General Vtuber Discussion (V1)

[thhrang]

Pippa may be my oshi and I like her a lot, but that isn't gonna stop me from shitting on JL7ten, Xynchro (Low Effort Clips) or whoever the hell whenever I please. If she dislikes that so be it, it's not like any of us are friends with her.

Fanbases policing themselves is necessary to maintain its' health. In this instance, we - as Pippa viewers - do it in the form of pointing and laughing at the retarded actions of a handful of her regular viewers, Xynchro and JL7ten being the prime examples.

If community members aren't called out when they do extremely dumb shit, and if there's zero negativity or backlash to said stupid actions from them, their behavior becomes normalized to the newbies, and the result would be people thinking that Xynchro's video preaching at her over interacting with E-Drama or JL7's old trick of literally spamming to try and steer stream topics when he personally doesn't like something is good and acceptable behavior. It isn't and shouldn't be acceptable behavior. Completely ignoring these things would be how communities crumble into pure and complete cancer, and as such, the calling out of retards has to happen for the good of everyone, even if the effect we specifically have might be negligible-- it still must be said. I assume she understands that. Hell, even /pcg/ turned on that insufferable Xynchro video, called it discordfag garbage, and archivefag apologized for ever having it featured on stream.

It's not like we come at this stuff from the perspective of being outsiders or newfags. A decent chunk of us, or at least myself, have been here and watching since right near debut (in my case, 5 days after). It's not an attack on her community, it's members of her community, who regularly watch streams and have participated in discussion for a long time, calling out bad behavior and lolcow-tier shitters when we see it. Simple as.

 

[Ｍｕｒｒａｙしないで]

I don't know, mate, i'm not even american. Is everyone you ever see is american to you? Also because I live in the place that sunny all the time, of course I think that every coastal area = hot and sunny place

But I guess because I'm not an "american", then I'm not even know what that means, in that case, my fucking bad.

I assumed you were American like most of the people on this board, yes. My bad. In retrospect are you from ID? I can see how you can think the beach is always a hot place in that case. In America they are usually cold, windy, wet places, unless you're in Florida or Texas or something (and there is not currently a hurricane).

Hell, even /pcg/ turned on that insufferable Xynchro video, called it discordfag garbage, and archivefag apologized for ever having it featured on stream.

I was on vacation and not able to see it in real time, but I saw it later and I don't really get where all the hate comes from. Sure, it could have been shorter, but I don't think it's fair to say it was a Xynchro vanity project when it's mostly comprised of Pippa clips and interviews with other people. His bits were just there for framing. It was fine for what it was.

 

[Faceless Waifu]

In retrospect are you from ID? I can see how you can think the beach is always a hot place in that case.

Yeah. Snow is like, a magic that never existed here. All we got is either sunny or rainy.

 

[thhrang]

I was on vacation and not able to see it in real time, but I saw it later and I don't really get where all the hate comes from. Sure, it could have been shorter, but I don't think it's fair to say it was a Xynchro vanity project when it's mostly comprised of Pippa clips and interviews with other people. His bits were just there for framing. It was fine for what it was.

He tried to literally scold her for interacting with the dramasphere of the Internet in the middle of what was supposed to be a 200k celebration video, called her actions a mistake, and got insanely pissed on Discord when Pippa pushed back on his assertions. If you can't see where the hate comes from, I can't help you.

 

[Sankisei]

Pippa look a Watame fanart

 

[naganon]

Fanbases policing themselves is necessary to maintain its' health. In this instance, we - as Pippa viewers - do it in the form of pointing and laughing at the retarded actions of a handful of her regular viewers, Xynchro and JL7ten being the prime examples.

That assumes they come here to see what is said about them and that they care about what we post at all. Doing it on /pcg/ would probably be more effective since at least you can be reasonably sure they go there.

 

[hololive ruined /jp/]

I was on vacation and not able to see it in real time, but I saw it later and I don't really get where all the hate comes from. Sure, it could have been shorter, but I don't think it's fair to say it was a Xynchro vanity project when it's mostly comprised of Pippa clips and interviews with other people. His bits were just there for framing. It was fine for what it was.

