Hololive General

[Wixoyu]

17,508 officially listed islands within the territory of the Republic of Indonesia....

Irrelevant when all but 1 or 2 of them, before Zeta moved, lived in Jakarta, and the few who didn't still lived on the capital island.

 

[Punished Anime Discusser]

I'm gonna be honest. She is pregnant with my kid. That is the real reason.

See how sad Nimi was with her "cat"? She had a miscarriage and I will do better next time.

Randon, my orcgga, when are you going to stream next? It's been 5 days.

 

[I Wanna Die]

the more people say this the stronger she gets.
>people want her to be the first council member to graduate
>Sana fucking explodes
>people want her to be the first member of SNOT to graduate because she dared to collab with men
>she's the last SNOT member standing

Holy shit she is. Now if only she'd start playing better games I might start watching her again.

 

[Belle Delphine's Armpit]

Holy shit she is. Now if only she'd start playing better games I might start watching her again.

I miss her minecraft streams

 

[Johnny Jambalaya]

Irrelevant when all but 1 or 2 of them, before Zeta moved, lived in Jakarta, and the few who didn't still lived on the capital island.

Java is the most populous island on earth and makes up over 50% of Indonesia's population.

 

[Saturnus]

This kills the dramafag

Bro you gotta think of the poor dramafags bro they have to cancel their 1st class flights to Japan from their shithole countries bro PLEASE think about the poor dramafag bro they're gonna have to think about making actual content bro.

 

[RiverBear]

Damn, Calli was about to graduate in the first 2 years of being in Hololive and was almost ready to accept that she's just going to be a Walmart employee forever

We are in the wrong timeline

 

[USS IOWA]

the more people say this the stronger she gets.
>people want her to be the first council member to graduate
>Sana fucking explodes
>people want her to be the first member of SNOT to graduate because she dared to collab with men
>she's the last SNOT member standing

TIME IS ETERNAL, IT WAS HERE BEFORE US AND IT WILL BE HERE AFTER US.

 

[Negronald Trump]

No it won't I've already seen several FAGS say that Calli is next and that whatever the talents say is just PR for the corpo they don't care about what's real they only care about what they think is the "truth" as long as it aligns with what they already believe

 

[NTRAntagonist]

Puzzle

Assemble jigsaw puzzles on your own or with your friends, you do have friends, right?

jiggie.fun

 

[Punished Anime Discusser]

Bro you gotta think of the poor dramafags bro they have to cancel their 1st class flights to Japan from their shithole countries bro PLEASE think about the poor dramafag bro they're gonna have to think about making actual content bro.

They already figured out the filipino life hack, they'll just call Mori a sellout, it's fine, they'll get to eat pagpag straight from the dumpster tonight.

>mori sees a Doom imp
>"Oh, that's an archer"

 

[GenericName11]

the more people say this the stronger she gets.
>people want her to be the first council member to graduate
>Sana fucking explodes
>people want her to be the first member of SNOT to graduate because she dared to collab with men
>she's the last SNOT member standing

There is some profound bullshit like "Truly in the end, only time remains" in there somewhere.

edit: dammit I was 2slow

 

[God's Strongest Dragoon]

You. are. not. going. to. be. told. the. actual. fucking. reason. why. EVER.

Wrong, I am going to take a bunch of drugs and have the voices in my head tell me the reason.

 

[NeneLOVE]

Why do these things always have to be a manichaean good vs bad duality? Like why can't someone just accept whether or not Cover is going rotten, the main thing is that what you once enjoyed just isn't the same anymore and you should move on? You don't need to demonize Cover to have that sentiment. I'm still sticking with Hololive, but like I just can't understand the mindset of hating them. Nothing has suggested this is like Nijisanji where the corpo is actively incompetent.

Because on the internet there are no gray areas, something is either good or bad. Trying to be nuanced or injecting doubt into people's narratives will always be perceived as being completely opposed to an idea.

You see it in this very forum with some people acting like not going along with the wild speculation and dooming means one must not be concerned about current events or have any negativity towards the company.

I do not think this string of grads is "just coincidence", I am not blind to the implications (I lived through the fucking taiwan drama, I know the levels of bullshit Cover is capable of) but whatever the reason is it is probably much more subtle, or convoluted than anyone here can guess, considering we still don't accurately know. Mumei spewed out the same stock reason as everyone else, but she is so undeniably sick and unable to do the basic functions of her job that there is simply no way her primary reason for leaving was not health issues.

My theory is that talents are either being forced to stream or their revenue split got reduced or possibly that it is a domino effect and a bunch of talents that were considering leaving for a while got pushed to do so because of the others also leaving.

Wrong, I am going to take a bunch of drugs and have the voices in my head tell me the reason.

Jambo you are the only one I will believe 100% no proof required.

