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Azehara said:

Not saying to trust me as im just some retard rrating but its fucking dumb to trust talents when time and time again talents have lied about the state of things.

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Shit nigga, gues Dokibird and Sayu were lying about everything, and they just dramatically left cause Riku wouldn't fuck them 17 times a day. Oh wait no, trusting those two gets you more little red hearts on twitter, doesn't it?

Azehara vtweeted so much it ruined what was left of his brain. We got our own Binted now, the HRT is a matter of time.

shipmate said:

Azehara vtweeted so much it ruined what was left of his brain. We got our own Binted now, the HRT is a matter of time.

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Gonna end up in one of those:
"Man Vtweets for 10 years, this is what happened to his braincells"

Last Of The Mohicans said:

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Welp, one more for the pile.

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"never doing fansly or onlyfans just wanted to hear opinions of the community"
Yeah, sure, I'll be back laughing at her in a couple months when she announces her Fansly.

Edit: Also, archive your shit, Nïgger.
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Azehara said:

Not saying to trust me as im just some retard rrating but its fucking dumb to trust talents when time and time again talents have lied about the state of things. Im amazed how you are part of this forum and you dont seem to ever question the talents when time and time again they have proven to either not fully know what is happening or they try to calm things down to calm people down despite things not being as fine as they project.

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Azehara said:

Talents lie all the time. How many times have you seen that get posted here talking about things being great and fun and suddenly they hit you with a graduation 1 month down the line because the corporation has been harassing and abusing them? Its not about "who hurt you" and more about "this shit has happened so much that it should be the norm" unless proven otherwise.

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If you could point out to an exact statement where they've completely lied and not just people who were being conservative about their own status and that it could go either way, that would be great. This also cant account for things changing for better or worse in determined periods of time. (i.e Fauna)
Dealing in extreme absolutes when talking about people and companies is stupid, for all we know, it could all change for the best or worse at the drop of a hat in current year due to how unstable Vtubing and the world is. There are too many retarded variables within both company and talent and it all gets lumped into a single retardation of either mismanagement (possible) or shareholders (very retarded) because people want an easy answer to a retardedly complicated question.

I dont think you can even point to an individual cause, talent has said this, if you dont want to believe it its fine, but you're calling the talent or company a liar, and it could always go either way. We dont actually have any proof of either so far in spite of numerous departures, both amicable and not, so jumping to extremes is just rarted

It's very simple, my talents are and your talents are

Brosnan Pierce Brosnan said:

I read this as "unfortunately"

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Someone has to make the ultimate sacrifice.

VSoyBoy said:

Someone has to make the ultimate sacrifice.

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Listen if it hasn't by the time you are 30 it ain't gonna happen

Wizard powers become too strong, too intoxicating



Also since a second Gumpai has hit the tower, who is now in the front running to be the next one?!?!

NeneLOVE said:

I know this turned into a whole debate over a whole bunch of other unrelated philosophy bullshit but that has nothing to do with my point so I'll just reply to this.

It doesn't, but who else am I supposed to trust about the things actually happening in the company? Random people online? Most of which have proven they don't care or are actively spreading misinformation? Dramafags? Who have a monetary incentive and yet have also produced zero insider info?

My point is that nobody in the web knows what goes on inside Cover other than the talent, everyone else just makes their opinions based on a tiny fragment of what has been said by a talent or the company and a whole heap of speculation, assumptions and many times, bullshit they pulled out of their asses.

There's so much falseflagging and shitstirring these days that you can't ever know if the person you're chatting with is acting in good faith or not, so to me the only way to truly know anything is simply to take it from the source and be as critical as possible of all theories.

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I think that's a fair perspective. I would say though that vtubers have their own incentives that must be acknowledged when considering their comments. Their continued participation in the industry relies upon their compliance with the standards imposed upon them by said industry. They are under NDA's and contracts that place both hard restrictions on what they can and can't say, and also incentivize framing affairs certain ways.

Let me put it another way. You're a lawyer of some sort. You know the difference between a legal truth and a moral truth. You know that some people plead guilty to crimes they never committed because they were advised that the penalties for doing so would be less than those they'd suffer during the course of a prolonged trial to prove their innocence. You know other people who were guilty as sin, but got off because it was too difficult or ambiguous to prove their guilt to the standards required by law, or who escaped justice because some retard plucked the fruit of the poisonous tree.

