General Vtuber Discussion (V1)

[Superduper Samurai]

The problem of course is that he showed up for the collab with the girls to 22k+ people under the exact same circumstances so every excuse he makes just doesn't land for me. He showed up and saw that one through but suddenly he's too anxious to let his genmates know he can't make a collab? Uhhh...

Wasnt the monopoly collab 100% online though?

My personal rrat is that he tarded out on eating the shitty burgers and that piled on with all of his other shit (catching up on 2 weeks worth of work, no meds) and just didnt want to tack on an off-collab with staff present


Or hes just retarded, but unless he gets bonked im sure people will stop giving a fuck, people mentioned the times Mori has missed some shit but honestly alot of the carebear fanbase doesnt care about that as far as ive seen

 

[El Rrata]

I am probably overstepping my bounds having an opinion of someone I don't watch or really vibe with but I really must question how hard it would've been to hop in the group chat at any point to say 'Hey guys. I left my meds at home because I was worried customs would seize them on the way into Japan. I'm sorry, but this means if anything happens to my anxiety while I'm here I'm kinda fucked so I'm going to be as low-key as possible until I get back. Please don't expect me to show up for the collabs.'

The problem of course is that he showed up for the collab with the girls to 22k+ people under the exact same circumstances so every excuse he makes just doesn't land for me. He showed up and saw that one through but suddenly he's too anxious to let his genmates know he can't make a collab? Uhhh...

No, you aren't wrong. The situation is very straightforward, exactly how you described it. It really is not a good look. A little communication goes a long way. It is the same with Gura being MIA so long without saying anything. You compare that with Ina, who had properly announced her break and it is night and day. People are far more willing to have patience when asked to, even if no specific reason is given.

 

[Kalion]

Tomoya of Tsunderia has decided to suddenly take a two week break.
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[vestars20]

Cute li'l JP 2view panda VTuber. Figured it was worth sharing.

That is stupidly cute.

This is my opinion I think what he is doing is very unprofessional.

Hard to know what being professional is in the world of vtubers.

I generally have an optimistic look at this kind of thing and am more inclined to believe it's nothing big. But he's my favorite of Tempus and so were Sana, Aloe, and Coco.

Yeah, my HoloEN initial favs haven't worked out: Calli's ADHD got me out of synch, Sana left me with abandonment issues and now Vesper feels like he is taking his ball and going home. Shinri, don't hurt me.

Something to take your mind off things

 

[Scuddle]

Hard to know what being professional is in the world of vtubers.

True. Especially in the absence of consequence.

I'd like to think that, much like any workplace, severely inconveniencing your colleagues should at least be perceived as unprofessional, but I wouldn't trust the community to do anything but minimise everything out of fear holding them responsible will lead to graduation.

 

[Belle Delphine's Armpit]

Ollie sang a song about being out of toilet paper, in the bathroom:

 

[Marlow]

True. Especially in the absence of consequence.

I'd like to think that, much like any workplace, severely inconveniencing your colleagues should at least be perceived as unprofessional, but I wouldn't trust the community to do anything but minimise everything out of fear holding them responsible will lead to graduation.

It depends on the type of contract that the talent is under. If you have a quota for a number of collaborations that are organized by management, then refusing to participate is a big deal - the contract might even stipulate monetary penalties/fees for this type of breach of contract.

I don't know if hololive contracts have been leaked - but, I imagine a company like that operates under letting talent choose any and all collaborations that they wish to participate in. And, in that case there is nothing wrong in exercising that right and not participating in collaborations that are inconvenient for one reason or another. These reasons could be petty or even silly like - "I drank too much last night" or even "I didn't get enough sleep and would like to sleep in". I imagine all of them are talking to each other on discord privately and are aware of the actual reason for the absence. The seriousness, or lack of it, when it comes to the reasons to not participate are almost always a reflection of the attitudes prevalent in the work environment.

What leads to toxic work environment is placing a social obligation on co-workers that are not stipulated in the contract. If the company needs its talent to always be there to promote new talent or to celebrate their anniversaries, including six-months, then that should be accomplished via contractual obligations rather then peer pressure.

 

[SoundWave Superior]

So I know a few others in here occasionally watch Avi as well in here, this is about her stepdad, guy once out of spite cut her internet cables which she at the time was paying for. vtubers and bad home lives like a rule this point.

 

[God's Strongest Mozumite]

Sava is live with more Harvester

 

[Nenélove]

I don't think vesper missing events is such a huge deal, i certainly wouldn't call it "unprofessional"
My lax attitude mainly hinges in that this is HIS and the other boys' 6 month anniversary, which wasn't that big of an event anyway. Even so the person most inconvenienced by this is himself, the others got along just fine without him. Imagine being blamed for not celebrating your own birthday.

