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Thomas Talus

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I don't remember her name but there is another Taiwanese piano playing youtuber who hasn't gotten this bad with coombaiting, yet.
Ru's Piano?
 

Sithis

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Yuko you degenerate you're ruining their immersion!
 

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bothyourhouses

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I'm sure there's JAV out there that involves whores playing piano or something like that that you'd get more out of.
Not piano but there's one of a violinist who supposedly makes a Faustian bargain with the porn company so that she can fulfill her dream of playing a solo concert on stage (and Zenra did English subs for it). I enjoyed it.
 

Hff201

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Yuko you degenerate you're ruining their immersion!
If she could stick to the tasteful thigh pics and lay off the piss stuff I'd be perfectly fine with that.

Not piano but there's one of a violinist who supposedly makes a Faustian bargain with the porn company so that she can fulfill her dream of playing a solo concert on stage (and Zenra did English subs for it). I enjoyed it.
This sounds like one of the more normal JAV storylines out there.

EDIT: What's going on here?
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Brosnan Pierce Brosnan

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Hff201

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Over the past couple of weeks she has gotten turbo horny out of seemingly nowhere and has amped up the parasocial stuff by 400%. And I don't think its a bit either
How far are we in on this arc right now? Some of the wording there feels like the kind of thing I'd read in leaked DM logs after a streamer/fan sex scandal, except it's in her stream chat for some reason.
 

Brosnan Pierce Brosnan

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How far are we in on this arc right now? Some of the wording there feels like the kind of thing I'd read in leaked DM logs after a streamer/fan sex scandal, except it's in her stream chat for some reason.
She had a member stream a couple weeks ago where she said that she was uncontrollably horny. The next member stream she said she whacked it off thinking about chat (then she deleted that vod), next up she said that felt she was getting too parasocial and didn't want to hurt chat or herself. Then she spent time working on her birthday stuff, and I guess this is where we are at now.
 

Sithis

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If she could stick to the tasteful thigh pics and lay off the piss stuff I'd be perfectly fine with that.


This sounds like one of the more normal JAV storylines out there.

EDIT: What's going on here?
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I wonder if the not showering thing is a bit or a psychological defense to keep people away from her so she doesn't get fucked with again?
 

Hff201

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She had a member stream a couple weeks ago where she said that she was uncontrollably horny. The next member stream she said she whacked it off thinking about chat (then she deleted that vod), next up she said that felt she was getting too parasocial and didn't want to hurt chat or herself. Then she spent time working on her birthday stuff, and I guess this is where we are at now.
This sounds like a problem waiting to happen, especially since (to my understanding?) her corpo's more of an informal thing with the other ex-Kawaii girls so there's not really any managers above her with a duty of care.

The thing is I can genuinely see how this happens, since the combination of a high libido, constant attention from the preferred sex, but no action is something people aren't really psychologically built for - but that being said, if the sexes were flipped and it were a male streamer openly and unapologetically lusting over girls in his chat like this (outside of an obvious RP thing like what the nijifags do) it'd come off as creepy, acting as a deterrent to stop it from going too far.

I don't know, it sounds like she knows it's a bad idea to engage with her chat like this but enjoys it too much to shut it down properly. She needs to decide where the boundary should be and draw a firm line in the sand sooner rather than later, before someone takes advantage of her.

I wonder if the not showering thing is a bit or a psychological defense to keep people away from her so she doesn't get fucked with again?
Not showering means nothing in this community, since the awful smell just makes it more exciting for a lot of them.
 

Sithis

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Abomination

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Happy 100 pages of vtuber degeneracy!

As for the Mozu stuff, call me naive or optimistic, but I'm willing to believe that this recent behavior is more out of loneliness/sexual frustration rather than coombaiting. It's still degenerate, but it definitely seems more like venting and a possible cry for help or something. Unfortunately, turning to her chat isn't the best way to handle these things. Granted, it might help a bit with her loneliness, but there's only so much it can help before it either isn't enough or it gets into dangerous territory, like @Hff201 said. Definitely one of the downsides of not having a job to physically go to as an introvert. As an introvert myself, much of my social interaction comes from being at work.

I don't watch her, nor know much about her because she's completely filtered me out from watching her, but judging by what people post of her here from time-to-time, she seems nice. So, I hope she can find a healthy outlet for her loneliness and other problems. Best of luck to her.
 

niggaphil

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Hff201

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As for the Mozu stuff, call me naive or optimistic, but I'm willing to believe that this recent behavior is more out of loneliness/sexual frustration rather than coombaiting.
This is the biggest part of the problem, really - it's not just one-way coombaiting to appeal to an audience; she's getting sexual gratification from it too. While I have mixed opinions on sexually explicit content in vtubing overall, at the very least the Twitch whores etc. are aware what they are doing is an act, and are therefore more inclined to push back against viewers who make actual sexual advances toward them. It's harder for a streamer who is at least on some level enjoying it to do that.
 

