Discord Degeneracy (And Degeneracy in general) Containment Zone

[Hff201]

I will take postion of defending the whore and say you guys haven't really watched one of her goon streams it's not just her getting off its also half a just chatting stream tbh it's alot like what she normally does but she's also masturbating.
(Also my god guys it was a pot brownie not fent Jesus lol)

Also it's not like she's stopped doing anything creative because of this she still works on music and hell just this week she was doing gardening streams outside.

This obviously the minority opinion here and I'm sure people are gonna give me shit for it but I think some of you guys are waaaaay too prudish and seem to think if you ever jork your soul suddenly goes hollow or some shit it's really not THAT big a deal.
But that's just my take you're free to disagree I'm not particularly interested in goon guarding for Bao beyond that

Porn is porn.

Here's the thing: I don't have a moral objection to (legally produced and distributed) pornography; men (and Pippa) are biologically programmed to "appreciate the female form" as the meat man would put it, and selling sex is the world's oldest profession so preaching against it would be a wasted effort at best.

My problem is that the supply of pornography is in excess, you can go on Pornhub and find women doing literally anything you want them to do to get you off - there is no creative merit to it. The trend of people in vtubing (which up until recently has mostly been a meritocracy since if everyone is a hot girl, no-one is) devaluing themselves to being just another whore in the crowd is disappointing because instead of aspiring high, vtubers are now incentivised to rush to the bottom for easy, low-value attention.

 

[Lazybug]

Porn is porn.

Here's the thing: I don't have a moral objection to (legally produced and distributed) pornography; men (and Pippa) are biologically programmed to "appreciate the female form" as the meat man would put it, and selling sex is the world's oldest profession so preaching against it would be a wasted effort at best.

My problem is that the supply of pornography is in excess, you can go on Pornhub and find women doing literally anything you want them to do to get you off - there is no creative merit to it. The trend of people in vtubing (which up until recently has mostly been a meritocracy since if everyone is a hot girl, no-one is) devaluing themselves to being just another whore in the crowd is disappointing because instead of aspiring high, vtubers are now incentivised to rush to the bottom for easy, low-value attention.

I can definitely understand that perspective but my take on it is that it's an issue that will sort itself out. Most E thots who's only redeeming quality is the shut they do don't really tend to keep and audience.
It's well known that very few only fans hoes actually make any money out of it <1% or something . Vtubers who do engage in this behavior but lack any other redeeming quality will fall by the way side and you'll probably never even hear of them.
The ones you DO hear about usually at least have SOMETHING else about them that actually grabs peoples attention girl like Project Melody didn't get to their viewer size just cause they goon people stuck around for her personality an content aside from that.

To sum it this is a self correcting issue you'll still have plenty of seiso vtubers who never touch this form of content creation and only a small amount who do will gain an audience because they bring actual entertainment value to the table.

 

[shipmate_F]

I just think it's a waste to spend your time gooning to thousands of strangers when she could be doing that in the privacy of her own time or just banging randos willingly to fulfill her desires.
Not forgetting that everything you post online as a public figure is there forever. I can see her crying on the mic because someone pulled ye olde classic "this you?" Something something consequences of my own actions.

In that regard, I think Menace is now stronger. She grew up to not care and instead focus on more alternative, creative gooning mixing content with porn, like the vibe karaoke and heavy acting ASMR, which is better in my book (still porn but now I can laugh at it).

 

[BlueSharkTV]

In that regard, I think Menace is now stronger. She grew up to not care and instead focus on more alternative, creative gooning mixing content with porn, like the vibe karaoke and heavy acting ASMR, which is better in my book (still porn but now I can laugh at it).

didn't she take Aphrodisiac for one of her goon streams? it's pretty much the same situation as Bao.

 

[shipmate_F]

didn't she take Aphrodisiac for one of her goon streams? it's pretty much the same situation as Bao.

Did she? She used to do drunk ASMR from time to time but I don't remember anything close to last Bao stuff. She was so zooted and horny she pulled the fuck machine by herself.

 

[Lazybug]

didn't she take Aphrodisiac for one of her goon streams? it's pretty much the same situation as Bao.

