I imagine the risk is it flops hard if you don't have the audience reach for it. But doing donation events now is a pretty smart way to take the edge off the growth phase, since you can bank that cash to live off and don't have to think about doing sellout content that narrows your audience. Seeing it driven by the corpo itself is the surprising part to me.With Yuko's 48 hours donothon finally over, the whole thing has been an impressive success for her!
She made almost 15k subs as she went from 35.8k (same ballpark as the other E-Sekai girls, but already the most subbed of them) before, to currently 50.3k.
If playboard.co is to be believed she made in her previous 2 months of activity about 10k in superchats. I'm not the most frequent idol corp watcher, but I guess they promote quite a bit the option to donate via non-youtube ways, so let's be generous and assume another 10k from all other forms of income.
So she had made an assumed 20k in 2 months.
Now the stream donation tracker's final tally was $34,111. (Fun fact: the top 10 donors listed on stream alone add up to $22,252) She made more than 150% of her previous total revenue in these 48 hours.
In 3 Days we will see Rin's take on the format.
Like already mentioned by others, I also see this happen a few more times until audience willingness to donate will burn out.
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There's still a possibility this goes the way of early Phase Connect combined with UwUtv. As in, the money Aviel is throwing at his talents starts drying up, his managers aren't up to snuff, and then the first bigger yab that hits implodes the company. Yeah, IdolEN is doing retardedly well, but they've only been around for about two months and are probably in the honeymoon phase, we haven't hit the burnout, internal disagreements, and "ah shit Yamanba why did I decide to run a company full of mid 20s women" phase yet.Honestly I'm mostly surprised that Aviel somewhat business savvy. I remember when Idolcorp was first announced people traced his last ventures and they were literal nothing techbro marketing bullshit.
I found clips and archives of Rye stuff on bilibili of all places, with Chinese subtitles.I have to imagine what Phase Yuko would look like. I didn't watch her as Rye so I don't know how much of her current presentation was part of her personality before vs how much has been fit to the character.
People have been saying that the bubble would pop ever since the end of 2020 (i cannot count the amount of times people would doompost about it on the homeland), and here we are 2 years in and the only decline there has been is due to normies having to go back to work after the pandemic ended. Vtubing IS saturated but it's also a really niche thing still, i think there is still a big potential audience that has not been tapped into.For everyone talking about oversaturation of the vtuber market, I have a diagram of the industry life cycle that might be of interest.
Obviously only a generalization of how markets works.
So what part of the diagram do you all think we're on? I'd say we're somewhere in the shake-out part of the cycle - there's intense competition (are you a vtuber fan? name all the corpos) and declining profitability with several corpos recently failing, but we haven't had much in the way of industry consolidation or slowing of growth, and the major three are still growing, at least somewhat.
Interested to hear what other people think though.
It was honestly nuts watching it all unfold. I thought the /vt/ anons talking about whale conspiracies were LARPing but they went even harder than they indicated. Within about a 4 hour block between leaving for work and checking on progress she had made several thousand more dollars.With Yuko's 48 hours donothon finally over, the whole thing has been an impressive success for her!
She made almost 15k subs as she went from 35.8k (same ballpark as the other E-Sekai girls, but already the most subbed of them) before, to currently 50.3k.
If playboard.co is to be believed she made in her previous 2 months of activity about 10k in superchats. I'm not the most frequent idol corp watcher, but I guess they promote quite a bit the option to donate via non-youtube ways, so let's be generous and assume another 10k from all other forms of income.
So she had made an assumed 20k in 2 months.
Now the stream donation tracker's final tally was $34,111. (Fun fact: the top 10 donors listed on stream alone add up to $22,252) She made more than 150% of her previous total revenue in these 48 hours.
In 3 Days we will see Rin's take on the format.
Like already mentioned by others, I also see this happen a few more times until audience willingness to donate will burn out.
Her past life was Mai Melody: Youtube | TwitchWhile I usually believe corporations when shit like this happens (in the case of an instant termination) often there is more to it than just that.
This is pretty huge. Aside from Nene, she was their top talent when it comes to donations and CCV. Aletta passed her in subs but not in CCV. I also listened to her last stream. Weird how she's just gone, like that. Given her success, I would expect her to pop up as an indie (do we even know who her past life was?). I am a bit curious as to what exactly was she saying. Additionally one of the sentences made it look like she was also interacting with people she shouldn't be interacting with. Wonder if she pulled a Vera Vee.
