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CalciumAnimal

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...What is Pekora playing?

Amanda the Adventurer yet another in a long long line of horror games that parody children's media in this case Dora The Explorer
I mean this wirh absolutely no intention of it being bait.

Why are you all so bad at picking Oshi's? Half the girls posted here are barely watchable 2-views who's only redeeming feature is they're so bad they don't draw an audience so they respond to you.

I'm not saying you can't like these girls but if someone is your OSHI you want them to succeed.
wouldn't that also include rising up from being a two view? you answered yourself.
 

DanchousLoyalHamu

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...What is Pekora playing?
I can answer that. Its the latest FOTM horror game, this games concept is something something satanic public access pre-school show. Its alright, nothing good or bad just alright honestly not as good as people (especially on twitter) may make it out to be.

Also clip tax:

Man Flare has a beautiful singing voice

Lmao.
 

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The comment section is honestly part of the reason why I haven't put much effort into talking about the shitstorm Niji's been in this year. The one thing I can't stand in the Vtuber community is the ridiculous amount of tribalfagging, and this situation has pretty much cranked it up to 11. Feels like wherever you look, people are just huffing their own farts about it, like "wow, Hololive very based, master race". As someone who tries to watch Holo/Niji/smaller corpos where possible, I 100% agree Niji needs substantial changes to their management if they want to improve as a company, but I refuse to interact with smug shills who think they're better than you because "they don't watch (((other))) companies".

Also for the record, I don't include this place in that -- there's a pretty major difference between baitposting/banter, "I just watch Holo because there's only so much I can watch with my IRL obligations and they're the ones I'm comfortable with", and "I only watch Hololive because they're the only good ones and everyone else is probably just a black corpo/shitty person anyway", and most of this place tends to fall into the first two.
I gotta be real with you man, I haven't watched any hololive or nijisanji in a while and even I have to agree with some of this. Like, it almost had to be an intentional dunk for there to be a leak revealing that Hololive offers cash bonuses sometimes just to stream specific content right after Niji was exposed for barely paying its talents at all. I wouldn't find it disagreeable to say that supporting Nijisanji or its talents in any way is perpetuating straight up abuse of their employees.
 

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Someone a few pages back was looking for Henya falling for the old alt f4 troll. Raildex has us covered


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Hex Haywire, Doppio Dropscythe, Ver Vermillion, Zaion Lanza. All four sound like someone had a stutter and didn't bother to edit the text later.

The first three I can see but I always thought Zaion LanZa sounded like a sick Japanese import car from the '80s. Like, check out this sweet photo of my LanZa I took four months ago and finally got around to getting developed:

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Instead of a pinging noise when the door is ajar, it plays a voice sample of a woman saying "door ajar!" Truly the way of the future!
 

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I think I found the real reason for Shondos schizo meltdown
 
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I mean, she is motivated to be Vtuber due to this vtuber ...



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That kind of explains her mind is pretty fucked up...... :whatastory:

The amount of vshojo and similar in that thread really shows why ENvtubers are bottom of the barrel garbage focused on raunchy humor and twitter brainrot.
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It makes perfect sense for women to become motivated by vtubers like Artemis or some lewdtuber. A good parallel would be with authors/writers. Imagine a person reading LOTR, Dune, maybe even War and Peace (or something of similar caliber). Could it get that person interested in writing? Perhaps, but to many, these books are very intimidating. "How could I ever write something of that level?". Some will constantly compare themselves to the greats and second guess themselves. They will loose their confidence and motivation to write. What if that person instead picked up some trash YA novel. When reading those I often think, I could write that*! Nay I could do better than that! How could this piece of shit sell thousands of copies.
I think the same phenomenon occurs with vtubers. The great singer/ entertainer who can bust out a 72h marathon stream like its nothing, will get you interested into vtubers .The lazy, dead air filled stream of a drugged out tranny will get you motivated enough to become one.

edit *(those written in my native language ofc)
 
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I gotta be real with you man, I haven't watched any hololive or nijisanji in a while and even I have to agree with some of this. Like, it almost had to be an intentional dunk for there to be a leak revealing that Hololive offers cash bonuses sometimes just to stream specific content right after Niji was exposed for barely paying its talents at all. I wouldn't find it disagreeable to say that supporting Nijisanji or its talents in any way is perpetuating straight up abuse of their employees.
Even if it is a fact we arent Hooligans of a Football club to start destroying each other over tribalism man come on Anycolor and Cover even worked together to fight Antis
That demostrates the "maybe we are rivals not ENEMIES" thats why it boils my blood seeing faggy dramatubers and fucking Kson of all people to shit on this like if they had a horse in this race(I wish Anycolor really banished False to the shadow Realm AKA Twitch so he could cry there eternally)
 

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Some people aren't taking Blair Labri's graduation well...:beatanimug::beatanimeds:

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The first three I can see but I always thought Zaion LanZa sounded like a sick Japanese import car from the '80s. Like, check out this sweet photo of my LanZa I took four months ago and finally got around to getting developed:

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Instead of a pinging noise when the door is ajar, it plays a voice sample of a woman saying "door ajar!" Truly the way of the future!

Queue Gura soundbite: "But how can a door be a jar...?"




You totally heard this in her voice
 

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I mean this wirh absolutely no intention of it being bait.