BlueSharkTV

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so can't mozu like, you know, stop eating weird shit, shower and stop living like an animal, go outside and get a boyfriend? or does she want a relationship without the dude existing? i just hope she doesn't end up being rushia 2.0 but with a real fan "meet & greet" to make things worse.
 

GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR

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Over the past couple of weeks she has gotten turbo horny out of seemingly nowhere and has amped up the parasocial stuff by 400%. And I don't think its a bit either
Do male hookers exist? I know male strippers do. If her concern is that she isnt getting fucked then theres that, if she seeks a meaningful relationship then you cant really do that online, so i dont know whats really the problem here
 

Paladin

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Do male hookers exist? I know male strippers do. If her concern is that she isnt getting fucked then theres that, if she seeks a meaningful relationship then you cant really do that online, so i dont know whats really the problem here
The problem with that is that she seems to be very conservative on that front, believing that sex should only come after marriage; though Im not sure if that's just cope to deal stave off her loneliness. Given the evidence, I believe this is more of a loneliness issue rather than an attempt at being a :WHORE!!!: for views. This kind of reminds me of Shiina when she was going through that massive rough patch a while back.
 

GOD'S STRONGEST BUILDERBEAR

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The problem with that is that she seems to be very conservative on that front, believing that sex should only come after marriage; though Im not sure if that's just cope to deal stave off her loneliness. Given the evidence, I believe this is more of a loneliness issue rather than an attempt at being a :WHORE!!!: for views. This kind of reminds me of Shiina when she was going through that massive rough patch a while back.
Femcel is still a foreign concept to me please understand, but like, cant she go to the church/bar/clarinet club/fucking whatever and hook up with a dude?

Religious people look down upon hooking up
Okay but not like "hook up" hook up but more like "heres a dude i like maybe we can get a coffee after church on the way home" kinda hookup
 

Brosnan Pierce Brosnan

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Femcel is still a foreign concept to me please understand, but like, cant she go to the church/bar/clarinet club/fucking whatever and hook up with a dude?
Religious people look down upon hooking up

EDIT: Its also a bit of a personal thing as her sister has hooked up with hundreds of dudes as Mozzu has put it and complains about "Not finding a man long term"

Okay but not like "hook up" hook up but more like "heres a dude i like maybe we can get a coffee after church on the way home" kinda hookup
Well thats the thing, like she alternates on streams of appearing well put together mentally, however the piss and soap streams would indicate otherwise. She has also told chat before that she is mental and also she has a complex about her looks. Her parents were also apparently quite old when they had her, but again without knowing more there could be some definite mental hangups when it comes to her and socializing.
 

Hff201

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so can't mozu like, you know, stop eating weird shit, shower and stop living like an animal, go outside and get a boyfriend? or does she want a relationship without the dude existing? i just hope she doesn't end up being rushia 2.0 but with a real fan "meet & greet" to make things worse.
Do male hookers exist? I know male strippers do. If her concern is that she isnt getting fucked then theres that, if she seeks a meaningful relationship then you cant really do that online, so i dont know whats really the problem here
I don't know enough about her personality to say for sure, but I get the feeling that a lot of women who act this way are scared to leave their comfort zone for one reason or another. Unless they're either grotesquely disfigured or are the most insufferable bitch alive I think most women could find a partner if they truly wanted to, but that would require cleaning up their mold dungeon, taking a shower, and approaching a social situation head on - which feels like an intimidating first step, especially if they're already shy or have become accustomed to living like a slob for a long time to begin with.

This kind of online oversharing/solicitation etc. is what happens when people like this want a temporary outlet rather than dealing with the work and commitment that it takes to establish a romantic relationship. I'm probably an outlier in this community in that in most situations I don't really care what intimate conversations people may or may not be having in the DMs, but a female streamer in a community full of schizophrenics and borderline/all-but-confirmed sex offenders is putting both their safety and their career at risk by engaging with fans in that manner. The Mozu posts I shared earlier seem especially risky since it's such a public admission - she's announcing a vulnerability to her audience, and there's nothing to stop bad actors from using it to get closer to her.
 

Paladin

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Femcel is still a foreign concept to me please understand, but like, cant she go to the church/bar/clarinet club/fucking whatever and hook up with a dude?


Okay but not like "hook up" hook up but more like "heres a dude i like maybe we can get a coffee after church on the way home" kinda hookup
I don't think is a sex thing rather I think it's from a lack of contact with men in general giving her a warped view of relationships with the other sex.
 
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