehow imply that it's not real is retarded though.

 

[Sankisei]

It's mostly because I came across the clips. Not the 'being baited by them' part, but I mean 'this is what I was talking about before but with actual sources instead of paraphrasing'.
Some people do take what someone said and spin rrats off of it, so it was to prove that it wasn't just assumptions and extrapolations. Or people might spin their own meaning out of a paraphrased story, leading to an eventual telephone game scenario.

So now it's like, "Oh, someone made clips of what I was talking about, now people can hear it directly from the horsegirl's mouth."

But we already discussed it (unless i missed someone calling it a rrat)
As someone who got their oshi (rightfully) terminated i cant only have happy toughts when a Holo at least gets some kind of goodbye( even if there are some that are betters than others) instead of an abrupt end

 

[Aka Split]

But we already discussed it (unless i missed someone calling it a rrat)
As someone who got their oshi (rightfully) terminated i cant only have happy toughts when a Holo at least gets some kind of goodbye( even if there are some that are betters than others) instead of an abrupt end

At least you have ......4(?) reincarnations to fall back on!
(for legal purposes, this is a joke)