Nah aphrodisiacs are all bullshit only exist really in fiction it's like supplements nothing proven just unregulated fad medicine that only works in fiction. You might be thinking of her taking lactation aid though that she did do

 

[JusticeDog]

I just think it's a waste to spend your time gooning to thousands of strangers when she could be doing that in the privacy of her own time or just banging randos willingly to fulfill her desires.

Why do it for free in private when people will pay thousands to watch you do something you were going to do anyways?

 

[BlueSharkTV]

Did she? She used to do drunk ASMR from time to time but I don't remember anything close to last Bao stuff. She was so zooted and horny she pulled the fuck machine by herself.

Nah aphrodisiacs are all bullshit only exist really in fiction it's like supplements nothing proven just unregulated fad medicine that only works in fiction. You might be thinking of her taking lactation aid though that she did do

I didn't save the screenshot and the simp forum deleted the comment that posted it, but I think it was around feb14, either way they said she did a Squirting stream yesterday and going by their comments she may have flooded her room with piss.

 

[Lazybug]

I didn't save the screenshot and the simp forum deleted the comment that posted it, but I think it was around feb14, either way they said she did a Squirting stream yesterday and going by their comments she may have flooded her room with piss.

Ew that shits nasty I will never understand piss fags ugh....

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Moving away from urine...

Has anyone else noticed the phase girls have been interacting more with the less tame fan art they get lately? I mean I don't mind but it feels like there's been an uptick in that behavior.
(Which in turn has cause more people to draw it)

 

[shipmate_F]

Nah aphrodisiacs are all bullshit only exist really in fiction it's like supplements nothing proven just unregulated fad medicine that only works in fiction. You might be thinking of her taking lactation aid though that she did do

Suplements are real retard, same for aphrodisiacs, the issue is that US allows manufacturers to sell any shit without listing the ingredients.
For example snake blood sake (don't remember the species) is very common in Asia and it elevates your blood pressure while dilating it, thus enhancing sexual performance because you can pump out more - for both genders, our genitals are different but the circulatory system is pretty similar.

Why do it for free in private when people will pay thousands to watch you do something you were going to do anyways?

And that's what separates a slut from a whore, my point stands if what they say were to be sincere in the least.

I didn't save the screenshot and the simp forum deleted the comment that posted it, but I think it was around feb14, either way they said she did a Squirting stream yesterday and going by their comments she may have flooded her room with piss.

Well she was always a horny nuke ready to be dropped, she went from years of self-reproach, kin to catholics hypocrisy, to an online coomer. Give it one or two years and she should tone it down.
Still, I wonder what Mozu thinks of that, imagine the smell.

 

[Sky Shouter]

Wemi just replied to art of Ember breastfeeding a sadbee

Spoiler: REALLY NSFW

 

[bothyourhouses]

My problem is that the supply of pornography is in excess, you can go on Pornhub and find women doing literally anything you want them to do to get you off - there is no creative merit to it.

There is an unlimited supply of slop-quality porn, but there's surprisingly little that's creative with good production values. If Bao is doing content that's on a level with her regular streams then she would honestly be raising the bar and carving out a new niche (badum tss). But yeah if she's just doing standard camgirl streams then that's kind of a waste of her talents. (I'm not subscribed to her Fansly so I don't know which way she's going).

 

[Abomination]

I don't care all that much about whatever Bao does because it's easy to ignore her for the most part. But she is absolutely a whore, whether or not her or others consider that accurate or derogatory. Her giving a nice chat to the thousands of other guys watching and beating off to her playing with herself before, during, and after doesn't elevate my opinion on anything.

Personally, I don't care if a person watches porn or jerks off. I wouldn't consider myself a prude, I just don't want to know about it and would prefer people keep it to themselves. I would also prefer to keep that kind of stuff mostly seperate for the stuff I enjoy. Some lewd comments and jokes here and there don't bother me, but I don't care for sex and porn to be a part of everything that I enjoy, such as vtubing.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling for it to be eradicated from vtubing or anything. It exists, and there is a market for it. I just won't be watching someone who falls too far into that realm, and I may or may not make fun of them or at the very least, leave the appropriate reaction stickers on posts showing it.

