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(I was gonna post this in the main thread yesterday but i had a moment of doubt about what kind of point i was making and this thread conveniently popped up so here it goes)

I was thinking about the yuko thing while sleep-deprived, so pardon me if im being autistic since my brain is working on fumes rn.
This will sound prudish (it probably is) but i feel like a lot of chuubas are becoming more and more degenerate to try to one-up one another.

I am not going to claim that is an objectively bad thing; vtubing has always benefited from parasocialism and it's mainly aimed at filthy weebs who like that sort of thing. I also see that a lot of it is played off as ironic or teasing or pandering to an audience that prefers that content and that is totally fine in itself.

My concern is that a lot of very fucked in the head people do not understand irony, or they don't understand that it's just an act. I know this is a slippery-slope kind of thing but it nags at the critical part of my brain. It's kinda like 4chud, the discourse there has always been ironically autistic and edgy, but that shit only attracted people who didn't get the joke and actually believe all of the shitposting.

I won't blame the fans though, there's always gonna be autistic fuckwits with weird proclivities who try to infest anything they see, the problem here is our oshis my guys, pandering to these people is the problem, even if ironic it only brings in more degeneracy to this community and chuubas should really start to check their own retarded fans, even if it makes them mad.

Tl;Dr :youroshiisawhore:
It's not just that they're trying to one-up each other, it's that if their primary draw is the coomer content they have to constantly one-up themselves to keep their audiences from losing interest. It mirrors the real-life porn industry where the girls who start off doing vanilla shit always, without fail, end up doing more extreme shit on camera because they've exhausted all the normal "plug entering socket" material but still need to make content to sell.

With regards to parasocialism I think the "blame" for lack of a better word ultimately comes down to how deep the particular streamer leans into it. Obviously if they're consistently doing the GFE schtick it's going to bring in the more deranged fans and if they're taking the benefits of having them around (views and cash) they're also going to have to take the drawbacks.

The problem is that some people are so out-of-touch with reality they literally see GFE-bait where it doesn't exist. I saw a thread on /vt/ a while ago where someone was trying to argue that Lisa playfully saying hello to her fans at the start of streams was exploitative, when she's literally just being friendly and welcoming. If she's saying "hi, I hope you've had a nice day!" and some autist sees that as flirting and develops a crush on her I don't think that's her fault at all.
 

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I stole this from the seanigs known as vtuber memes but its a discord post so it counts
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Part of me wants ot listen to this. Not because i want to get off to it, more like im curious how accurate the voices are and I want to laugh at how cringe it is that someone took time to make this.
 

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(...) people do not understand irony, or they don't understand that it's just an act. (...) It's kinda like 4chud, the discourse there has always been ironically autistic and edgy, but that shit only attracted people who didn't get the joke and actually believe all of the shitposting.

Previously, the gullible were paraded around as fools for newcomers to learn from.
Now they are just viewed as hapless victims, whose walled gardens have failed to shield them from any lies more harmful than crappy "lifehacks" from the likes of 5 minute crafts.
 

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Posting 'Honestly Kirsche's fish blowjob audio legit got me hard irl. Sakana's tiny Californian balls must be churning with cum ready for that whore mouth' is degeneracy.
Isn't Fishman Canadian?

So, if I get it right, this is the thread to talk about cringe, creepy and overly lewd acts commited by vwhores and/or their coomer fans? Like an incubator for potential lolcows?
 

DanchousLoyalHamu

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Speaking of the whole Idol Discord thing.

Fuyo made a tweet about it lol.
 

hololive ruined /jp/

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The problem is that some people are so out-of-touch with reality they literally see GFE-bait where it doesn't exist. I saw a thread on /vt/ a while ago where someone was trying to argue that Lisa playfully saying hello to her fans at the start of streams was exploitative, when she's literally just being friendly and welcoming. If she's saying "hi, I hope you've had a nice day!" and some autist sees that as flirting and develops a crush on her I don't think that's her fault at all.
When tsunderia was still around lisa was asking twitter "what are you doing rn" and "what are your plans for today".







A little more than pleasantries and greetings. But enough for lonely guys to see it as gfe.
 

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I love how my 5 AM typo has turned into an impromptu debate over which one of Sakana's potential nationalities is the most humiliating.
 

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I love how my 5 AM typo has turned into an impromptu debate over which one of Sakana's potential nationalities is the most humiliating.
 

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Speaking of the whole Idol Discord thing.

Fuyo made a tweet about it lol.

I know she's trying to soften the blow with a joke so people don't get mad at her, but you really need to smack these people in the back of the head, this kind of "haha honey that's a bit weird..." posts don't work, people see them as a joke and even an incentive to keep going.

This thread needs to be renamed to "ASYLUM REPENTANCE CHAMBER", we are gonna beat the coomer faggotry out of any inmates suspected of carrying it just like the olden times with nail pullers and hot metal rods
 

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I love how my 5 AM typo has turned into an impromptu debate over which one of Sakana's potential nationalities is the most humiliating.
Living in California out of one's own free will is the biggest act of degeneracy out of anything mentioned in this thread so far.
 

hololive ruined /jp/

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Living in California out of one's own free will is the biggest act of degeneracy out of anything mentioned in this thread so far.
yeah but if you get sick in canada they'll try to push you into maid.
 