Similar things happen in vtubing a lot, except the standards of Due Process are decided by an arbitrary group of unelected corporate entities who never allow public trials or disclosure. I severely dislike this status quo, but I also understand why it happens. It's not fun knowledge to have. It doesn't make my life any happier to know that truth is often sacrificed in the name of convenience or career sustainability. It sucks. It's depressing. I wish it wasn't so.

Something I want to clarify as a final note; I am not encouraging people to be less trusting of their oshi. I just don't want them to put so much trust in her that they forget all the other factors at play. In my experience, most of them want to be more open and transparent with their audiences, not less, but simply can't do so due to the environment they operate in. Anyway, that's enough gloom from me for a while. Thanks for giving me so much to work with.

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NeneLOVE said:

Yeah that's the thing.

When the talents say something bad, or their words are misconstrued or taken out of context to be negative (like with Lamy that one time) EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER is there with a microphone to broadcast the negativity as much as possible.

When the talents say something good, and tell people they, AT THAT TIME, aren't planning on going anywhere. They are suddenly big liars being manipulated by the corporate bureaucracy or the investors or what have you.

It's a very blatant double standard and I don't feel like getting berated for believing them in BOTH instances instead of just whichever fits my current narrative.

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I can empathize with this a lot.

The Proctor said:

I think that's a fair perspective. I would say though that vtubers have their own incentives that must be acknowledged when considering their comments. Their continued participation in the industry relies upon their compliance with the standards imposed upon them by said industry. They are under NDA's and contracts that place both hard restrictions on what they can and can't say, and also incentivize framing affairs certain ways.

Let me put it another way. You're a lawyer of some sort. You know the difference between a legal truth and a moral truth. You know that some people plead guilty to crimes they never committed because they were advised that the penalties for doing so would be less than those they'd suffer during the course of a prolonged trial to prove their innocence. You know other people who were guilty as sin, but got off because it was too difficult or ambiguous to prove their guilt to the standards required by law, or who escaped justice because some retard plucked the fruit of the poisonous tree.

Similar things happen in vtubing a lot, except the standards of Due Process are decided by an arbitrary group of unelected corporate entities who never allow public trials or disclosure. I severely dislike this status quo, but I also understand why it happens. It's not fun knowledge to have. It doesn't make my life any happier to know that truth is often sacrificed in the name of convenience or career sustainability. It sucks. It's depressing. I wish it wasn't so.

Something I want to clarify as a final note; I am not encouraging people to be less trusting of their oshi. I just don't want them to put so much trust in her that they forget all the other factors at play. In my experience, most of them want to be more open and transparent with their audiences, not less, but simply can't do so due to the environment they operate in. Anyway, that's enough gloom from me for a while. Thanks for giving me so much to work with.

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Well obviously, I don't believe it single-mindedly like some gospel of truth, but it's the only thing we really have to go on.
I prefer to base my speculation on that rather than whatever seanegroid #5768 claims he thinks is happening based on nothing at all.

VSoyBoy said:

Someone has to make the ultimate sacrifice.

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I fear for the day the desperation becomes so big that he fucks a troon and suddenly everything goes to shit.

The Elfin doc is funny when you get to the part when all the men she was sexting get together to confront her

Mint shitposted.

Piava said:

"never doing fansly or onlyfans just wanted to hear opinions of the community"
Yeah, sure, I'll be back laughing at her in a couple months when she announces her Fansly.

Edit: Also, archive your shit, Nïgger.
archive

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Her even testing the waters like this is already a red flag.

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La+ de Central Norte said:

When a Puerto Negro its about to quote half the forum to say nothing:
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Has anyone attempted to summarize Azeharaposts with the help of AI.

Phantasm said:

I've been using twitter a lot more lately (disgusting I know) and there's something I've been seeing that's got me wondering does being a Vtweeter actually work? Like has anyone actually managed to transfer their twitter followers to stream watchers succefully because I've seen several vtubers with almost or more than 100k followers on Twitter yet struggle to get more than 500 views on their vods

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Twitter freaks don't watch streams.

ZerroDefex said:

Her even testing the waters like this is already a red flag.

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Its the year 2025 "giving back" is so in with the vtubing community

agility_ said:

Has anyone attempted to summarize Azeharaposts with the help of AI.

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You really want Skynet to kill us all after being fed Proctor ramblings and Azehara posts at the same time?