 

[tragic amphibian]

I don't care all that much about whatever Bao does because it's easy to ignore her for the most part. But she is absolutely a whore, whether or not her or others consider that accurate or derogatory. Her giving a nice chat to the thousands of other guys watching and beating off to her playing with herself before, during, and after doesn't elevate my opinion on anything.

Personally, I don't care if a person watches porn or jerks off. I wouldn't consider myself a prude, I just don't want to know about it and would prefer people keep it to themselves. I would also prefer to keep that kind of stuff mostly seperate for the stuff I enjoy. Some lewd comments and jokes here and there don't bother me, but I don't care for sex and porn to be a part of everything that I enjoy, such as vtubing.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling for it to be eradicated from vtubing or anything. It exists, and there is a market for it. I just won't be watching someone who falls too far into that realm, and I may or may not make fun of them or at the very least, leave the appropriate reaction stickers on posts showing it.

It's like folks with weed. Sure, do it all you want, but let's also pass a law that legalizes beating you with a sock full of nickels if you start talking about it.

 

[bothyourhouses]

Personally, I don't care if a person watches porn or jerks off. I wouldn't consider myself a prude, I just don't want to know about it and would prefer people keep it to themselves. I would also prefer to keep that kind of stuff mostly seperate for the stuff I enjoy. Some lewd comments and jokes here and there don't bother me, but I don't care for sex and porn to be a part of everything that I enjoy, such as vtubing.

Huh. I'm not saying every vtuber should do it or anything, but in general I enjoy seeing overlap and crossovers between my different hobbies and interests.

 

[I Wanna Die]

I will take postion of defending the whore and say you guys haven't really watched one of her goon streams it's not just her getting off its also half a just chatting stream tbh it's alot like what she normally does but she's also masturbating.
(Also my god guys it was a pot brownie not fent Jesus lol)

Also it's not like she's stopped doing anything creative because of this she still works on music and hell just this week she was doing gardening streams outside.

This obviously the minority opinion here and I'm sure people are gonna give me shit for it but I think some of you guys are waaaaay too prudish and seem to think if you ever jork your soul suddenly goes hollow or some shit it's really not THAT big a deal.
But that's just my take you're free to disagree I'm not particularly interested in goon guarding for Bao beyond that

She hasn't released a new cover in 4 months when she used to be putting shit out all the time. That was around when she started making whore content. She quite literally stopped doing creative content that she was known for.

 

[Lazybug]

She hasn't released a new cover in 4 months when she used to be putting shit out all the time. That was around when she started making whore content. She quite literally stopped doing creative content that she was known for.

>She hasn't done it for awhile so she's never doing it again

Your so right her brain has turned to coom and she'll never sing again its over

 

[I Wanna Die]

>She hasn't done it for awhile so she's never doing it again

Your so right her brain has turned to coom and she'll never sing again its over

I'm sure she'll release music again, my point is that creative content has taken a backseat to her Fansly stuff.

I know you probably prefer that since whores are your bread and butter but personally I watch vtubers for entertainment not masturbation.

 

[Lazybug]

I'm sure she'll release music again, my point is that creative content has taken a backseat to her Fansly stuff.

I know you probably prefer that since whores are your bread and butter but personally I watch vtubers for entertainment not masturbation.

She literally didn't do any fansly shit for a month till 2 days ago people take brekas content slows and speeds up that happens with everyone.
Honestly I'd respect it more if people hust outright said "the act of cooming on stream has forever tainted her as person"
Rather then having to fall back on just dismissing everything i say cause obviously I'm just a pervert with no other depth
I'm not saying you have to like her just be honest about why you don't. Don't just go "muh metamorphosis" meme and moral fag as if she's completely gone as a person just cause she's horny

 

[I Wanna Die]

Honestly I'd respect it more if people hust outright said "the act of cooming on stream has forever tainted her as person"

There have been numerous people in this thread saying exactly that. I'm only elaborating on that cause I actually like her content and watched her.

Bao's not GFE, her having a boyfriend would bother me far less than being a whore. Having a sexual partner is normal, masturbating on the internet is not (or at least it shouldn't be)

Don't just go "muh metamorphosis" meme and moral fag as if she's completely gone as a person just cause she's horny

I can and I will.

You're equating being horny with being a whore which isn't 1:1, most here weren't bothered by Bao or any other vtuber being lewd.