Why are you all so bad at picking Oshi's? Half the girls posted here are barely watchable 2-views who's only redeeming feature is they're so bad they don't draw an audience so they respond to you.
For once you say something (sorta) reasonable, yes the feeling I get is that a lot of people pick 2-views to feel special, it don't feel quite as good when you're fan #2057583 and your oshi barely knows you exist, or she could know you exist but some nigerian oil prince will always have her attention. It's parasocialism eitherway but this way makes people think it's """"""""""""possible""""""""""""" and makes them believe the magic.
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:Fauna-AKSHUALLY:
It makes perfect sense for women to become motivated by vtubers like Artemis or some lewdtuber. A good parallel would be with authors/writers. Imagine a person reading LOTR, Dune, maybe even War and Peace (or something of similar caliber). Could it get that person interested in writing? Perhaps, but to many, these books are very intimidating. "How could I ever write something of that level?". Some will constantly compare themselves to the greats and second guess themselves. They will loose their confidence and motivation to write. What if that person instead picked up some trash YA novel. When reading those I often think, I could write that*! Nay I could do better than that how could this piece of shit sell thousands of copies.
I think the same phenomenon occurs with vtubers. The great singer/ entertainer who can bust out a 72h marathon stream like its nothing, will get you interested into vtubers .The lazy, dead air filled stream of a drugged out tranny will get you motivated enough to become one.

edit *(those written in my native language ofc)
Yeah i thought of this too and it's very obvious, I just hate that it's FUCKING VSHOJO people are taking inspiration from.
 
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It truly boggles my mind that there are people out there that still fall for this trick. It's funny when it happens, but by this point, people should still know though, right?
Please understand, she is a woman.
 

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Een Gevolg

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I gotta be real with you man, I haven't watched any hololive or nijisanji in a while and even I have to agree with some of this. Like, it almost had to be an intentional dunk for there to be a leak revealing that Hololive offers cash bonuses sometimes just to stream specific content right after Niji was exposed for barely paying its talents at all. I wouldn't find it disagreeable to say that supporting Nijisanji or its talents in any way is perpetuating straight up abuse of their employees.
I'm not saying the video is wrong; if anything, I agree with most of the points. Hell, the SEAfag rabbit actually did a decent job keeping the video as objective and neutral as possible, aside from kinda stumbling off the bike and sperging by the end. I just don't like interacting with faggots who have a holier-than-thou attitude just because their team isn't the one having a yab at the moment, and this applies across the board as things change, whether Holo/Niji/PC/indie fans.

Even if it is a fact we arent Hooligans of a Football club to start destroying each other over tribalism man come on Anycolor and Cover even worked together to fight Antis
That demostrates the "maybe we are rivals not ENEMIES" thats why it boils my blood seeing faggy dramatubers and fucking Kson of all people to shit on this like if they had a horse in this race(I wish Anycolor really banished False to the shadow Realm AKA Twitch so he could cry there eternally)

Kson's just pushing her personal agenda, and if that includes being Vshojo's personal lapdog, that's her problem. Dramatubers tend to be cocky cunts pretty inherently, and you can at least kind of see Niji's perspective on this -- to a standard JP management, the train of thought probably goes "EN dramatuber -> dramatuber -> Narukami -> kill on sight". Still, the fact that they just casually did the copyright meme, likely without considering it will make them look like assholes, shows an inherent lack of understanding in the differences between the Western and Eastern environments. They really do need someone on the managerial side who could understand the Western market and community better.
 

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The first three I can see but I always thought Zaion LanZa sounded like a sick Japanese import car from the '80s. Like, check out this sweet photo of my LanZa I took four months ago and finally got around to getting developed:

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Instead of a pinging noise when the door is ajar, it plays a voice sample of a woman saying "door ajar!" Truly the way of the future!
This isn't new:
 

CalciumAnimal

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They really do need someone on the managerial side who could understand the Western market and community better.
They have one they don't listen to him.

this is the same shit that happened to name of game studio here (Saga Square Nintendo ect.) all have done this at least once where the japenese big shots come in assume their mindsets will work over here and suffer for it

Game companies have been slowly getting better about it Nintendo being the noteworthy to start embracing their English branch (my body is reggie) but with how close Vtubers are to the idol industry (something mostly concentrated in Japan) I would not be surprised if Ninjisanji is still treating the English market as subordinate
 

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They have one they don't listen to him.

this is the same shit that happened to name of game studio here (Saga Square Nintendo ect.) all have done this at least once where the japenese big shots come in assume their mindsets will work over here and suffer for it

Game companies have been slowly getting better about it Nintendo being the noteworthy to start embracing their English branch (my body is reggie) but with how close Vtubers are to the idol industry (something mostly concentrated in Japan) I would not be surprised if Ninjisanji is still treating the English market as subordinate
Do they actually, though? Isn't at least the massive majority of Niji's management (even EN) inherently Japanese? I'm not aware of their corporate structure (stop the presses), but part of the reason for the KR/ID merge was so that they report directly to the JP management as leaving KR to do its own thing ended up being a shitshow, wasn't it? The only manager that I'm pretty sure is known probably not to be inherently JP is Noor, and who knows whether she/they're still in the company.
 
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