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It's not just that they're trying to one-up each other, it's that if their primary draw is the coomer content they have to constantly one-up themselves to keep their audiences from losing interest. It mirrors the real-life porn industry where the girls who start off doing vanilla shit always, without fail, end up doing more extreme shit on camera because they've exhausted all the normal "plug entering socket" material but still need to make content to sell.
They kinda are trying to one up each other and it's not because coomer content it's their primary type of content, it's because they think it's the only type of content that gets views, the only comparison i can make is with ASMRtists.
i don't know who exactly started the race for the crown on the asmr circles, but there is a lot of competition going on for "who can outwhore the rest", there used to be a top 3 on the japanese (maybe overall) asmr scene, rica (yozora mel's rm) macoto asmr and canan (shirogane noel's rm) and it was the uncontested top 3 for a long time, then someone started getting more spicy with their content, and the rest had to keep up to not lose their fans (and the money that comes with them), and when rica's grandpa died she stopped making spicy asmr and one of the top 3 spots opened up, allowing for more degenerate content, they started with more revealing clothes, then more degen RP scenarios, then they started incorporating sex toys on their content, at this point most people here know what canan is doing and i am pretty sure she is the uncontested queen for degen asmr, thing is there are way more extreme ASMRtists out there, you have masquerade and emoecchi for companies, for individuals you have pikon, tenshi nano (used to be a pornstar), pomeko, rizuna (i will consider her top 3), and this last girls and companies i mentioned are straight up porn (solo sex toy insertions and lesbian collabs on masquerade).
So what is similar to the ASMRtist lore? gura leaving for some time, when she left it opened a slot on the top vtubers a lot of people watch (at least on the EN side) you could see the difference in other girl's numbers (mainly fauna) because her timeslot opened up and it also allowed for yuko to try and take over (even if it was only money and not views/subs) and we already know what type of content yuko makes, so now more girls will get the idea of degen=success on vtubing, so we may see more AVtubers on the EN vtubing side (girls masturbating on youtube a la emoecchi) for a quick buck and views.
 

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I thought this might be worth posting in here but the last part of Aviel's post the other day was that he was going to revamp the official Idol discord.
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Seems like he's gotten started because Rin, Fuyo, Juna, Pochi and Riro all joined the discord earlier today.
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Easy to tell it's actually them because they have their own status in there.
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Yuko hasn't joined as of yet but she'll probably join soon. Also none of them have said anything so far. I'm not sure where this is going to go but if they start doing discord events or something, I can't imagine it going too well.

Speaking of the whole Idol Discord thing.

Fuyo made a tweet about it lol.

I know she's trying to soften the blow with a joke so people don't get mad at her, but you really need to smack these people in the back of the head, this kind of "haha honey that's a bit weird..." posts don't work, people see them as a joke and even an incentive to keep going.

This thread needs to be renamed to "ASYLUM REPENTANCE CHAMBER", we are gonna beat the coomer faggotry out of any inmates suspected of carrying it just like the olden times with nail pullers and hot metal rods
To clear this up a bit, "reproducing" is a meme in Fuyo's chat that just means spamming the kiss emoji. It became a thing after her Valentine's Day stream where she paired her viewers together, then made collage babies with their avatars or something. When she was tweeting this, it was because she looked in the official discord and they were spamming the kiss emoji when they found out she joined.
 

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I'm apprehensive to point fingers but I think Riifu Evergreen might be SoeASMR, maybe better known as Dude That's Lewd.

Simply because they're both Scottish and do ASMR.

Sound kinda similar too.

Theres a thread on /vt/ about their debut they might have found something already about the girls

Apologies, I don't check /vt/.


She did collab with Fauna pre-holo, if its actually her it would be one hell of a coincidence lmfao


DTL collabs with anything that moves from what I understand. She's collabed with FallenShadow too.

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Scottish. ASMR. Licks Mic. It all checks out.


Interesting. I wonder why a 180k sub channel would want to join a corpo as a Vtuber unless she stated in her contract that she could keep producing content for her ASMR channel.

Great question, I knew DTL was Soe but didn't know she had resumed activities as Soe until just now when I saw the Riifu debut and had my suspicions and checked up on things, if i had to hazard a guess, as DTL she probably thinks she's plateau'd, and sadly while DTL is well enough known might not be a great portfolio to use when applying to corpos.
 
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I'm apprehensive to point fingers but I think Riifu Evergreen might be SoeASMR, maybe better known as Dude That's Lewd.

Simply because they're both Scottish and do ASMR.

Sound kinda similar too.

She did collab with Fauna pre-holo, if its actually her it would be one hell of a coincidence lmfao
 

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Degeneracy is a democracy, By not allowing us to sperg our based and real ideas you are not only disallowing the freedom of thought but also stopping the freedom of thought and the human spirit, the only solution to deal with degeneracy is to freely allow it to happen
I'd joke that she's ovulating but I wouldn't want some cookie answer me with her actual schedule
I wish someone would make a new list of when the members ovulate, I think my old list isn’t as accurate as I had hoped, Sometimes on stream they would sound like they’re ovulating but according to my list they shouldn’t be
 
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