What is it with pink women and loving swastikas?"Ooh, look at that cool graffiti!" turns to look at it, it's a swastika (I think)
Given how Cover started out and what it is still trying to do (with debatable success at best), there's an argument to be made that techbros with literally nothing are the best possible base for a chuuba corp.Honestly I'm mostly surprised that Aviel somewhat business savvy. I remember when Idolcorp was first announced people traced his last ventures and they were literal nothing techbro marketing bullshit.
IDK if it's a made up memory, but reminds me of when gura used Pirate Speak as menu language in MC wayyy back.Rin got her new PC, but what has she done to minecraft?
"So, when I'm getting tested whether I'm a bot or not, I know I'm not a bot, so I want them to double test me to really be sure that I'm not a bot. Y'know what I mean?" The most hinged member of guild tempus, everyone.
To expand on the "no collab" thing. He explained he's drained his social battery and that he had experienced the same thing in college and he "recovered" in roughly 2 months.Unhinged as always and he loves Neuro-Sama, it s good to have Vesper back in a kind of "stable" state. I think he mentioned no collab around when he mention Neuro-Sama so I guess he is still full of anxiety.
Edit: ASMR digging a hole...
fuck, that was you? I was listening vesper in the background and you really threw him for a loop there. IDK if he really got an autismo moment or if he was thinking how to use that comment for content.I'm taking credit for my "Vesper, are you sure you aren't a replicant" comment stunlocking him enough to go full into this tangent.
What's up with bug eating lately? shiina just mentioned the same thing in the opening part of her streamAll the e-sekai girls are currently describing bug eating...
Is this it? Is that what it has come to, Klaus? Because I still won't eat the bugs no matter how many waifus you throw at me.
With WACTOR imploding, I wonder if Cover will take Coco's earlier suggestion to build a HoloES branch and possibly fill it with ex-WACTOR talents. It would fit the Yagoo meme of him saving talents from irrelevancy, plus the market is wide open now. Speaking of WACTOR, I know some of you guys don't like False, but I think he made a decent summary of the situation for you guys who don't understand Spanish.
It's not that long. I won't say it to shiina's face, but she's pretty bad at it.Almost time for Shiina to play FF7remake! I keep thinking it's almost over because I though it was supposed to be a short a game, but I guess I'm retarded and it's a long ass game.
Low key amazed at Yuko's growth and performance. I've never watched Rye and the first time I've heard about her was when Pippa participated on her last stream before going on hiatus.With Yuko's 48 hours donothon finally over, the whole thing has been an impressive success for her!
She made almost 15k subs as she went from 35.8k (same ballpark as the other E-Sekai girls, but already the most subbed of them) before, to currently 50.3k.
If playboard.co is to be believed she made in her previous 2 months of activity about 10k in superchats. I'm not the most frequent idol corp watcher, but I guess they promote quite a bit the option to donate via non-youtube ways, so let's be generous and assume another 10k from all other forms of income.
So she had made an assumed 20k in 2 months.
Now the stream donation tracker's final tally was $34,111. (Fun fact: the top 10 donors listed on stream alone add up to $22,252) She made more than 150% of her previous total revenue in these 48 hours.
In 3 Days we will see Rin's take on the format.
Like already mentioned by others, I also see this happen a few more times until audience willingness to donate will burn out.
Going by this graph, I'd say we're entering in the mature stage. The big hitters are entering a plateau, and Idol-EN feels like will be the last "big" small corpo.For everyone talking about oversaturation of the vtuber market, I have a diagram of the industry life cycle that might be of interest.
Obviously only a generalization of how markets works.
So what part of the diagram do you all think we're on? I'd say we're somewhere in the shake-out part of the cycle - there's intense competition (are you a vtuber fan? name all the corpos) and declining profitability with several corpos recently failing, but we haven't had much in the way of industry consolidation or slowing of growth, and the major three are still growing, at least somewhat.
Interested to hear what other people think though.
Unrelated to the previous comment, but my GOD are these two something else. I think Bettel misspelled geniuses in the title.
In Shiinas case it wouldn't surprise me if watching Yukos stream put the thought in her head, I know she watches her as she popped up in chat a few times before and I think still even has mod privs. I'm sure she was watching the donothon, lurking in our midst.What's up with bug eating lately? shiina just mentioned the same thing in the opening part of her stream