General Vtuber Discussion (V1)

[Realticule]

"Drawing is less than minimum wage" - Shiina. Sounds like fish fuck used her as a slave as @Punished Anime Discusser speculated.

Edit: Shiina confirms she's mad at Fish.

"If Sakana was a girl, she would be the most unattractive girl" - Shiina.

Uraka claims, and the others confirm, Sakana is upset about all the girl talk in the office. Nigga, what do you think will happen if you have only female employees?

 

[The Peanut Gallery]

"Drawing is less than minimum wage" - Shiina. Sounds like fish fuck used her as a slave as @Punished Anime Discusser speculated.

It can be. You gotta either be really damn good or willing to draw furry degeneracy and/or rich women with wonderbread.

 

[Spergatory]

Sakana at this point is just gonna put a company wide ban on drinking on stream.
Menhera + alcohol = extreme menhera

 

[Titanosaurus]

Well, this has certainly been the most interesting Pokémon stream so far. I hope someone archives it because I'm going to sleep. Drunk Shiina is very interesting but I hope she doesn't cause herself any problems or embarrassment.

 

[Azehara]

I don't normally support Susan being a baren Karen but anything that makes Nux shut up for five seconds is good with me.

As much as I dislike Nux's content, I would rather not have retards on Twitter dictate what content stays up or not due to mass reporting it.

Apparently Shiina is too qualified to work as a barista, oof. One big reason to dislike Musk is Meemaw's experience working there....

Slept under desk at work before etc., didn't get her anywhere, made a comment about not sleeping with a super and thus no promotion, uuuuuhhhh, totally getting a vod nuke here.

Meemaw LOVE

I doubt Musk was the problem and it was more of her manager especially given how she mentions that the guy wanted to fuck her to give her a promotion. VOD has been nuked since about hour 3.

"Drawing is less than minimum wage" - Shiina. Sounds like fish fuck used her as a slave as @Punished Anime Discusser speculated.

I'm raging a bit after hearing her say this. She is an amazing artist but she doesn't know how to market herself. As someone in chat said, Furry porn is a goldmine. If not just draw whatever. I have seen dogshit artists charge $200 for a poorly drawn, poorly colored drawing and their commissions being full. Shiina can charge $75 for black and white sketch-like drawings that could take her 2 hours at most to make. Hell, she could talk to Sakana about letting her do commission work using her Vtuber account to promote herself so that she can sign the art with her Vtuber name.

That might bring some issues in case someone is not happy with the work but I feel like many of the fans and other people in the Vtuber community would love to have a sketch by her. Basically, it's personalized merch. Shiina original sketch for $75-$100 would be better merch than a random keychain or acrylic stand. Or to avoid issues with people not being satisfied with the art, she could just make the art upfront, and people buy what they want. Anything beats working at FUCKING STARBUCKS for minimum wage 4 hours a day dealing with shitheads.

 

[Realticule]

she doesn't know how to market herself.

That's the issue with the majority of business. There's not such thing as a product that sells itself.

Basically, it's personalized merch. Shiina original sketch for $75-$100 would be better merch than a random keychain or acrylic stand.

I hadn't thought of this, but that's amazing. You could even make it a holiday special thing and probably sell it for way more, there's an insane possible premium for personalized merch in the world of mass produced products. Hell, putting a serial number on cards in popular card games is enough to drive shit through the roof and misprints are insanely valuable.

Just shows how much the fish squanders his talent's abilities.

 

[GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR]

I have seen dogshit artists charge $200 for a poorly drawn, poorly colored drawing and their commissions being full. Shiina can charge $75 for black and white sketch-like drawings that could take her 2 hours at most to make. Hell, she could talk to Sakana about letting her do commission work using her Vtuber account to promote herself so that she can sign the art with her Vtuber name.

Thats the thing, artists, and esp menhera artists, DO NOT WANT TO DRAW FOR MONEY. Reasons being:
1) fear of burning out
2) fear of artist block hitting
3) fear of underperforming on a comission, dissapointing the customer
4) fear of not being able to complete a comission in time and having to explain that to the customer
5) fear of the customers themselves
6) not feeling that they are good enough to draw for money and, as you said, not knowing how to market themselves
src: been friends with many artists, having artist relatives

Just shows how much the fish squanders his talent's abilities.

bitch has no imagination. Asian parents beat it out of him when he was a wee baby and league of legends lasthit anything he had inside his head. He cant come up with inventive shit so the only ones left thinking are talents and ONE manager.

 

[Spergatory]

I doubt Musk was the problem and it was more of her manager especially given how she mentions that the guy wanted to fuck her to give her a promotion. VOD has been nuked since about hour 3.