Shitting on Pippa's old time schtick is pretty gay. She doesn't have to be the lolcow vtuber like Jewsh but she loves Internet drama.

 

[colossamite]

I assumed you were American like most of the people on this board, yes. My bad. In retrospect are you from ID? I can see how you can think the beach is always a hot place in that case. In America they are usually cold, windy, wet places, unless you're in Florida or Texas or something (and there is not currently a hurricane).

i've only ever been to two beaches as of this writing, one in downtown chicago and the one in st. joseph, michigan, chicago was cold and windy (obviously) but st. joseph was great, perfect temperature, not too crowded, and there was a bomb-ass seafood restaurant nearby

 

[Chiato Macchiato]

I don't know if this goes here, but it's related to Korekore, a YouTuber involved in some Rushia's dramas. According to the tweet it seems like he was dating a girl, had unprotected sex with her, the girl talked to her friend about it, and fount out he was having sex with her too. They tried to talk to him, he threatened them, and the girls ended up committing suicide. The girls were 16 and 18, he seems to be 22.

Be aware, one of the comments has the video of the girls trowing themselves of a building.

Spoiler: Tweet

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Archive

Edit: to clarify, this is related to Korekore because it seems that he was the one who reported what happened, the person who committed the act seems to be a cosplayer. Neither English nor Japanese are my thing (￣ヘ￣)

 

[sbm]

Hololive Collab is coming back to World of Warships. Was there a previous one? Anyhow I dun wanna play that damn game again, Russian bias bs..

World of Warships

Official website of the award-winning free-to-play online game World of Warships. Action stations!

worldofwarships.eu

The first collab never happened likely due to Russia's little adventure last year, but voice lines were leaked through data mining. Kiara, Botan, Ame, and Moona I guess? I presume they're reusing that. Also they got Kiara to voice in German so this is the closest she'll ever get to WW2 things. /k/fp in heaven

e: oh, there was a Fubuki and Marine collab in 2020. Completely forgot about that

 

[Godzilla1984]

Pippa's fanbase is Balkanized to hell and back between chat, 4chins, farms, here, several discord servers, reddit, groupchats, and I wouldn't be surprised if the mold reanimated the corpse of myspace at this point.
This is a good thing, like it or not, Rabbit.
The commie you interviewed ain't going to stop World War Three writing shitty video games, and neither are you by trying to play peacekeeper on the internet to a bunch of retarded monkeys.

 

[The Peanut Gallery]

Sawa's getting a kick out of the people who think her voice recordings were made by someone else

Archive

Spoiler: Examples

 

[Saturnus]

>Watch Kiki playing Dota
>Support(?) Invoker
>she tornados a man who was 100% dead and saved him as I type this.
Peak Invoker gameplay, it's really like I'm playing the game again.

 

[Mehk]

Russian kosher mob boss is playing Mafia 3.

 

[Audi Vide Tace]

I don't know if this goes here, but it's related to Korekore, a YouTuber involved in some Rushia's dramas. According to the tweet it seems like he was dating a girl, had unprotected sex with her, the girl talked to her friend about it, and fount out he was having sex with her too. They tried to talk to him, he threatened them, and the girls ended up committing suicide. The girls were 16 and 18, he seems to be 22.

Be aware, one of the comments has the video of the girls trowing themselves of a building.

Spoiler: Tweet

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Archive

A suicide podcast?

Edit:

Found an article related.

 

[kestraline]

I've already posted my daily Rie picture on Superduper's profile and I'm currently watching Rie's livestream.

@superduper and TVA have somehow memed me into becoming a himebito, fuck.

So, who will be the resident Lia Liker to go with this Himebito?