If he had walked out on a planned collab with another talent, specially one from another agency or on a concert that has been planned for months then yeah, pretty unprofessional. This just strikes me as a mild annoyance, in any case it's not up to us to decide if what he's doing is wrong or not, there might be circumstances we don't know about, if he truly did something wrong then he will be scolded by management or suspended.

 

[lakyus]

Spidor of Seasons

 

[El Rrata]

I don't think vesper missing events is such a huge deal, i certainly wouldn't call it "unprofessional"
My lax attitude mainly hinges in that this is HIS and the other boys' 6 month anniversary, which wasn't that big of an event anyway. Even so the person most inconvenienced by this is himself, the others got along just fine without him. Imagine being blamed for not celebrating your own birthday.

If he had walked out on a planned collab with another talent, specially one from another agency or on a concert that has been planned for months then yeah, pretty unprofessional. This just strikes me as a mild annoyance, in any case it's not up to us to decide if what he's doing is wrong or not, there might be circumstances we don't know about, if he truly did something wrong then he will be scolded by management or suspended.

Vesper also has a fulltime job, unless something has changed IDK about or I am misremembering. Taking a whole month off work while in Japan seems unlikely. Is it possible he has had to a really weird hours for that remotely and that has screwed with everything more?

I could be talking out of my ass, though.

 

[Simp]

The least parasocial Holo is back home.
Also shedule is out and seems she is the first Holo to stream Fire Emblem Engage


BTW she takes some nices pictures like this Haachama/Ame/Kiara one


or like this. Maybe it is just because i am a SIMP but man is it pretty.

 

[RhoasJonas]

Also shedule is out and seems she is the first Holo to stream Fire Emblem Engage

Did she never finish Arise?

 

[kestraline]

Anyone archived it? We are losing the cause of lia menhera episode

Full VOD: https://gofile.io/d/KbShHG around 4hrs 58m for the male on stream

Male on stream: https://files.catbox.moe/fhwjok.mp4

 

[Kazuma]

On EN gen 3 I think I remember either right before or right after Council had debuted that Irys said that she's not sure if there will be a gen 3.

 

[Kalion]

I have no way to know if this is real or not, but I've seen multiple people claim to have gotten a tweet notification for former Tsunderia manager Umiushi Urara only to find it already deleted when they clicked on it. One user claims to have captured a screenshot of the notification.

 

[Simp]

Did she never finish Arise?

No, she said she would multiple time but never did. Well it is for the better in the end because now she can stream it.

 

[lakyus]

Meanwhile, Tsunderia general's buckoanons are discussing how latest Tsunderia news is affecting Amiya:

 

[Aliepheese]

The least parasocial Holo is back home.
Also shedule is out and seems she is the first Holo to stream Fire Emblem Engage

First of the Girls at least Tenma (Holostars Tenma) started playing yesterday I think

Did she never finish Arise?

No, she said she would multiple time but never did. Well it is for the better in the end because now she can stream it.

Originally she didnt have permissions to stream the end of the game so she stopped and said she would finish it off stream, she tweeted twice she was gonna attempt to sit down and finish it finally but the first time she accidently walked into a post game dungeon and spends all her play time getting out instead of finishing the story the second time she tweeted she was gonna try and finish it someone told her Bamco had lifted the streaming restriction, so she may be able to stream it, so she decided to hold off to confirm if she could indeed stream the ending now.

Edit:

News from CEO of Kosher Agency
Tweet:

A letter from the CEO regarding idol Origin — idol

Hello dear friends of idol, especially to our ever-loyal fans and to the VTubing community: 2022 has been a wild year for us at idol: from the time we debuted our idolHE generation to the recent idol E-Sekai unit, the...

idol-company.com

Well this kind of has me wondering....does this mean Neo and the loli are going to be coming back at some point? Or does this mean they will be having new "voices"? Or just a total rebranding with nothing really changing but maybe having more advertising for the originals.

Reading the whole letter it seems that the current girls are getting a redebut as "EN" members and leaving behind the HE branding, I dont thinks the 2 gradauted girls are coming back since he made a clear point their graduation was due to "creative differences".

Honestly pretty smart, feels a lot of other corpos wouldn't dare doing something like this since most do not like to ackolege when one branch is doing much better that the other, but honestly Idol is blowing out right now but the HE girls miss all of the hype and are being nerf by their branding the same way HoloID was back before/Shortly after EN debut, I remember everyone going around like "you know if you want english speaking Holos the ID girls are right there" but most people would just see the ID in their name and not even bother, obviously now Id has their fanbase and branding but a simple 2 letter in your name can really kill your growth.