 

[Tubedude]

I'm just hoping the tourist and normie shit takes make the worst people in the english vtuber space decide to not clog up future Hololive EN generation auditions. They tend to be pretty good with selecting people recently, but less chaff to sift through would be nice I'm sure.

 

[Not Important]

My theory is that talents are either being forced to stream or their revenue split got reduced or possibly that it is a domino effect and a bunch of talents that were considering leaving for a while got pushed to do so because of the others also leaving.

Yeah, likewise I think they put up an ultimatum for non-streamers: sort your shit out or leave. Mumei couldn't sort her health issues (if it is possible) and Shion and Gura didn't care to do so. I don't think it is a coincidence all three graduations are schelduled before May. Looking at it from a corporate point of view, they are cleaning house from "lazy (in their view)" people, even if it costs them reputation and breeds rats.

I don't like it: while I understand that if you were hired for a job, you must work, at the same time, streaming is not exactly your run of the mill 9/5 job. It requires drive and passion, not to mention combining its all with idoling and you get a recipe for a burn out, which we could see with other girls. Such constraints might force some girls to quit, even, if before they wouldn't think of it.

 

[Seoleim]

Differences in management and company direction could mean so many things. Yagoo (potentially) wanting the company to do more media stuff like 3D lives, songs, dancing and concerts is a company direction. Gura/Mumei/Fauna/Shion/whoever else wanting to play games, be stupid with their friends and enjoy themselves without any additional pressure is another direction the girls clearly find more attractive since they must know now their audience will follow if they want to start streaming again.

Some people out there talking like Yagoo is personally exploiting the girls in sweatshop conditions until exhaustion or some shit are retarded.

 

[Awoogers]

If 4chin was still alive it would probably be melting down at this moment

 

[NeneLOVE]

Yeah, likewise I think they put up an ultimatum for non-streamers: sort your shit out or leave. Mumei couldn't sort her health issues (even if it is possible) and Shion and Gura didn't care to do so. I don't think it is a coincidence all three graduations are schelduled before May. Looking at it from a corporate point of view, they are cleaning house from "lazy (in their view)" people.

My reasoning for the first 2 is that this is hitting both EN and JP, if it was only one branch I could believe a manager being the issue but we know for a fact that the branches are managed separately, so low-tier managers or even branch managers couldn't be making people from multiple branches quit, that leaves upper management, but that is similarly unlikely because those guys do not interact with the talent directly, it would be pretty hard for them to harass people to the point of quitting if they aren't directly messing with them.

So a reason which hits multiple talents in multiple branches must be a company-wide policy change, of which the most likely to affect people is gonna be the revenue split, the streaming hours comes second simply because of the amount of low activity talents dropping. You could argue other shit like perms (which have gotten better not worse) or project cancellation but unless that got extremely bad I cannot see it setting off so many people at once so quickly.

My third idea is the mixed bag explanation, in which there were a handful of unhappy talents that all got inspired or pushed to quit by each other, in this case the true reasoning for quitting could be many things, from health issues, to project cancellation to burnout to wanting to advance their career. Which is honestly the most likely to me. I have begun believing that Aqua in particular broke something within the internal culture of the company, maybe people were afraid to leave before because of peer pressure or they thought they wouldn't succeed without Holo, and her leaving was just the push many of these girls needed to finally pull the trigger.

 

[ValkyrieAce]

My reasoning for the first 2 is that this is hitting both EN and JP, if it was only one branch I could believe a manager being the issue but we know for a fact that the branches are managed separately, so low-tier managers or even branch managers couldn't be making people from multiple branches quit, that leaves upper management, but that is similarly unlikely because those guys do not interact with the talent directly, it would be pretty hard for them to harass people to the point of quitting if they aren't directly messing with them.

So a reason which hits multiple talents in multiple branches must be a company-wide policy change, of which the most likely to affect people is gonna be the revenue split, the streaming hours comes second simply because of the amount of low activity talents dropping. You could argue other shit like perms (which have gotten better not worse) or project cancellation but unless that got extremely bad I cannot see it setting off so many people at once so quickly.

My third idea is the mixed bag explanation, in which there were a handful of unhappy talents that all got inspired or pushed to quit by each other, in this case the true reasoning for quitting could be many things, from health issues, to project cancellation to burnout to wanting to advance their career. Which is honestly the most likely to me. I have begun believing that Aqua in particular broke something within the internal culture of the company, maybe people were afraid to leave before because of peer pressure or they thought they wouldn't succeed without Holo, and her leaving was just the push many of these girls needed to finally pull the trigger.

If they just want to stream and fuck around, Aqua and Fauna have more than proved they can be successful as long as they keep doing what they were in Holo under a different name, so I'm sure that has shown ones that don't want to go all in on the full entertainment stuff that they can leave and at least keep a decent portion of their fans.