It don't know what level she was at for her job, but it would be pretty crazy and honestly not that hard to believe that Musk went around acting like a horndog flirting with female employees. Then again with a guy like Musk that would be big news for sure, so who fucking knows. Either way it's shitty that Shiina had to go through that at her job, I can see how that would put you off on wanting a career like that again in the future.

 

[The Peanut Gallery]

That's the issue with the majority of business. There's not such thing as a product that sells itself.


I hadn't thought of this, but that's amazing. You could even make it a holiday special thing and probably sell it for way more, there's an insane possible premium for personalized merch in the world of mass produced products. Hell, putting a serial number on cards in popular card games is enough to drive shit through the rough and misprints are insanely valuable.

Just shows how much the fish squanders his talent's abilities.

I don't have the time to keep up with all the phase girls, but do any of do draw streams? She could do draw streams and commisions on stream for content. Plus if she draws irl she could put her drawings up on etsy or ebay and make money that way.

Thats the thing, artists, and esp menhera artists, DO NOT WANT TO DRAW FOR MONEY. Reasons being:
1) fear of burning out
2) fear of artist block hitting
3) fear of underperforming on a comission, dissapointing the customer
4) fear of not being able to complete a comission in time and having to explain that to the customer
5) fear of the customers themselves
6) not feeling that they are good enough to draw for money and, as you said, not knowing how to market themselves
src: been friends with many artists, having artist relatives

I don't fully get it either. I could understand if you were just starting out, but even then if someone offered to pay me for a piece I did wouldn't just reject it.

 

[Realticule]

Plus if she draws irl she could put her drawings up on etsy or ebay and make money that way.

I don't know if any of them do draw streams, but those would be fun. Though really they could even just sell them on the Phase site as they have an audience now and it would drive traffic to other merch and even talent, but their site kind of really sucks.

 

[The Peanut Gallery]

Shiina and Airi finally went to bed, leaving just Uruka

 

[RestlessRain]

I don't know if any of them do draw streams, but those would be fun. Though really they could even just sell them on the Phase site as they have an audience now and it would drive traffic to other merch and even talent, but their site kind of really sucks.

Shiina does drawing streams - a mix of practice sketching (she feels like her skills have dropped off) and painting. She's a great artist but really lacks confidence.

What she should do is hold an art auction stream. She puts up some pieces that she's drawn/painted IRL and sells them to the highest bidder. I know a group of online artists that do this once every three months and it's a decent earner for them. Combine it with streaming the creation of the art pieces and also make it content for her channel.

 

[GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR]

cool ideas friends!
assuming yaal dont just speak into the void. We need nolan to bring meemaw here

 

[AO Cody]

Probably wouldn't hurt to drop a few of these suggestions into some superchats on her streams.

 

[Svarog]

Hologra with cute Chloe's noises ^_^


And another news. Crazy mold baby Wemi, finished new pokemon game in one non stop stream.

Spoiler: vods

Mumei and balloon

 

[The Peanut Gallery]

cool ideas friends!
assuming yaal dont just speak into the void. We need nolan to bring meemaw here

She may not namefag or post on 4chan but i'm sure she still lurks after all

And I know this placed has been named dropped at least once on /pcg/.
Someone should send her a marrow even though she's backed up.

 

[Cptn Snshn]

Who would win in a fight, Stink Orca or Mold Bunny?

 

[The Peanut Gallery]

Who would win in a fight, Stink Orca or Mold Bunny?

The mold. If I learned anything from 40k it's that when you kill Orkz, yoy gotta glass the planet ot else they'll just grow back.

 

[Shuba]

Subaru's 4th anniversary live starts in 5 minutes!

 

[RestlessRain]

cool ideas friends!
assuming yaal dont just speak into the void. We need nolan to bring meemaw here

My suggestion for merchandise - a Phase Connect calendar. I've seen calendars work elsewhere as merchandise, especially when there are large pictures of a cute woman involved. There's no reason the same thing wouldn't work when it involves cute anime women instead. Calendars are also easy to make and cheap to ship as far as merchandise goes. It's too late to do anything but a basic calendar with artwork for 2023 - I'm sure the Fish could make it work when money is involved - but they could get the work underway for a quality 2024 calendar and have plenty of time to commission new art.

Where Shiina would come into it is to have her get paid for a few commissions for the calendar. Shiina does the art in real life for the calendar. Have some of the characters in different poses, different outfits or with different background, a few different group shots, whatever. Maybe include one or two slightly yabai art pieces, like beach or hotspring outfits. After the calendar gets launched, Shiina can then sell some of the original art for the calendar, and she and the other sadgirls can split their portion of the revenue from the calendar sales.

Anyway, I think it's a good idea that could make them all some money.