 

[Sankisei]

774 Vtuber Fuma Watto added to the body count

 

[SoundWave Superior]

Logged in just to be like ohh cool Fuana's dragon sister looks pretty cool really like the design then see ohh hey 2 girls killed themselves cause of the jp keem honestly think vtubers and vtuber loosely related news is the best never sure just where it's going. Like best murder mystery is it jealousy is it a stalker or someone simply not saying a word, hell could be someone sounding black love this hobby truly despite burnout

New Sony wave
From the Vee branch it's Dev-E

I don't know if this goes here, but it's related to Korekore, a YouTuber involved in some Rushia's dramas. According to the tweet it seems like he was dating a girl, had unprotected sex with her, the girl talked to her friend about it, and fount out he was having sex with her too. They tried to talk to him, he threatened them, and the girls ended up committing suicide. The girls were 16 and 18, he seems to be 22.

 

[kestraline]

Kick is a new streaming site which, according to rumor, was made by some online casino company after Twitch tightened up rules on streamers gambling on stream. It kind of has that gross Twitch-ish alt-platform streaming site look that Cozy, Trovo, and so on all have so it's easy to imagine it eventually having the same level of relevance to everyone who isn't a federal asset, but it seems to be getting a lot of attention recently nonetheless. Pippa tried streaming on it a few weeks ago and gave up on it after a few minutes due to technical issues. I decided to give it a try myself, scheduling a stream on it for Tuesday, but tonight I did a quick guerrilla stream there just to make sure it would work. And… it worked just fine for me. Not sure what the rabbit's problem was.

In terms of vtubers, there is a separate "V-Tubers" category, but I'm not sure if that means that vtubers can't stream in other categories - it doesn't seem to be documented anywhere if so. I've never seen a 3view or more vtuber there though, and just as with Twitch you'll find the cross-tubers, the mutes, and so on. The most talented one I've seen so far is CurrentPulse, a mousegirl PNGtuber who had good voice and banter but poor audio balancing (and also she was playing Genshin).

The streaming back end is functional and should be familiar if you've used Twitch. One annoyance is that the chat pane on the back end is in a weird place - for my window layout, anyway - and can't be popped out or moved, so I wasn't able to position it in a familiar place on the edge of my vision so I could notice when messages came in. I think it's possible to pop it out from your actual stream page but ideally you could just keep it on your stream management page like you can on Twitch. Growing pains I guess.

The big way that Kick is appealing to people already using Twitch is by offering a 95% cut of subscriptions, rather than Twitch's 50%. That means if you have 100 subscribers at the $5 tier, you're taking home $475 a month rather than $250. That can definitely add up the more subscriptions you have. We'll see if that's sustainable for them. Sure, you're probably going to get fewer net subscribers there than Twitch due to pure numbers, but there's no harm in using both and gently nudging people towards subbing on Kick rather than Twitch - certainly if the people I'm subbed to on Twitch were to open a profile on Kick, I'd gladly move my subs over and be happy they're getting more of my money (and that dweeb Bezos is getting less). Currently there's no equivalents of Twitch's bits so there's no way for your subbers to double-dip and throw more money at you without going through a third-party service like StreamElements, but I assume they've got something like that planned as we speak.

I think it's worth keeping an eye on. It would be nice if a 3+view came over and helped build up the scene there - or maybe Pippa could give it another try. Certainly I think people playing really boring-looking online slot machines (and getting 4k+ CCV, WTF) are better company than the political spazzes and conspiracy theorists (but not in the fun way) on other "alt-platform" video sites.

Spoiler: Self-promotion

Here's my Kick channel. I'll be doing Hotline Miami 2 on Tuesday evening at 6:00 PM PT, 9:00 PM ET. Will probably do one or two more guerrillas there throughout the week if it goes well.

I did link to another one recently who used it for a stream but they haven't gone back and just seem to be sticking to Twitch every few days or so.

You are right that Pippa should try it again and see how it goes for her. Kick seems promising but still very early stages, no PayPal support is likely going to be a deal breaker though. If you want to subscribe you have to give them your card information, this seems to be due to the gambling stuff on that platform unfortunately. Would be a nice idea to have a vtuber corpo focus on Kick but its limitations would not go down so well.

 

[Aka Split]

A suicide podcast?

Edit:

Found an article related.

Just to highlight this since the initial post with the tweets is not clear; it seemingly had nothing to do with korekore (the girls went to him, he told them to stay away from the guy, they did not listen and went back to the guy). It's about some Genshin cosplayer, not korekore.